The Hypostatic Union- the 2 Natures in Christ

[praise_yeshua]

"Capable of sinning" simply means free will.
You are saying Jesus had no free will.

Nope. Not at all. It is purely Good will of Divinity that establishes the Impeccability of Jesus Christ.

God can't lie. I don't care if you say that God can lie because He has freewill. I believe the Scriptures more than your theological position.

 

[praise_yeshua]

One pastor?????? Only one?

I have news for you.

Its you who keep repeating nonsense.........

Okay. I'll restate.

Just repeating nonsense you've heard from your pastors.

 

[GeneZ]

Psa 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

David had the gift of an OT prophet. Prophets were given an anointing from the Holy Spirit that could be removed.

The Holy Spirit never took a permanent indwelling of any body of any believer until the Atonement of the Cross.

James 4:5 in the Greek plainly states the Holy Spirit came into our hearts as a Permanent Indweller.

That is why we have been told....



Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have,
because God has said,

“Never will I leave you;
never will I forsake you.”

Hebrews 13:5

 

[praise_yeshua]

David had the gift of an OT prophet. Prophets were given an anointing from the Holy Spirit that could be removed.

Prove it. You're making a claim that is contrary to Psalm 131. Which is why you left it off your reply.

Here. Let it speak again to you.

Psa 139:7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?

 

[GeneZ]

Okay. I'll restate.

Just repeating nonsense you've heard from your pastors.

My pastors?

I have been in different churches....

There are many out there who actually can think with the Word of God, at least on the level that you find too difficult.

I even fellowshipped a Catholic Priest, who when shown, was able to think with the Word of God....

................ where does that leave you?

 

[GeneZ]

Prove it. You're making a claim that is contrary to Psalm 131. Which is why you left it off your reply.

Here. Let it speak again to you.

Psa 139:7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?

Total disconnect!

The God the Holy Spirit is omnipresent!

He is "everywhere."

 

[praise_yeshua]

My pastors?

I have been in different churches....

There are many out there who actually can think with the Word of God, at least on the level that you find too difficult.

I even fellowshipped a Catholic Priest, who when shown, was able to think with the Word of God....

................ where does that leave you?

As always, you're appealing to yourself as the standard. You're not.

 

[GeneZ]

As always, you're appealing to yourself as the standard. You're not.

You are not capable of any correction.
You find it insulting to be shown to be wrong and what is correct.

"Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate you; reprove a wise man, and he will love you."

Proverbs 9:8​

Hate much?

 

[praise_yeshua]

Total disconnect!

The God the Holy Spirit is omnipresent!

He is "everywhere."

Total disconnect!

The God the Holy Spirit is omnipresent!

He is "everywhere."

Total disconnect. Is God present in hell suffering with the damned?

Oh the silliness of men.....

Psa 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Psa 139:9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
Psa 139:10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.

These words are clearly about possession. Comfort. Fellowship. You know.... all the things that the Holy Spirit brings to God's own.

The Holy Spirit was referenced as being gifted o the disciples because the Spirit of God was confined in this life to Jesus Christ during His earthly ministry after He was baptized.

Jesus told His disciples while He was praying to the Father that HE.... had keep them while were with Him. He also stated that HE had forgiven then at that they were clean through the word He has spoken to them.

You might want to stop living in another man's fantasy.

 

[Johann]

As always, you're appealing to yourself as the standard. You're not.

He's not appealing to his himself as his "own standard"

 

[praise_yeshua]

You are not capable of any correction.
You find it insulting to be shown to be wrong and what is correct.

"Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate you; reprove a wise man, and he will love you."

Proverbs 9:8​

Hate much?

I don't hate you. I feel sorry for you. I do. You know how many men I've meet like you throughout the years? I bet if I we were to have this conversation "face to face", you'd try to start a physical fight. I have no doubt that you'd threaten me. No doubt at all.

 

[praise_yeshua]

He's not appealing to his himself as his "own standard"

So you're not ignoring me anymore? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not.

His words speak for themselves..... Here... read them again.

I even fellowshipped a Catholic Priest, who when shown, was able to think with the Word of God....

................ where does that leave you?

 

[charismaticlady]

If Jesus is fully God then He would be the same as the Holy Spirit and the Father who are Fully God lacking nothing.

Right. All the "glories" were restored to Him. John 17

 

[101G]

Okay. I understand you better. Thanks. I had concerns..

in the Name of the Lord Jesus, you're welcome, and thanks for the question.

here are multiple definitions of "natural".

Definition... .a person regarded as having an innate gift or talent for a particular task or activity.

To be clear, I'm not referencing Christ as a "Natural" Person. However, He has innate characteristics. Intrinsic is an appeal to "things".

Innate is a broader appeal relative to Person.

true but listen to the definition again, intrinsic: "belonging naturally; essential:" now scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."

dose not one's ... "OWN ARM" ..... belong to that ONE PERSON .... Naturally? yes. that NATURE of God's OWN ARM is an EQUALLY SHARED "belonging ARM of God. again, this is why he said in FLESH.... "My Father", and in Spirit, "My Son". belonging is an interest of belonging. this is too easy.

101G.

 

[GeneZ]

I don't hate you. I feel sorry for you. I do. You know how many men I've meet like you throughout the years? I bet if I we were to have this conversation "face to face", you'd try to start a physical fight. I have no doubt that you'd threaten me. No doubt at all.

You don't hate me.
Your hatred is self hatred...... That the Lord must heal.

 

[GeneZ]

So you're not ignoring me anymore? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not.

His words speak for themselves..... Here... read them again.

I even fellowshipped a Catholic Priest, who when shown, was able to think with the Word of God....

................ where does that leave you?

Yes.... apparently you do not know how many Catholic priests treat the Word of God in relation to what the Vatican declares official?

Try telling a Catholic, who is strongly so inclined, that Mary is not the mother of God.

And, try showing "Father Macallan" the following verse and get his input...

Matthew 23:9

"And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. "​

I have nothing against Catholics.
My childhood friends were almost all Catholic.
I am just sticking with the Word of God.....

 

[GeneZ]

If Jesus is fully God then He would be the same as the Holy Spirit and the Father who are Fully God lacking nothing.

Then why did Jesus receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit right before John the Baptist's eyes?

If he was functioning as God? And, not a man? Why did he need God the Spirit to lead him into the wilderness to be tempted?

"Then Jesus was led up into the wilderness by the Spirit to be tempted by the devil." Matthew 4:1​

And, look at all the translations that agree and translate it .... "to be tempted."

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https://biblehub.com/matthew/4-1.htm​

grace and peace .............

 

[synergy]

Yes.... apparently you do not know how many Catholic priests treat the Word of God in relation to what the Vatican declares official?

Try telling a Catholic, who is strongly so inclined, that Mary is not the mother of God.

I am not Catholic and I would agree that Biblically Mary is the mother of God.

Who exactly is the Person that Mary gave birth to? Was he a purely human, a human/Divine dual person schizophrenic, or a purely God Person, the Uncreated Word of God? The answer is obvious to whoever is Christian. Hence, the name Theotokos, mother of God.

Let's see if the word of God continues to make you mute.

 

[GeneZ]

Total disconnect. Is God present in hell suffering with the damned?

The dammed are separated from God...

How could He experience separation from Himself?

 

[praise_yeshua]

The dammed are separated from God...

How could He experience separation from Himself?

This is crazy.... You're the one that referenced Psalm 131 as God being EVERYWHERE. Omnipresent.... YOU said.