The Hypostatic Union- the 2 Natures in Christ

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in Mary's womb.

Good, you said, "He always was, is and will be God" and you said, "God is Immutable"which means, "unchanging over time or unable to be changed". so if he is God by Nature, and was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') would that not change his nature? no. now, so, how can God, (a spirit, per John 4:24a), be in Mary's womb when spirits are not born, but Given. supportive scripture, #1. Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:" and one more, #2. Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

so which was in Mary's womb, a Child that was BORN, or the spirit that is given after birth?

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Yes. The Father is the "Arche" of the Trinity. Christ is the Eternal Divine Son of God and the Holy Spirit eternally proceedes from the Father

if true, "Who made all things", the one whom you calls the Father, the Son? scripture, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." this is the Word, whom you call son. now this, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

is this the same one ... PERSON ...... in both scriptures or are they two separate persons?

your answer please.

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'God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, '
(2 Cor. 5:19a)

 

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'God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, '
(2 Cor. 5:19a)

God? which one of your Gods was in Christ? the One whom you call the Father or the Holy Ghost? which one

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God? which one of your Gods was in Christ? the One whom you call the Father or the Holy Ghost? which one

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'God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, '
(2 Cor. 5:19a)

I simply believe what is written above, @101G.

 

[101G]

'God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, '
(2 Cor. 5:19a)

I simply believe what is written above, @101G.

(smile), I'm not trying to be hard on you complete, just bringing out a point. listen, is not Jesus God? yes, now as for three person, listen. Matthew 1:19 "Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily." Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost." QUESTION, "is not the conceiver of a child is called the “FATHER” of the Child?". see my point now.

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if true, "Who made all things", the one whom you calls the Father, the Son? scripture, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." this is the Word, whom you call son. now this, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

is this the same one ... PERSON ...... in both scriptures or are they two separate persons?

your answer please.

101G.

Jesus and the Holy Spirit are not "things". They are not created things like Angels, Planets, and Man. They are Divine with 100% Uncreated God Nature. So it's back to the drawing board for you.

 

[101G]

Jesus and the Holy Spirit are not "things". They are not created things like Angels, Planets, and Man. They are Divine with 100% Uncreated God Nature. So it's back to the drawing board for you.

synergy said:
Yes. The Father is the "Arche" of the Trinity. Christ is the Eternal Divine Son of God and the Holy Spirit eternally proceedes from the Father
101G Said: if true, "Who made all things", the one whom you calls the Father, the Son? scripture, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." this is the Word, whom you call son. now this, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

is this the same one ... PERSON ...... in both scriptures or are they two separate persons?

your answer please.


So who said anything about the Holy Spirit being a thing as well as the Lord Jesus? so that excuse/tactic want work here. so please answer my Question. "Who made all THINGS?" was it A. the LORD, whom you call the Father, or B. the Son who U call the Lord.

once again, your answer please.

101G.

 

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synergy said:
Yes. The Father is the "Arche" of the Trinity. Christ is the Eternal Divine Son of God and the Holy Spirit eternally proceedes from the Father
101G Said: if true, "Who made all things", the one whom you calls the Father, the Son? scripture, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." this is the Word, whom you call son. now this, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

is this the same one ... PERSON ...... in both scriptures or are they two separate persons?

your answer please.


So who said anything about the Holy Spirit being a thing as well as the Lord Jesus? so that excuse/tactic want work here. so please answer my Question. "Who made all THINGS?" was it A. the LORD, whom you call the Father, or B. the Son who U call the Lord.

once again, your answer please.

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The simple answer is God did. Who is God? The 3 Persons of the Trinity is God. They are always together eternally, doing everything together always. It's not that one day one Person of the Trinity told the other two to sit back while he goes off to create an entire universe by himself. Look up the word Perichoresis. It might give you a glimpse into the eternal interactions between the Persons of the Trinity.

 

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The simple answer is God did. Who is God? The 3 Persons of the Trinity is God. They are always together eternally, doing everything together always. It's not that one day one Person of the Trinity told the other two to sit back while he goes off to create an entire universe by himself. Look up the word Perichoresis. It might give you a glimpse into the eternal interactions between the Persons of the Trinity.

U didn't answer the question, for the Last time, "WHO MADE ALL THINGS?", per John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24. is this the SAME one Person, YES or NO?

your answer please.

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[civic]

U didn't answer the question, for the Last time, "WHO MADE ALL THINGS?", per John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24. is this the SAME one Person, YES or NO?

your answer please.

101G.

False Dichotomy Fallacy Alert.

God made all things period, end of Discussion. Scripture attributes Creation to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The One God who is Tri-Personal, a Tri-Unity hence the Trinity. Cherry picking verses doesn't change the facts its nothing but eisegesis.

hope this helps !!!

 

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U didn't answer the question, for the Last time, "WHO MADE ALL THINGS?", per John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24. is this the SAME one Person, YES or NO?

your answer please.

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(Genesis 1:1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Read Genesis 1:1. The answer is God. Who is God? The 3 Persons of the Trinity is God. They are always together eternally, doing everything together always. It's not that one day one Person of the Trinity told the other two to sit back while he goes off to create an entire universe by himself. Look up the word Perichoresis. It might give you a glimpse into the eternal interactions between the Persons of the Trinity.

 

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False Dichotomy Fallacy Alert.

God made all things period, end of Discussion. Scripture attributes Creation to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The One God who is Tri-Personal, a Tri-Unity hence the Trinity. Cherry picking verses doesn't change the facts its nothing but eisegesis.

hope this helps !!!

(Genesis 1:1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Read Genesis 1:1. The answer is God. Who is God? The 3 Persons of the Trinity is God. They are always together eternally, doing everything together always. It's not that one day one Person of the Trinity told the other two to sit back while he goes off to create an entire universe by himself. Look up the word Perichoresis. It might give you a glimpse into the eternal interactions between the Persons of the Trinity.

@synergy, and civic, Glad you said that, "God" made all thing.
in Isaiah 44:24 God is the "LORD", he was alone, and alone means, "having no one else present" and by having no one else present, means you made up , "They are always together eternally". because if they are omni-present ...... they, they , they would have been present. LOL, LOL, LOL, so, don't Make it up ... LOOK IT UP.

now as for God, in Isaiah 44:24, it states the "LORD" made all things, so is the "LORD" all caps, is the same person in John 1:3 the Son, the Word who then IS ... "LORD", all caps. YES or NO?

either one of you can answer.... (smile)...

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[civic]

@synergy, and civic, Glad you said that, "God" made all thing.
in Isaiah 44:24 God is the "LORD", he was alone, and alone means, "having no one else present" and by having no one else present, means you made up , "They are always together eternally". because if they are omni-present ...... they, they , they would have been present. LOL, LOL, LOL, so, don't Make it up ... LOOK IT UP.

now as for God, in Isaiah 44:24, it states the "LORD" made all things, so is the "LORD" all caps, is the same person in John 1:3 the Son, the Word who then IS ... "LORD", all caps. YES or NO?

either one of you can answer.... (smile)...

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God said :

LET US make man in OUR IMAGE after OUR likeness.

God is PLURAL follow the PLURAL pronouns

 

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God said :

LET US make man in OUR IMAGE after OUR likeness.

God is PLURAL follow the PLURAL pronouns

another ERROR, listen and LEARN, Isaiah 45:12 "I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded."

now let's see it clearly right after your verse U quoted. Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

NOW THE VERY NEXT VERSE. Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

now civic, please tell us HOW God went from a "US", and "OUR" in one verse, and in the very next verse say "HE", and "HIS". please explain, and while you're at it answer the John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 if this is the same one person or Not.

your both answer please. PS read Isaiah 45:12 again, and tell us how many person is "I".

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[civic]

God is One in Nature ( singular- He,His ) and Plural in Persons ( we, us , our )

Simple as that- God is both Singular and Plural, Christ is both God and man.

Don't you just love A Dichotomy

next..................

hope this helps !!!

 

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Simple as that- God is both Singular and Plural, Christ is both God and man.

Don't you just love A Dichotomy

next..................

hope this helps !!!

Another ERROR, we all know God is a plurality in the ECHAD, (of himself), but in Person(S), NO. so to prove the no 3 person, just answer the John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 question..... Last chance, to answer the person question of Jesus is he the LORD all cap the same one person in John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24, yes or no?

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[civic]

Another ERROR, we all know God is a plurality in the ECHAD, (of himself), but in Person(S), NO. so to prove the no 3 person, just answer the John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 question..... Last chance, to answer the person question of Jesus is he the LORD all cap the same one person in John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24, yes or no?

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ERROR ALERT - FALLACY ALERT

Echad is used for a single CLUSTER OF GRAPES - here we see both singular and plural .

oops

next

hope this helps !!!

 

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ERROR ALERT - FALLACY ALERT

Echad is used for a single CLUSTER OF GRAPES - here we see both singular and plural .

oops

next

hope this helps !!!

so, we can take this as you cannot answer the John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 question? thought so.

it's the SAME one person in the ECHAD of "TIME", "PLACE", "ORDER", and "RANK". and these designations are expressed in God himself being the First and Last of his OWNSELF, per Isaiah 63:5. what a shame ..... (smile), YIKES!. many are still LOST..... for the scriptures are not going to change ........ at all....

good day,

101G.

 

[civic]

so, we can take this as you cannot answer the John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 question? thought so.

it's the SAME one person in the ECHAD of "TIME", "PLACE", "ORDER", and "RANK". and these designations are expressed in God himself being the First and Last of his OWNSELF, per Isaiah 63:5. what a shame ..... (smile), YIKES!. many are still LOST..... for the scriptures are not going to change ........ at all....

good day,

101G.

False Dichotomy Fallacy- you are conflating/equivocating and cherry picking passages and ripping them from their context- pure eisegesis.