charismaticlady
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No, just get educated.
The Discovery of Hidden Mystery Against OSAS
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No, just get educated.
charismaticlady
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I'm just giving you an educated truth. It may just be a little advanced for some, or pull the rug out of some people's false security. I don't want any to perish, so I teach. As long as you have the Holy Spirit inside you and do not have a desire to sin, you are abiding in Him, and He in you. That's what REALLY matters. If on the other hand, you think 'my sins cannot take me out of God's hands,' the demons win with their heretical doctrines. I am very concerned with this lukewarm church age, and the "falling away" of many Christian. Jesus is coming very, very soon, and we in America may all die soon from Russia. If you want to go to heaven, make sure you have the power of Christ in you and you are sinless - righteous. And if you already are, see if you can mature all the fruit of the Spirit to perfection - holiness.
Ezra
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so i need a degree to know that no man can pluck me out of the fathers hand ? next you will tell i cant know that i am saved.. that ye may know
you need read your bible closer
Ezra
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ok what educated truth do you think you hold?
your absolutely right
thats not what any one said is it?
why do you fear Russia? i am concerned about the Luke warm age also
i your saved you have the power inside you see i am only a h.s graduate i know what you know
charismaticlady
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I don't have a degree in this. I am just thirsty for truth and knowing the meaning of every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. You can't take verses out of context. I think I was fortunate to meet a Jewish Christian scholar that introduced me to the Jewish perspective, and I researched it from there.
Ezra
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stop taking it out of context lets look what is being said
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
give WHO eternal life? those saved your making strange fire
27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. who are MY SHEEP > those born again
charismaticlady
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I'm glad you are not in one of those church denominations that do. It is called hyper-Calvinism.
Russia is the bear in Bible prophecy. They have nukes that are computerized and are multiple nukes in one. There are so many we could never shoot them all down. The US in not found in Revelation. I'm wondering if North America could be one of the three out of ten horns that are broken off. They could also set off the super-volcano at Yellowstone. There is so much I could go on, but do not let your heart be troubled. Stay abiding in Jesus and trust in Him.
Huh?
charismaticlady
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If John 17 didn't exist, you would be right.
Ezra
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your getting to far out there for me. i call it left field theology .. so far left you cant see home plate
Aeliana
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I have the new translation of "My Opinion" It's the only one that's correct.
Frank Russell
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Your opinion. Thank you for sharing.
charismaticlady
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It has to do with KEY WORDS. This one is GIVE/GIVEN/GAVE. The only humans God gave to Jesus as in a predestination was the Apostles, just like in Ephesians 1. The later Gentiles were not predestinated as people. What was predestinated in us was those who become born again are predestined to be conformed into the likeness of Christ.
Same with 1 John 1:6, 8 and 10 all have the key word, "say/says". They are all full of darkness. It is clearer in the next chapter. 1 John 2:4 "He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. "
Frank Russell
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That's the underlying philosophy and reason why denominations exist.I have the new translation of "My Opinion" It's the only one that's correct.
Aeliana
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I see you've read it.
praise_yeshua
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Peccable people sin.
What is temptation but a desire to sin?
1Co 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.
Unlike Christ, we do not have the ability to live without being overcome by temptation. Even when God makes a way to escape, we don't always take it.
charismaticlady
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Temptation is a long way from SIN.
14 But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. 15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.
James 4:7 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
When I was married to a man that was a sociopath, and I would come across some man that treated his wife well, I literally shook my head hard, actually rattling my brain and think about something else.
Your last sentence is false doctrine.
1 John 3:8-9
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
To be like Christ is why we MUST be born again to be conformed to the image of God. Romans 8:29-30
praise_yeshua
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Notice the "our own desires"?
You said that you didn't desire sin.....
How can you reconcile what you said to what is written here?
Frank Russell
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Temptation and sin seem to be pretty closely adjacent.
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew 5:28)
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer. (1 John 3:15)
Intent to lust and murder is equal to the act itself, being tempted implies subconscious intent, so ...
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew 5:28)
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer. (1 John 3:15)
Intent to lust and murder is equal to the act itself, being tempted implies subconscious intent, so ...
Obadiah
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All you have to do is call someone a fool or an idiot that cuts you off on the freeway. Bam...Same as a murderer. And yet posters here try to tell us that as Christians we are without sin. It's kind of a contradiction.
Here's the real deal:
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:8-10
charismaticlady
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It says it plainly. Don't let yourself become "enticed." That is when it becomes action towards sin, not taking the route of escape.
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