His People He foreknew !

[atpollard]

Would you agree whoever caused something to occur is also the responsible party ?

Who is the “responsible party” for Joseph being sold into slavery so many lives could be saved during the famine?
[Genesis 50:20]

 

[atpollard]

The only way God was involved in the creation of sin was by creating everyone in HIS image, ie, able to be a proper bride for HIM, with a free will. All sin arose from the free will of the creature itself, not in the slightest from HIS will which was for us to chose to become holy and to live with HIM in a heavenly marriage.

Redefining omniscience, foreknowledge, ie, what HE knows:
Sin cannot accrue except by a free will choice to rebel against GOD.
Light cannot create dark.
Good cannot create evil.

Did you know that in physics, “darkness” does not exist?
If you think I am wrong, then “what is the unit of measure for darkness?”

Light is measured in “foot-candles” and “lumens”, but there is no unit for measuring darkness. Darkness is defined as the absence of Light. Light exists as a real physical quantifiable substance, darkness does not. Thus, by the very act of existing, LIGHT is what gives meaning to DARKNESS (the absence of light).

We can apply this to God. GOOD exists as the measure of the presence of “God-likeness” or the qualities that make God, God. EVIL is like darkness, the absence of God and His qualities. Like darkness, evil has no real, independent existence to be created. It is the very existence of GOOD that creates the units by which we can measure its absence and call that ‘void of good’ “EVIL”.
(Just as we call the ‘void of light’ “DARKNESS” even if it does not really exist.)

So there is no “evil” for anyone to create. There is God who defines GOOD and there is the measure of ‘how much good’ and ‘how much void from God’s standard’.

 

[brightfame52]

FOREKNOWLEDGE OF GOD

By Nick Bibile

Here’s the million dollar question. On what basis did God save us?

Romans 8:29

For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

Many believe that God looked into the future and saw who would believe in Christ, and those who believed God predestined and elected them. This is not true.

If this is true then salvation is not of God but of man, because God has to act on man’s belief.

The Greek word for foreknowledge is proginosko. And it is never used in connection with an action of the person but to the person.

God did not elect you because he foresaw of your repenting and believing. It is true that God knew that some would repent and believe on him, but that is not what the scripture is referring to God’s foreknowledge.

Let us look some scripture on foreknowledge and it will be very clear to you that the word foreknowledge refers to the persons and not to their works.

Acts 2:23 "Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain" (Peter is not speaking of God’s foreknowledge of the action of crucifixion, but the person that is Christ being crucified: "HIM (Christ) being delivered…"


Romans 8:29 "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren." (Whom he foreknew referring to persons and not referring to their actions on what they did)


God did not elect us because he foreknew, but the truth is he foreknew because he elected us. First God chooses, that is, he unconditionally sets his favor on whom he will, then destines them for their glorious role in eternity


1 John 4:19

We love because he first loved us.


John 15:16

You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit…..


Jeremiah 1:5

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,

and before you were born I consecrated you;

I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”


Beloved, God loved us not because of our actions, God loved us first, then comes our actions.


Beloved from the beginning to the end, salvation is all God’s work.

Remember we saw yesterday we were dead in sin, we didn’t have the power to rise, but we saw it was God who raised us from our sins, because of his great mercy.

Also we saw salvation is a gift, It is all from God and all the glory goes not to man but to God alone!

 

[jeremiah1five]

More trusting in the flesh

Not even, steven.
It's a choice between Infralapsarian and Supralapsarian, but with one difference: Taking Isaiah 45:7 as written and purposed, Isaiah states God created evil. Since I do not believe Scripture teaches a "Fall", but that evil was created by default when God created man, which I also hold to Isaiah's statements of truth that:

1. There is only ONE God.
2. There is NONE like Him.
3. That, He [God] gives His glory to NO ONE.

That the logical conclusion with regard to the eternal differences between God and man, man was created - NOT DUPLICATED - fallen short of the glory of God, or the glory that is God. And this turns on the pivot in opposition to God that God cannot reduplicate Himself in Himself.
But I will venture you have no stinking idea what the his-ell I am talking about.

Have you any inkling to what I mean that "God cannot reduplicate Himself in Himself?"
Or is it that such considerations fly well above and over your head or understanding?

So, let me check the depths of your understanding of the things of God.
Question: What is meant that "God cannot reduplicate Himself in Himself."

Doest thou knoweth?

 

[brightfame52]

@jeremiah1five

Not even, steven.

totally against grace.
Yes sir, you promote a race centered salvation by God, thats totally against grace.