The continued spread of the Arian Heresy (that Jesus is not God) in JW and Unitarian Churches.

[Fred]

Circular Reasoning. You are assuming as true what you are attempting to prove.

Zero proof given.

I already supplied the evidence, but you love running away.

Let me ask you this. Scripture comes right out and says YHWH is God almighty. It also comes right out and says Jesus is the son of God. So, my question is, IF Jesus is God incarnate - violating the 1C, Sh’ma, and Ex 3:15

Which it doesn't.

- why doesn’t Scripture come right out, and say these verses are superseded by the trinity doctrine

The previous passages prove Jesus is YHWH.

 

[Fred]

The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word, not the concept. Pretty easy.

Not 'pretty easy' but 'very easy' for you since you offer no proof.

 

[Fred]

You are just too hilarious. Biden is in a "position of authority". Do you pray to him as a "proper recipient of prayer"?

I wouldn't be surprised since he also prays to his parents.

Here's the proof:

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/why-the-trinity-is-wrong-language-usage.201/#post-5212

 

[Wrangler]

You are just too hilarious. Biden is in a "position of authority". Do you pray to him as a "proper recipient of prayer"?

My agents do.

 

[Wrangler]

Not 'pretty easy' but 'very easy' for you since you offer no proof.

LOL. The burden of proof is on you, who is making the positive claim.

 

[Wrangler]

I wouldn't be surprised since he also prays to his parents.

All kids pray to their parents, asking for something all the time.

 

[Fred]

LOL. The burden of proof is on you, who is making the positive claim.

I gave proof with passages of the Bible backing it up.

Your response was basically it was wrong because you say it's wrong.

Pitiful.

 

[synergy]

I wouldn't be surprised since he also prays to his parents.

Here's the proof:

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/why-the-trinity-is-wrong-language-usage.201/#post-5212

Interesting. @Wrangler, have you had spirit visitations or paranormal experiences?

 

[Fred]

All kids pray to their parents, asking for something all the time.

So that means Jesus prayed to the demons in Mark 5:9 because He asked them to give Him their name!

Strange!

 

[Wrangler]

I gave proof with passages of the Bible backing it up.

Oh? What verse reads something like The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit who are co-equal, co-substantial and co-eternal - and if you do not believe this, you cannot be saved but are damned to hell forever?

 

[Wrangler]

Interesting. @Wrangler, have you had spirit visitations or paranormal experiences?

Yes. Have you?

 

[Wrangler]

So that means Jesus prayed to the demons in Mark 5:9 because He asked them to give Him their name!

Strange!

Hmmm. Did Jesus ask or command the demons?

 

[Fred]

Oh?

Yes.

What verse reads something like

I gave the verses.
You ignored them.

 

[Fred]

Hmmm. Did Jesus ask or command the demons?

Yes, He asked them their name.

 

[Wrangler]

Yes.




I gave the verses.
You ignored them.

Rebuked. The word you were looking for is that I rebuked the verses you claim support the trinity. That’s the opposite of ignoring your feeble efforts to defend the indefensible.

 

[Fred]

The word you were looking for is that I rebuked the verses

Nope. Your rebuking of what the Bible teaches will always fail.
You didn't supply proof because you were unable to.

 

[Wrangler]

Yes, He asked them their name.

Tell me you name is a command not a question. Ever see Star Wars, Episode III? Darth Sidious ‘suggested’ General Grievous moved the separatist leaders to Mustafa.

It’s like you are obtuse about language usage, flip what is literal and figurative. In any event, so what if Jesus rhetorically asks a demon a question??? What significance do you assign to this?

 

[Wrangler]

You didn't supply proof because you were unable to.

Pretending I have the burden is sophistry. You cannot prove what is not there. Conclusion: the trinity is not Biblical but anti-Biblical.

 

[Fred]

Tell me you name is a command not a question.

"What is your name?" (Mark 5:9).

That is a question,

Get a clue.

 

[synergy]

Yes. Have you?

Can't say I have. Nevertheless, several years ago I read an outstanding book on spiritual manifestations and visitations written by Seraphim Rose. It is called "Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future". It takes you through Hinduism, Charismatic Revivals, etc... and describes to you the spiritual under-currents of many movements. Just an outstanding book. It was written around 1980 so it's a little dated but the insights it gives are more relevant than ever.