The Calvinists eisegesis of John 6:55

We are not talking about physical skills clearly. Keep reading by the way. I know exactly where you got that from.



Your claim assumes your arguing rationally. Your not. LOL
Sorry, people born with an inability to do certain things do not have a natural ability to do them.

The lack of rationality here clearly is in your post.
 
Nope. You can but morally you simply dont want to.

Yup, there is. Your ignorance not withstanding
Sorry, but Calvinist theology holds that man is created with no ability to do so

It is therefore impossible he has a natural ability to do so.

The fact you cannot understand that shows where the ignorance resides.

BTW were your claim of any truth, God would not have to install faith but could simply remove the moral inability and allow man to believe should he so desire

Do you see any suggestion of such in the bible?
 
Sorry, but Calvinist theology holds that man is created with no ability to do so

It is therefore impossible he has a natural ability to do so.

The fact you cannot understand that shows where the ignorance resides.

BTW were your claim of any truth, God would not have to install faith but could simply remove the moral inability and allow man to believe should he so desire

Do you see any suggestion of such in the bible?
Nope. No Calvinist says you have no ability.

No its not.

Nope again. You have not demonstrated why this is necessarily so. Im not holding my breath.
 
Nope. No Calvinist says you have no ability.

No its not.

Nope again. You have not demonstrated why this is necessarily so. Im not holding my breath.
Sorry, but Calvinist theology holds that man is created with no ability to do so

It is therefore impossible he has a natural ability to do so.

The fact you cannot understand that shows where the ignorance resides.

The truth is

Calvinism asserts that humanity is so depraved and spiritually dead that individuals cannot respond to the Gospel unless they are first regenerated by God.

BTW were your claim of any truth, God would not have to install faith but could simply remove the moral inability and allow man to believe should he so desire

Do you see any suggestion of such in the bible?
 
Sorry, but Calvinist theology holds that man is created with no ability to do so

It is therefore impossible he has a natural ability to do so.

The fact you cannot understand that shows where the ignorance resides.

The truth is

Calvinism asserts that humanity is so depraved and spiritually dead that individuals cannot respond to the Gospel unless they are first regenerated by God.

BTW were your claim of any truth, God would not have to install faith but could simply remove the moral inability and allow man to believe should he so desire

Do you see any suggestion of such in the bible?
Quote one.

My claim does not necessarily mean God installs faith. Thats your silly claim. Burden of proof lies with you. Are you man enough to embrace your burden or do you prefer to simply repeat yourself. I think I know but I could be wrong.
 
Quote one.

My claim does not necessarily mean God installs faith. Thats your silly claim. Burden of proof lies with you. Are you man enough to embrace your burden or do you prefer to simply repeat yourself. I think I know but I could be wrong.
Will you answer?

Do you believe/deny God installs faith?

Ligonier states

Saving faith is a gift from our Creator Himself, given only to His elect, who are certain to persevere until the end of life

If man cannot reject God's gift that has been given to him, there was no natural ability to reject the gospel.

And if one is not given the Spirit, there is no natural ability to accept the gospel.
 
Nope. No Calvinist says you have no ability.

No its not.

Nope again. You have not demonstrated why this is necessarily so. Im not holding my breath.
Really?

RC Sproul

If John 3:16 implied a universal natural human ability of fallen men to choose Christ, then that implication would be wiped out by Jesus’ explicit teaching to the contrary. We have already shown that Jesus explicitly and unambiguously taught that no man has the ability to come to Him without God doing something to give him that ability, namely drawing him.

He just stated Jesus taught contrary to your claim of a natural ability to accept or reject the gospel.
 
Yes they do. Again your ignorant of natural ability as opposed to moral ability.
Try rereading before you reply again

Sorry, people born with an inability to do certain things do not have a natural ability to do them.

The lack of rationality here clearly is in your post.
 
Nope. You can but morally you simply dont want to.

Yup, there is. Your ignorance not withstanding
Not according to RC

If John 3:16 implied a universal natural human ability of fallen men to choose Christ, then that implication would be wiped out by Jesus’ explicit teaching to the contrary. We have already shown that Jesus explicitly and unambiguously taught that no man has the ability to come to Him without God doing something to give him that ability, namely drawing him. RC Sproul
 
Not according to RC

If John 3:16 implied a universal natural human ability of fallen men to choose Christ, then that implication would be wiped out by Jesus’ explicit teaching to the contrary. We have already shown that Jesus explicitly and unambiguously taught that no man has the ability to come to Him without God doing something to give him that ability, namely drawing him. RC Sproul
Yup, no man has the moral ability to believe. They do have the natural ability though. They could if they wanted.
 
Yup, no man has the moral ability to believe. They do have the natural ability though. They could if they wanted.
Not according to RC

If John 3:16 implied a universal natural human ability of fallen men to choose Christ, then that implication would be wiped out by Jesus’ explicit teaching to the contrary. We have already shown that Jesus explicitly and unambiguously taught that no man has the ability to come to Him without God doing something to give him that ability, namely drawing him. RC Sproul

He clearly taught man does not have the natural ability
 
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