The Calvinists eisegesis of John 6:55
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To the contrary
Sorry but it seems pretty obvious
if everyone is born hating God, unable to believe, there is no natural ability to believe.
Nor is there any possible desire according to your theology
That there is no natural ability to believe is rather clear if you are open to the truth.
BTW
Then, being born in that condition, no one has any desire to believe so; if it is done by God, it is contrary to human will in your theology.
So it sounds like force or coercion.
Clearly it is contrary to the will of man your theology vocates.
Further, while God had determined this reprobation, he then commands all to believe who he
determined cannot and then punishes eternally those who cannot overcome the condition he determined all
would be born under.
There are some serious issues with that theology.
God himself determines all men reprobate, then punishes them because they are what he determined.
That sounds just to you?
additionally
Romans 10:8–10 (LEB) — 8 But what does it say? “The word is near to you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim), 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth one confesses, resulting in salvation.
Romans 10:17 (LEB) — 17 Consequently, faith comes by hearing, and hearing through the word about Christ.
John 20:31 (LEB) — 31 but these things are recorded in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
The verses above reflect a real natural ability contrary to your theology.
The word is near to your mouth and heart.
Faith is stated to come by hearing.
Scripture has passages written that you may believe.
This is all contrary to your theology.
This was proof and you ignore it
So you want us to believe God commands men to do what he had determined they could not do
Scriptures below however are telling man to choose, revere, or love God and clearly involve ability
Deuteronomy 30:19–20 (LEB) — 19 I invoke as a witness against you today the heaven and the earth: life and death I have set before you, blessing and curse. So choose life, so that you may live, you and your offspring, 20 by loving Yahweh your God by listening to his voice and by clinging to him, for he is your life and the length of your days in order for you to live on the land that Yahweh swore to your ancestors, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give to them.”
1 Kings 18:21 (LEB) — 21 Elijah approached to all the people and said, “How long will you go limping over two opinions? If Yahweh is God, go after him; but if Baal, go after him.” But the people did not answer him a word.
Proverbs 3:5–6 (LEB) — 5 Trust Yahweh with all your heart; do not lean toward your own understanding. 6 In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will straighten your paths.
Joshua 24:14–15 (LEB) — 14 “So now, revere Yahweh and serve him in sincerity and faithfulness; remove the gods that your ancestors served beyond the river and in Egypt, and serve Yahweh. 15 But if it is bad in your eyes to serve Yahweh, choose for yourselves today whom you want to serve, whether it is the gods that your ancestors served beyond the river, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my household, we will serve Yahweh.”
That would be true natural ability.
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