The Bible does not teach to pray to Jesus

Why don't you believe Jesus is the only Lord?

Jude 4 (LEB) — 4 For certain men have slipped in stealthily, who were designated long ago for this condemnation, ungodly ones, who change the grace of our God into licentiousness and who deny our only Master and Lord Jesus Christ.
I believe in a hierarchy. Jesus is clearly not the singular Lord over all in Scripture. The Father is the Lord over all and Jesus is the Lord over the church and whatever else God stationed him over. This is why the Father is also called the One Lord. Context is key here.

Ephesians 4 (NIV)
4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Why do you not believe the Father is the One God over all?
 
Jesus' Deity has always been under your nose. The names YHWH/Jehovah and Adonai are translated to κυριος (Lord) in the Greek OT (Septuagint) and to Lord in English translations.

You even quoted Acts 2:36 which confirms Jesus as YHWH and Adonai in Hebrew, which translate to κυριος in Greek and to Lord in English.

The Apostles did not use the title "Lord" (κυριος) for anyone besides Jesus and God the Father in the New Testament. While κυριος could be used culturally as a term of respect or authority, the Apostles specifically used "Lord" to indicate divine authority, reverence, or worship when referring to Jesus or God the Father.

For example, Peter addresses Jesus as "Lord" (κυριος) with the understanding of His divine nature, particularly after Jesus' resurrection (Acts 2:36). Similarly, "Lord" is also used in prayers addressed to God the Father (as in Acts 4:24). The Apostles reserve this title, in its spiritual sense, for the divine alone, and there is no record of them calling any other human "Lord" in the same way.

As I commended you many times before, keep those Trinitarian Verses coming! 👏👏
Amen
 
Jesus is Lord. Well, that didn't work out for you.

Jesus is a god isn't he? There is John 1:1 where the Word is not The God. He said there are many gods, including himself. He is a god who is a son of THE GOD. Didn't the word of God come to Jesus? didn't you know none of Jesus' teachings are his own (John 7:16) and that he did not speak his own words (John 12:49) because that words from the Father are the words of eternal life (John 12:50) and it is the words of the Father that judge someone on the last day (John 12:48) and provided all of that, see why Jesus denied being God in Mark 10:18? He's a human. That's undeniable. He isn't an omniscient God, but rather a human who God spoke to.

John 10 (NIV)
34Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods” ’ ? 35If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
Context please-
Joh 10:32 Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good deeds from the Father. For which one of them are you going to stone me?”
Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, “We are not going to stone you concerning a good deed, but concerning blasphemy, and because you, (+) although you [Here “although” is supplied as a component of the participle (“are”) which is understood as concessive] are a man, make yourself (+) to be God!”
Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? [A quotation from Ps 82:6 (in common usage “law” could refer to the entire Old Testament)]
Joh 10:35 If he called them ‘gods’ to whom the word of God came—and the scripture cannot be broken—
Joh 10:36 do you say about (+) he whom the Father set apart and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?
Joh 10:37 If I do not do the deeds of my Father, do not believe me.
Joh 10:38 But if I am doing (+) them, [Here the direct object is supplied from context in the English translation] even if you do not believe me, believe the deeds, so that you may know and understand that the Father (+) is in me and I (+) am in the Father.”
In your law (en tōi nomōi humōn). From Psa_82:6. The term nomos (law) applying here to the entire O.T. as in Joh_12:34; Joh_15:25; Rom_3:19; 1Co_14:21. Aleph D Syr-sin. omit humōn, but needlessly. We have it already so from Jesus in Joh_8:17. They posed as the special custodians of the O.T.

I said (hoti egō eipa). Recitative hoti before a direct quotation like our quotation marks. Eipa is a late second aorist form of indicative with -a instead of -on.

Ye are gods (theoi este). Another direct quotation after eipa but without hoti. The judges of Israel abused their office and God is represented in Psa_82:6 as calling them “gods” (theoi, elohim) because they were God’s representatives. See the same use of elohim in Exo_21:6; Exo_22:9, Exo_22:28. Jesus meets the rabbis on their own ground in a thoroughly Jewish way.

I am the Son of God - This the Jews evidently understood as the same as saying that he was equal with God. This expression he had often applied to himself. The meaning of this place may be thus expressed: “You charge me with blasphemy. The foundation of that charge is the use of the name God, or the Son of God, applied to myself; yet that same term is applied in the Scriptures to magistrates. The use of it there shows that it is right to apply it to those who sustain important offices (see the notes of Joh_10:34-35). And especially you, Jews, ought not to attempt to found a charge of blasphemy on the application of a word to the Messiah which in your own Scriptures is applied to all magistrates. And we may remark here:
1. That Jesus did not deny that he meant to apply the term to himself.
2. He did not deny that it was properly applied to him.
3. He did not deny that it implied that he was God. He affirmed only that they were inconsistent, and were not authorized to bring a charge of blasphemy for the application of the name to himself.
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Joh 1:1 The Prologue to John’s Gospel
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 This one was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All (+) things came into being through him, and apart from him not one (+) thing came into being that [Or "what," beginning a new sentence connected with the following verse; a major punctuation problem is involved, since the earliest manuscripts have no punctuation, but some important later ones place the punctuation before this phrase, effectively connecting it to v. 4: “What has come into being was life in him”] has come into being.
Joh 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of humanity. [Or “humankind”]
Joh 1:5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome [Or “comprehend” (if primarily referring to people in the world)] it.
BESURAS HAGEULAH
ACCORDING TO
YOCHANAN

Bereshis (in the Beginning) was the Dvar Hashem [YESHAYAH 55:11; BERESHIS 1:1], and the Dvar Hashem was agav (along with) Hashem [MISHLE 8:30; 30:4], and the Dvar Hashem was nothing less, by nature, than Elohim! [Psa 56:11(10); Yn 17:5; Rev. 19:13]
Joh 1:2 Bereshis (in the Beginning) this Dvar Hashem was with Hashem [Prov 8:30].
Joh 1:3 All things through him came to be, and without him came to be not one thing which came into being. [Ps 33:6,9; Prov 30:4]
Joh 1:4 In him was Chayyim (Life) and the Chayyim (Life) was the Ohr (Light) of Bnei Adam. [TEHILLIM 36:10 (9)]
Joh 1:5 And the Ohr shines in the choshech [TEHILLIM 18:28], and the choshech did not grasp it. [YESHAYAH 9:1]

In the beginning (en archēi). Archē is definite, though anarthrous like our at home, in town, and the similar Hebrew be reshith in Gen_1:1. But Westcott notes that here John carries our thoughts beyond the beginning of creation in time to eternity. There is no argument here to prove the existence of God any more than in Genesis. It is simply assumed. Either God exists and is the Creator of the universe as scientists like Eddington and Jeans assume or matter is eternal or it has come out of nothing.

Was (ēn). Three times in this sentence John uses this imperfect of eimi to be which conveys no idea of origin for God or for the Logos, simply continuous existence. Quite a different verb (egeneto, became) appears in Joh_1:14 for the beginning of the Incarnation of the Logos. See the distinction sharply drawn in Joh_8:58 “before Abraham came (genesthai) I am” (eimi, timeless existence).

The Word (ho logos). Logos is from legō, old word in Homer to lay by, to collect, to put words side by side, to speak, to express an opinion. Logos is common for reason as well as speech. Heraclitus used it for the principle which controls the universe. The Stoics employed it for the soul of the world (anima mundi) and Marcus Aurelius used spermatikos logos for the generative principle in nature. The Hebrew memra was used in the Targums for the manifestation of God like the Angel of Jehovah and the Wisdom of God in Pro_8:23. Dr. J. Rendel Harris thinks that there was a lost wisdom book that combined phrases in Proverbs and in the Wisdom of Solomon which John used for his Prologue (The Origin of the Prologue to St. John, p. 43) which he has undertaken to reproduce. At any rate John’s standpoint is that of the Old Testament and not that of the Stoics nor even of Philo who uses the term Logos, but not John’s conception of personal pre-existence.

The term Logos is applied to Christ only in Joh_1:1, Joh_1:14; Rev_19:13; 1Jn_1:1 “concerning the Word of life” (an incidental argument for identity of authorship). There is a possible personification of “the Word of God” in Heb_4:12. But the personal pre-existence of Christ is taught by Paul (2Co_8:9; Php_2:6.; Col_1:17) and in Heb_1:2. and in Joh_17:5. This term suits John’s purpose better than sophia (wisdom) and is his answer to the Gnostics who either denied the actual humanity of Christ (Docetic Gnostics) or who separated the aeon Christ from the man Jesus (Cerinthian Gnostics). The pre-existent Logos “became flesh” (sarx egeneto, Joh_1:14) and by this phrase John answered both heresies at once.

With God (pros ton theon). Though existing eternally with God the Logos was in perfect fellowship with God. Pros with the accusative presents a plane of equality and intimacy, face to face with each other. In 1Jn_2:1 we have a like use of pros: “We have a Paraclete with the Father” (paraklēton echomen pros ton patera). See prosōpon pros prosōpon (face to face, 1Co_13:12), a triple use of pros. There is a papyrus example of pros in this sense to gnōston tēs pros allēlous sunētheias, “the knowledge of our intimacy with one another” (M.&M., Vocabulary) which answers the claim of Rendel Harris, Origin of Prologue, p. 8) that the use of pros here and in Mar_6:3 is a mere Aramaism. It is not a classic idiom, but this is Koiné, not old Attic. In Joh_17:5 John has para soi the more common idiom.
And the Word was God (kai theos ēn ho logos).

By exact and careful language John denied Sabellianism by not saying ho theos ēn ho logos. That would mean that all of God was expressed in ho logos and the terms would be interchangeable, each having the article. The subject is made plain by the article (ho logos) and the predicate without it (theos) just as in Joh_4:24 pneuma ho theos can only mean “God is spirit,” not “spirit is God.” So in 1Jn_4:16 ho theos agapē estin can only mean “God is love,” not “love is God” as a so-called Christian scientist would confusedly say. For the article with the predicate see Robertson, Grammar, pp. 767f. So in Joh_1:14 ho Logos sarx egeneto, “the Word became flesh,” not “the flesh became Word.” Luther argues that here John disposes of Arianism also because the Logos was eternally God, fellowship of Father and Son, what Origen called the Eternal Generation of the Son (each necessary to the other). Thus in the Trinity we see personal fellowship on an equal
Robertson

Which way are you going to now?

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I believe in a hierarchy. Jesus is clearly not the singular Lord over all in Scripture. The Father is the Lord over all and Jesus is the Lord over the church and whatever else God stationed him over. This is why the Father is also called the One Lord. Context is key here.

Ephesians 4 (NIV)
4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Why do you not believe the Father is the One God over all?
Your illogical position would mean the following is true according to your unbiblical view.

1- The Father is the one and only God eliminating the Son from being God
2- The Son is the One and Only Lord eliminating the Father from being Lord.

conclusion: you cannot have your cake and eat it too since the Bible declares both the Father/Son are God and both the Son/Father are Lord. Your unbiblical views have been exposed and your bias has been proven to be unbiblical too. You are inconsistent with the passage and I have just shown your contradictions from your own verse.

hope this helps !!!
 
Your illogical position would mean the following is true according to your unbiblical view.

1- The Father is the one and only God eliminating the Son from being God
2- The Son is the One and Only Lord eliminating the Father from being Lord.

conclusion: you cannot have your cake and eat it too since the Bible declares both the Father/Son are God and both the Son/Father are Lord. Your unbiblical views have been exposed and your bias has been proven to be unbiblical too. You are inconsistent with the passage and I have just shown your contradictions from your own verse.

hope this helps !!!
I have no doubt that simply quoting Scripture will convince you that Jesus is not equal to God, and that the Father is the Lord of Jesus, but it'll help someone I'm sure.

John 14 (NIV)​
28“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
John 13 (NIV)​
16Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.
1 Corinthians 11 (NIV)​
3But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God

Let me guess... this is all error and illogical to you. You are not fooling anyone here sir. Scripture is plain and clear about Jesus being below God.
 
I have no doubt that simply quoting Scripture will convince you that Jesus is not equal to God, and that the Father is the Lord of Jesus, but it'll help someone I'm sure.

John 14 (NIV)​
28“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
John 13 (NIV)​
16Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.
1 Corinthians 11 (NIV)​
3But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God

Let me guess... this is all error and illogical to you. You are not fooling anyone here sir. Scripture is plain and clear about Jesus being below God.
That’s has to do with rank not nature, character , essence or being.

I’m greater than my wife , rank higher in authority in our family but I’m not a greater human than she is. We are equal as humans.

Next fallacy
 
That’s has to do with rank not nature, character , essence or being.

I’m greater than my wife , rank higher in authority in our family but I’m not a greater human than she is. We are equal as humans.

Next fallacy
Scripture says God is greater than Jesus. It's still there. God is greater than Jesus in every way imaginable.
 
Great answer!!
Here's the answer you gave me in a private message.

"I have chosen to ignore you and your blasphemous BS. I didn't really believe in evolution until I came met you.
It's peanut brain Gentile people like you that gives Christianity a black eye. Glad I'm Jewish ✡️ Have another ham sandwich for the road and make sure to wear your pager!
Oh by the way, thank you for providing transportation for Yeshua's mother Mary. Everyone knows that Joseph walked and Mary rode an ***."
 
I believe in a hierarchy. Jesus is clearly not the singular Lord over all in Scripture. The Father is the Lord over all and Jesus is the Lord over the church and whatever else God stationed him over. This is why the Father is also called the One Lord. Context is key here.

Ephesians 4 (NIV)
4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Why do you not believe the Father is the One God over all?
Oh so you believe scripture only when it fits your thinking

Jude 4 (LEB) — 4 For certain men have slipped in stealthily, who were designated long ago for this condemnation, ungodly ones, who change the grace of our God into licentiousness and who deny our only Master and Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 8:6 (LEB) — 6 yet to us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we are for him, and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we are through him.

But as the Father is also Lord, so Jesus is also God

Lord and God in the context of Christianity are convertible titles

That is what scripture shows

Peter and Paul each made the assertion that Jesus is “Lord of all’’ (Acts 10:36; Romans 10:12). Paul also said, “… for if they had understood it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory’’ (1 Corinthians 2:8). Who is the Lord of glory? Psalm 24:10 states that “The Lord [YHWH] of hosts, He is the King of glory.’’ (See also Psalm 96:7, 8.) In 2 Corinthians 4:4-5, Paul called Jesus Lord, saying,“The god of this world [Satan] has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord.” Thus,Christ, the image of God, is Lord. Paul used the same language and imagery in calling Jesus Lord that Isaiah used in the Old Testament of Yahweh (Jehovah):
 
Jesus is Lord. Well, that didn't work out for you.

Jesus is a god isn't he? There is John 1:1 where the Word is not The God. He said there are many gods, including himself. He is a god who is a son of THE GOD. Didn't the word of God come to Jesus? didn't you know none of Jesus' teachings are his own (John 7:16) and that he did not speak his own words (John 12:49) because that words from the Father are the words of eternal life (John 12:50) and it is the words of the Father that judge someone on the last day (John 12:48) and provided all of that, see why Jesus denied being God in Mark 10:18? He's a human. That's undeniable. He isn't an omniscient God, but rather a human who God spoke to.

John 10 (NIV)
34Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods” ’ ? 35If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
It worked out just fine for me

He is God but if you want to say Jehovah is a God then Jesus is a God in the same sense

However you did not address your noted contradictions/flipflops

Your confession only Jesus is lord then denying it

But I will give you another

Arguing he is a god or godly and also impersonal

would you like a third?

You deny he is stated to be eternal then you argue he is not personal because he is called the eternal life which was with the Father
 
Oh so you believe scripture only when it fits your thinking

Jude 4 (LEB) — 4 For certain men have slipped in stealthily, who were designated long ago for this condemnation, ungodly ones, who change the grace of our God into licentiousness and who deny our only Master and Lord Jesus Christ.
Jesus isn't the Sovereign Lord in Acts 4:23-31. He's a servant of the Sovereign Lord. Oops.... there's that hierarchy I was talking about again.

Acts 4 (NIV)
23On their release, Peter and John went back to their own people and reported all that the chief priests and the elders had said to them. 24When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. “Sovereign Lord,” they said, “you made the heavens and the earth and the sea, and everything in them.
27Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed. 30Stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus.”
1 Corinthians 8:6 (LEB) — 6 yet to us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we are for him, and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we are through him.
And Ephesians 4:4-6 the Father is the One Lord OVER ALL. Check mate again on the hierarchy.

Ephesians 4 (NIV)
4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
But as the Father is also Lord, so Jesus is also God
Not according to Scripture.

John 17 (NIV)
. 3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.
Lord and God in the context of Christianity are convertible titles
No they aren't. Jesus is never called the One God in the Bible.

That is what scripture shows

Peter and Paul each made the assertion that Jesus is “Lord of all’’ (Acts 10:36; Romans 10:12).
Not the Lord of the Father according to Ephesians 4:4-6. The Father is over all.

Paul also said, “… for if they had understood it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory’’ (1 Corinthians 2:8). Who is the Lord of glory? Psalm 24:10 states that “The Lord [YHWH] of hosts, He is the King of glory.’’ (See also Psalm 96:7, 8.)
Being called the Lord of glory when someone is not YHWH is not a point. See Psalm 110:10, Psalm 2:7, Acts 3:13, Exodus 3:14,15.

Jesus is not the I AM, YHWH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, etc.
In 2 Corinthians 4:4-5, Paul called Jesus Lord, saying,“The god of this world [Satan] has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord.” Thus,Christ, the image of God, is Lord. Paul used the same language and imagery in calling Jesus Lord that Isaiah used in the Old Testament of Yahweh (Jehovah):
Scripture is clear people are created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27) so that is not a point at all. Furthermore, people can be transformed to the image of the Son which, according to your bad theology, would mean someone is God. That's not the point. You're taking this wayyyy to far.
 
It worked out just fine for me
Claiming I did something that is immediately contradicted by my testimony is a public debacle for you. Shows you have no idea what I believe or what you're talking about.

He is God but if you want to say Jehovah is a God then Jesus is a God in the same sense
I didn't say that. Strawman.
However you did not address your noted contradictions/flipflops
I have none despite you assigning them to me.

Your confession only Jesus is lord then denying it
Are you lying at this point sir? I already said Jesus is Lord now you're saying I'm denying it again. You're making a spectacle of yourself.

But I will give you another

Arguing he is a god or godly and also impersonal
Ever read John 10 where Jesus proved he is a god along with the other people to whom the word of God came? He has the same things as the other. They are elohim.

John 10 (NIV)
34Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods” ’ d ? 35If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?

would you like a third?

You deny he is stated to be eternal then you argue he is not personal because he is called the eternal life which was with the Father
Jesus is never called eternal in Scripture.

Here's one... you deny the Father is the "ONLY" true God. Isn't that right? Perhaps not explicitly, but you will wear yourself out arguing against it.
 
Claiming I did something that is immediately contradicted by my testimony is a public debacle for you. Shows you have no idea what I believe or what you're talking about.

Which you did do. Showing you have no comprehension or concern for reality
I didn't say that. Strawman.

Do you deny

Luke 20:38 (KJV 1900) — 38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.

I have none despite you assigning them to me.


Are you lying at this point sir? I already said Jesus is Lord now you're saying I'm denying it again. You're making a spectacle of yourself.

No but you are

Remember the discussion of 1cor 8:6

1 Corinthians 8:6 (NASB 2020) — 6 yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

And the argument that if this verse makes The father alone God then it makes Christ alone lord

Hello

Why did you divert from the issue

Ever read John 10 where Jesus proved he is a god along with the other people to whom the word of God came? He has the same things as the other. They are elohim.
Remember when you denied Jesus is god and remember when you failed to answer

Is he more or less god than they?

Why did you not answer?
John 10 (NIV)
34Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods” ’ d ? 35If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?


Jesus is never called eternal in Scripture.

Sorry, that is your other contradiction.

1 John 1:1–2 (NASB 2020) — 1 What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the Word of Life—2 and the life was revealed, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was revealed to us—

add

Isaiah 9:6 (NASB 2020) — 6 For a Child will be born to us, a Son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.






Here's one... you deny the Father is the "ONLY" true God. Isn't that right? Perhaps not explicitly, but you will wear yourself out arguing against it.
No I do not. I affirmed it

The father is the only true God.

The Son is the only true God and the Holy Spirit is the only true God
 
Jesus isn't the Sovereign Lord in Acts 4:23-31. He's a servant of the Sovereign Lord. Oops.... there's that hierarchy I was talking about again.

Acts 4 (NIV)
23On their release, Peter and John went back to their own people and reported all that the chief priests and the elders had said to them. 24When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. “Sovereign Lord,” they said, “you made the heavens and the earth and the sea, and everything in them.
27Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed. 30Stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus.”

You ran from the issue
Oh so you believe scripture only when it fits your thinking

Jude 4 (LEB) — 4 For certain men have slipped in stealthily, who were designated long ago for this condemnation, ungodly ones, who change the grace of our God into licentiousness and who deny our only Master and Lord Jesus Christ.

So if you cannot take verses such as this to mean only Jesus is lord why do you accept verses which you believe only the father is God when there are verse which state Christ is God
And Ephesians 4:4-6 the Father is the One Lord OVER ALL. Check mate again on the hierarchy.
All of God is father

There are three senses, it appears, in which "Father" is used in the New Testament in relation to God: (1) A Hebraism, common also in other religions, in which God is spoken of as the "Father" in the sense that he is Creator of all. (2) A parabolic sense of the word, very common in Jesus' teachings, in which "Father" is not intended to denote a distinct person in the Godhead, nor the fact of the creatorship of God, but the relation of God to the world or to individuals as "father" to children. This sense is often confused with the third sense: (3) A sense of the word in which it is clearly designed to refer to a specific individual personality, a technical term distinguishing the Father in the Godhead, in his internal relations, from the Son - E Calvin. Beisner


Ephesians 4 (NIV)
4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Not according to Scripture.

John 17 (NIV)
. 3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.

No they aren't. Jesus is never called the One God in the Bible.


Not the Lord of the Father according to Ephesians 4:4-6. The Father is over all.


Being called the Lord of glory when someone is not YHWH is not a point. See Psalm 110:10, Psalm 2:7, Acts 3:13, Exodus 3:14,15.
Um but Jesus is called YHWH when the New Testament speaks of him as being he who the Old Testament calls YHWH

example

Isaiah 6:1–5 (LEB) — 1 In the year of the death of Uzziah the king, I saw the Lord sitting on a high and raised throne, and the hem of his robe was filling the temple. 2 Seraphs were standing above him. Each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. 3 And the one called to the other and said, “Holy, holy, holy is Yahweh of hosts! The whole earth is full of his glory.” 4 And the pivots of the thresholds shook from the sound of those who called, and the house was filled with smoke. 5 And I said, “Woe to me! For I am destroyed! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I am living among a people of unclean lips, for my eyes have seen the king, Yahweh of hosts!”

Isaiah 6:6–10 (LEB) — 6 Then one of the seraphs flew to me, and in his hand was a hot coal he had taken from the altar with tongs. 7 And he touched my mouth, and he said, “Look! This has touched your lips and has removed your guilt, and your sin is annulled.” 8 Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?” And I said, “I am here! Send me!” 9 And he said, “Go and say to this people, ‘Keep on listening and do not comprehend! And keep on looking and do not understand!’ 10 Make the heart of this people insensitive, and make its ears unresponsive, and shut its eyes so that it may not look with its eyes and listen with its ears and comprehend with its mind and turn back, and it may be healed for him.”

compare to

John 12:37–41 (LEB) — 37 But as many signs as he (Jesus)had performed before them, they did not believe in him, 38 in order that the word of the prophet Isaiah would be fulfilled, who said, “Lord, who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?” 39 For this reason they were not able to believe, because again Isaiah said, 40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn, and I heal them.” 41 Isaiah said these things because he saw his (Jesus) glory, and he spoke about him.







Jesus is not the I AM, YHWH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, etc.

Scripture is clear people are created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27) so that is not a point at all. Furthermore, people can be transformed to the image of the Son which, according to your bad theology, would mean someone is God. That's not the point. You're taking this wayyyy to far.
Scripture disagrees with you again

John 8:58–59 (LEB) — 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was, I am!” 59 Then they picked up stones in order to throw them at him. But Jesus was hidden and went out of the temple courts.


Why did the Jews try to stone him

And here the angel of the lord appears to Jacob and is termed the God and YHWH


Genesis 31:11–13 (KJV 1900) — 11 And the angel of God spake unto me in a dream, saying, Jacob: And I said, Here am I. 12 And he said, Lift up now thine eyes, and see, all the rams which leap upon the cattle are ringstraked, speckled, and grisled: for I have seen all that Laban doeth unto thee. 13 I am the God of Beth-el, where thou anointedst the pillar, and where thou vowedst a vow unto me: now arise, get thee out from this land, and return unto the land of thy kindred.

The angel of the Lord tells Jacob he is the God of bethel where Jacob had made a vow unto him


Genesis 28:18–22 (LEB) — 18 And Jacob rose early in the morning, and he took the stone that he had put under his head and set it up as a stone pillar, and poured oil on top of it. 19 And he called the name of that place Bethel; however, the name of the city was formerly Luz. 20 And Jacob made a vow saying, “If God will be with me and protect me on this way that I am going, and gives me food to eat and clothing to wear, 21 and if I return in peace to the house of my father, then Yahweh will become my God. 22 And this stone that I have set up as a pillar shall be the house of God, and of all that you give to me I will certainly give a tenth to you.”

and here God speaks of the God who appeared to Jacob when he fled from Esau.had

Genesis 35:1–3 (KJV 1900) — 1 And God said unto Jacob, Arise, go up to Beth-el, and dwell there: and make there an altar unto God, that appeared unto thee when thou fleddest from the face of Esau thy brother. 2 Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the strange gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments: 3 And let us arise, and go up to Beth-el; and I will make there an altar unto God, who answered me in the day of my distress, and was with me in the way which I went.

The Messenger (angel) of Yahweh is called God, the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, Elohim, Yahweh and the I am

Exodus 3:2–15 (LEB) — 2 And the angel of Yahweh appeared to him in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush, and he looked, and there was the bush burning with fire, but the bush was not being consumed. 3 And Moses said, “Let me turn aside and see this great sight. Why does the bush not burn up?” 4 And Yahweh saw that he turned aside to see, and God called to him from the midst of the bush, and he said, “Moses, Moses.” And he said, “Here I am.” 5 And he said, “You must not come near to here. Take off your sandals from on your feet, because the place on which you are standing, it is holy ground.” 6 And he said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face because he was afraid of looking at God. 7 And Yahweh said, “Surely I have seen the misery of my people who are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry of distress because of their oppressors, for I know their sufferings. 8 And I have come down to deliver them from the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up from this land to a good and wide land, to a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanites and the Hittites and the Amorites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites. 9 And now, look, the cry of distress of the Israelites has come to me, and also I see the oppression with which the Egyptians are oppressing them. 10 And now come, and I will send you to Pharaoh, and you must bring my people, the Israelites, out from Egypt.” 11 But Moses said to God, “Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh and that I should bring the Israelites out from Egypt?” 12 And he said, “Because I am with you, and this will be the sign for you that I myself have sent you: When you bring the people out from Egypt, you will serve God on this mountain.” 13 But Moses said to God, “Look, if I go to the Israelites and I say to them, ‘The God of your ancestors has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is his name?’ then what shall I say to them?” 14 And God said to Moses, “I am that I am.” And he said, “So you must say to the Israelites, ‘I am sent me to you.’ ” 15 And God said again to Moses, “So you must say to the Israelites, ‘Yahweh, the God of your ancestors, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is my name forever, and this is my remembrance from generation to generation.’


The angel of the lord is the pre-incarnate Christ who followed the israeliyes in the desert

1 Corinthians 10:4 (LEB) — 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ.

1 Corinthians 10:7–9 (LEB) — 7 and not become idolaters, as some of them did, just as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and stood up to play,” 8 nor commit sexual immorality, as some of them committed sexual immorality, and twenty-three thousand fell in one day, 9 nor put Christ to the test, as some of them tested him, and were destroyed by snakes,

Jude 5 (LEB) — 5 Now I want to remind you, although you know everything once and for all, that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, the second time destroyed those who did not believe.

and what will you do with

Zechariah 2:6–9 (LEB) — 6 “Woe! Woe! Flee from the land of the north,” declares Yahweh, “for I have scattered you like the four winds of the heavens,” declares Yahweh. 7 “Woe, Zion! Escape, you inhabitants of the daughter of Babylon!” 8 For thus said Yahweh of hosts, after glory he sent me against the nations plundering you: Truly, the one touching you is touching the apple of his eye. 9 “Yes, look! I am going to wave my hand against them, and they will become plunder for their servants, and you will know that Yahweh of hosts has sent me.

Where Yahweh is sent by Yahweh of hosts
 
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Jesus is never called eternal in Scripture.
You walked into this with your eyes wide open brother.

John 1:1-2
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God."

While this passage emphasizes the pre-existence of Jesus as "the Word" (Logos), it doesn’t use the word "eternal" directly. However, it does imply that Christ was present "in the beginning," sharing in the divine nature and eternal existence with God.

2. Micah 5:2
"But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall come forth to Me the One to be Ruler in Israel, whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting."

The phrase "from everlasting" here uses the Hebrew word עוֹלָם (olam), which is often translated as "eternity." This prophecy refers to the Messiah’s eternal origins but does not directly call Him "eternal."

3. Hebrews 1:10-12
"You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands; they will perish, but You remain... You are the same, and Your years will not fail."

The writer of Hebrews applies this quotation from Psalm 102 to Jesus, indicating His unchanging and enduring nature. Although it emphasizes the permanence of Christ, it does not explicitly use the term "eternal."

4. Colossians 1:17
"And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist."

Paul describes Christ as existing "before all things," suggesting His pre-temporal existence. However, the term "eternal" is not directly applied to Him here.
5. Revelation 1:8

"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

This title for Jesus in Revelation conveys His divine nature and eternal presence throughout all time but does not use the specific term "eternal."

6. Hebrews 13:8
"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever."

This verse emphasizes the unchanging nature of Jesus, implying an eternal existence but without using "eternal" as a specific descriptor.

I am open for an honest conversation.

J.
 
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