Shema Israel and identifying Jesus as Jehovah/Yahweh

[TomL]

LORD does not belong in the OT=YHVH(Jehovah) is what God put at every spot Catholicism put LORD, and every spot-GOD( all capitols)is in the altered translations. Nearly 6800 spots. You are being mislead.

Sorry, there are no Greek manuscripts that have YHVH there

Your society has altered the word of God to suit themselves

BTW Your NWT reads

Rom 10:9 For if you publicly declare that 'word in your own mouth,' that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration for salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the Scripture says: "None that rests his faith on him will be disappointed."
Rom 10:12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for there is the same Lord over all, who is rich to all those calling upon him.

confirming Jesus is Lord

And even in verse 13 kurios (lord) appears in your Kingdom interlinear

Your version is corrupt and dishonest

 

[TomL]

The Greek word Proskeneu, has 5 different meanings from Greek to English-1) worship to God-2) obeisance to a king, 3 honor to a judge, and 2 others. Catholicism=( 2Thess 2:3) the son of peredition( great apostasy) put worship to one who has a God. Reality = obeisance to Gods appointed king is correct for Jesus. He has a God, God( Jehovah) does not have a God thus gets worship.

Told to worship Christ by mistranslating that Greek word. Obeisance is correct.

Sorry, you failed to deal with the fact that Angels who are higher than man are told by God to worship the son

Nowhere else can you see where angels are told to worship a man, whether he is a king or a judge.

 

[TomL]

The Greek word Proskeneu, has 5 different meanings from Greek to English-1) worship to God-2) obeisance to a king, 3 honor to a judge, and 2 others. Catholicism=( 2Thess 2:3) the son of peredition( great apostasy) put worship to one who has a God. Reality = obeisance to Gods appointed king is correct for Jesus. He has a God, God( Jehovah) does not have a God thus gets worship.

Are you to pray to anyone apart from God?

Do you realize Christians in the prayed to Jesus

Should men call on anyone but Jehovah for salvation?

Fact is, according to the bible, men are to call on Jesus for salvation.

 

[TomL]

The only Greek manuscripts are Catholicism translating. Catholicism removed Gods name against his will by satans will to mislead.

You have no evidence of any removing God's name from New Testament manuscripts.

And the practice of using kurios began with the Septuagint and that was not Roman Catholics

Correct your errors

 

[Keiw1]

Are you doing this


John 5:23 (NASB95) — 23 so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

if not, you are not honoring the Father

I do honor Jesus, by exercising faith in his ransom sacrifice, believing him over errors taught in the altered translations( Gods name removed in over 7000 places) obeying those teachings. And doing obeisance to my king.

 

[Keiw1]

Sorry, there are no Greek manuscripts that have YHVH there

Your society has altered the word of God to suit themselves

BTW Your NWT reads

Rom 10:9 For if you publicly declare that 'word in your own mouth,' that Jesus is Lord, and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration for salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the Scripture says: "None that rests his faith on him will be disappointed."
Rom 10:12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for there is the same Lord over all, who is rich to all those calling upon him.

confirming Jesus is Lord

And even in verse 13 kurios (lord) appears in your Kingdom interlinear

Your version is corrupt and dishonest

The OT was written in Hebrew. The only Greek manuscripts are from Catholicism translating. You better relook while there is time.

 

[Keiw1]

Sorry, you failed to deal with the fact that Angels who are higher than man are told by God to worship the son

Nowhere else can you see where angels are told to worship a man, whether he is a king or a judge.

Told to worship the son by Catholicism mistranslating a Greek word=100% fact=relook.

 

[Keiw1]

Are you to pray to anyone apart from God?

Do you realize Christians in the prayed to Jesus

Should men call on anyone but Jehovah for salvation?

Fact is, according to the bible, men are to call on Jesus for salvation.

None prayed to Jesus. Jesus is 100% clear--You MUST pray this way= our Father.

 

[Keiw1]

You have no evidence of any removing God's name from New Testament manuscripts.

And the practice of using kurios began with the Septuagint and that was not Roman Catholics

Correct your errors

The divine name kjv( 2015) studied facts on the matter( non JW sources) and put Gods name back in the NT over 200 places= every spot where OT is quoted and the name belongs. Its you being mislead who refuses to believe facts over error.
In the Lords prayer Jesus showed 100% his Fathers name is the #1 issue for all involved. Believe him if you follow him.

 

[TomL]

The divine name kjv( 2015) studied facts on the matter( non JW sources) and put Gods name back in the NT over 200 places= every spot where OT is quoted and the name belongs. Its you being mislead who refuses to believe facts over error.
In the Lords prayer Jesus showed 100% his Fathers name is the #1 issue for all involved. Believe him if you follow him.

There is no manuscript evidence for insertion of the name in certain NT scriptures where the watchtower chose to add it

 

[TomL]

None prayed to Jesus. Jesus is 100% clear--You MUST pray this way= our Father.

That is a Serious denial of the biblical record

1 Corinthians 1:2–3 (LEB) — 2 to the church of God sanctified in Christ Jesus that is in Corinth, called to be saints, together with all those who call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ in every place, their Lord and ours. 3 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 12:8–9 (LEB) — 8 Three times I appealed to the Lord about this, that it would depart from me. 9 And he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, because the power is perfected in weakness.” Therefore rather I will boast most gladly in my weaknesses, in order that the power of Christ may reside in me.

Acts 7:59–60 (LEB) — 59 And they kept on stoning Stephen as he was calling out and saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” 60 And falling to his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them!” And after he said this, he fell asleep.

1 John 5:13–15 (LEB) — 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life. 14 And this is the confidence that we have before him: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15 And if we know that he hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests that we have asked from him.

John 14:12–14 (LEB) — 12 Truly, truly I say to you, the one who believes in me, the works that I am doing he will do also, and he will do greater works than these because I am going to the Father. 13 And whatever you ask in my name, I will do this, in order that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.

Acts 1:21–25 (LEB) — 21 Therefore it is necessary for one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time in which the Lord Jesus went in and went out among us, 22 beginning from the baptism of John until the day on which he was taken up from us—one of these men must become a witness of his resurrection together with us.” 23 And they proposed two men, Joseph called Barsabbas (who was called Justus) and Matthias. 24 And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show clearly which one of these two you have chosen 25 to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to depart to his own place.”


Why do you not believe God's word?

 

[TomL]

Told to worship the son by Catholicism mistranslating a Greek word=100% fact=relook.

Sorry you have no biblical example of Angels worshiping or doing obeisance to a man

 

[TomL]

The OT was written in Hebrew. The only Greek manuscripts are from Catholicism translating. You better relook while there is time.

Ignorance

Catholics did not create the Septuagint Jews did

 

[TomL]

I do honor Jesus, by exercising faith in his ransom sacrifice, believing him over errors taught in the altered translations( Gods name removed in over 7000 places) obeying those teachings. And doing obeisance to my king.

You are failing to obey the father

by not doing this


John 5:23 (NASB95) — 23 so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

 

[Keiw1]

There is no manuscript evidence for insertion of the name in certain NT scriptures where the watchtower chose to add it

Says those who live in darkness. Because The JW,s are correct and expose those religions as false.

 

[Keiw1]

That is a Serious denial of the biblical record

1 Corinthians 1:2–3 (LEB) — 2 to the church of God sanctified in Christ Jesus that is in Corinth, called to be saints, together with all those who call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ in every place, their Lord and ours. 3 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 12:8–9 (LEB) — 8 Three times I appealed to the Lord about this, that it would depart from me. 9 And he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, because the power is perfected in weakness.” Therefore rather I will boast most gladly in my weaknesses, in order that the power of Christ may reside in me.

Acts 7:59–60 (LEB) — 59 And they kept on stoning Stephen as he was calling out and saying, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” 60 And falling to his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them!” And after he said this, he fell asleep.

1 John 5:13–15 (LEB) — 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life. 14 And this is the confidence that we have before him: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15 And if we know that he hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests that we have asked from him.

John 14:12–14 (LEB) — 12 Truly, truly I say to you, the one who believes in me, the works that I am doing he will do also, and he will do greater works than these because I am going to the Father. 13 And whatever you ask in my name, I will do this, in order that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.

Acts 1:21–25 (LEB) — 21 Therefore it is necessary for one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time in which the Lord Jesus went in and went out among us, 22 beginning from the baptism of John until the day on which he was taken up from us—one of these men must become a witness of his resurrection together with us.” 23 And they proposed two men, Joseph called Barsabbas (who was called Justus) and Matthias. 24 And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show clearly which one of these two you have chosen 25 to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to depart to his own place.”


Why do you not believe God's word?

Calling on his name is not praying to him.
All prayers go to the Father through Jesus' name.

 

[Keiw1]

Ignorance

Catholics did not create the Septuagint Jews did

Jerome refused to use the septuagint because the version by then was corrupted. Every scholar on Earth knows 100% Gods name belongs in every spot of OT where GOD and LORD are in the altered translations-quoted over 200 times in the NT.

 

[Keiw1]

You are failing to obey the father

by not doing this


John 5:23 (NASB95) — 23 so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

My post is 100% the Fathers will.

 

[TomL]

My post is 100% the Fathers will.

You failed to obey him here

John 5:23 (NASB95) — 23 so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

 

[TomL]

Jerome refused to use the septuagint because the version by then was corrupted. Every scholar on Earth knows 100% Gods name belongs in every spot of OT where GOD and LORD are in the altered translations-quoted over 200 times in the NT.

Sorry, you have no idea what every scholar knows or even what constitutes a scholar and your Watchtower society has quoted a spiritist, a heretic who Christianity for support and still has not had New Testament Manuscripts which support their claims

BTW Jerome rejected the Septuagint because it contained deuterocanonicals

Further The Septuagint is the Old Testament that the apostles, and Jesus himself used and read and quoted from in the NT.