"Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord” (Romans 10:9–13)

[brightfame52]

If He did, then tell me...does Israel possess and occupy this land?

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You late pal,

God has already fulfilled the physical national land promise to Israel, Abes physical seed,
Joshua 21 43-45

43 And the Lord gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein.

44 And the Lord gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the Lord delivered all their enemies into their hand.

45 There failed not ought of any good thing which the Lord had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You late pal,

God has already fulfilled the physical national land promise to Israel, Abes physical seed,
Joshua 21 43-45

43 And the Lord gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein.

44 And the Lord gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the Lord delivered all their enemies into their hand.

45 There failed not ought of any good thing which the Lord had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.

 

[Keiw1]

“CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH THAT JESUS IS LORD” (ROMANS 10:9–13)

In Romans, Paul writes, “If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved” (Rom. 10:9–10). In this famous text, which Christians often use when encouraging others to come to Christ for salvation, the apostle states that the saving confession is that “Jesus is Lord” (kyrios) and “that God raised him from the dead.” The confession “Jesus (Christ) is Lord” appears elsewhere in Paul’s epistles (1 Cor. 12:3; Phil. 2:11; cf. 2 Cor. 4:5) and in Acts in slightly different form (Acts 10:36), suggesting that it was likely a pre-Pauline confession familiar generally to Christians in his day. As Paul does regularly in his epistles, he refers in Romans 10 to Jesus as “Lord” and to the Father as “God.” That these are both divine titles in Paul’s usage will become clear as we proceed.3
Paul then states, “For the Scripture says, ‘Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame’ ” (v. 11). The word “for” (Greek, gar) indicates that Paul is citing this Old Testament reference as support for the statement he has just made about believing in Jesus as the risen Lord. The text is Isaiah 28:16, which Paul has just quoted earlier in the same passage: “They [unbelieving Israel] have stumbled over the stumbling stone, as it is written, ‘Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense; and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame’ ” (Rom. 9:32b–33). (This is an example of an important principle of biblical interpretation: ignore chapter divisions!) Of course, Jesus is the “stumbling stone” and “rock of offense” in whom those Jews failed to believe for their salvation (see also Matt. 21:42–44; Mark 12:10–12; Luke 20:17–18; Acts 4:10–12; 1 Peter 2:6–8; cf. Eph. 2:20). Paul’s earlier use of Isaiah 28:16 confirms that “him” in Romans 10:11 refers to Jesus, who was just called “him” in verse 9:

If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him [auton] from the dead.… For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him [autō] will not be put to shame.” (Rom. 10:9, 11)

Next, Paul writes, “For [gar] there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for [gar] the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him” (Rom. 10:12 NASB). Paul uses the conjunction gar twice here to signal that each successive statement provides justification for the one preceding. The reason why everyone who believes in Jesus will not be put to shame is that no distinction is made in this matter of salvation between Jew and non-Jew (“Greek”). Further, the reason why no distinction is made between Jew and Greek is that the same one is Lord (kyrios) “of all,” that is, of all people including Jews and Greeks.
As the italicized Lord in the NASB indicates, the Greek text actually uses the word kyrios here just once in verse 12. The Greek clause is usually translated “the same [Lord] is Lord of all” (LEB; NASB; cf. ESV, NRSV, etc.) or “the same Lord over all” (CSB, KJV, NKJV). Paul’s train of thought is essentially unaffected by this issue. In this context, the “Lord” here must be Jesus, the one just called “Lord” in verse 9. The argument chain using gar to link each statement from verse 9 down to verse 12 makes this clear. Paul uses the same pronoun autos used to mean “him” (i.e., Jesus) in verses 9 and 11, here in verse 12 with the definite article, meaning “the same [one].” Paul cannot be referring to this Lord as “the same” Lord if he is a different Lord than the one he has just mentioned!
Paul states that this same Lord, Jesus, is rich to save “all who call on him.” As we have already noted, calling on Jesus as Lord is an act of prayer, something the book of Acts says Paul himself did when he was baptized (Acts 9:14, 21; 22:16).
Paul then backs up what he is saying with another Scripture reference: “For [gar] ‘everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved’ ” (Rom. 10:13). This reference is Joel 2:32 (3:5 LXX), the same text that Peter quoted in the first Christian sermon (Acts 2:21). As we saw there, Peter applied Joel 2:32 to calling on Jesus Christ as Lord in baptism (Acts 2:38). Paul does exactly the same thing here in Romans 10, and in a more compressed, tightly argued manner. In context here, the “Lord” on whose name everyone calls for salvation (v. 13) must be “the same” one who is “Lord of all” and who is rich to save everyone who calls on him (v. 12). Since that Lord is Jesus (vv. 9–11), Paul’s quotation in verse 13 is clearly identifying Jesus as the “Lord” of Joel 2:32—who in the Hebrew text is called YHWH, or Jehovah.
Romans 10:12 is the crucial turning point in Paul’s argument chain, and as a result over the years it has particularly vexed Jehovah’s Witnesses, who insist that Jesus is not Jehovah. In a 1977 article, the Watchtower magazine admits the difficulty:

Romans 10:9 definitely refers to Jesus Christ as Lord, and the quotation from Isaiah 28:16 found in Romans 10:11, “None that rests his faith on him will be disappointed,” also applies to Jesus. So if Romans 10:11 is to be directly linked with the Lord of Romans 10:12, the Lord referred to is Jesus Christ.

Of course, Romans 10:11 and 10:12 are directly linked, as we have just explained. But this poses a problem for the Watchtower Society, which is committed to translating kyrios as “Jehovah” in all Old Testament quotations where the Hebrew text has the name YHWH. Such is the case in the very next verse, as the Watchtower article explains:

Furthermore, Romans 10:13, a quotation from Joel 2:32, reads: “For ‘everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.’ ” Hence, if the calling on the Lord referred to in Romans 10:12 is the same as in Romans 10:13, Jehovah God is the Lord being referred to by Paul.

Based on the Society’s view of the divine name and its rejection of the identity of Jesus as Jehovah, the NWT renders kyrios as “Lord” in Romans 10:9, 12, but as “Jehovah” in 10:13. As we explained earlier (pp. 470–73), the manuscript evidence is overwhelmingly and unanimously against this supposed “restoration” of the divine name in Romans 10:13 or any other New Testament text. Moreover, the Watchtower’s dogmatic assumption that Paul must have meant to refer either to “the Lord Jesus Christ or the Lord Jehovah,” but not both, creates an exegetical difficulty for them in verse 12. Hence, the Watchtower article claims that the interpretation of Romans 10:12 was uncertain: “The identity of the one referred to as ‘Lord’ cannot be established with certainty from the context.” The Society repeats this material almost verbatim in its current Study Edition of the Bible. The identity of the one called “Lord” in Romans 10:12, however, is certainly Jesus Christ—leading to the conclusion that Paul does indeed identify Jesus as the Lord YHWH in 10:13.


J. Ed Komoszewski and Robert M. Bowman Jr., The Incarnate Christ and His Critics: A Biblical Defense (Grand Rapids, MI: Kregel Academic, 2024), 485–488.

Paul was speaking of the real Jesus.
You are mistaken-Wicked men put Kyrios in the OT. God put his name in the OT in nearly 6800 spots because he wants it there. Those in darkness keep it out.

 

[Pancho Frijoles]

Again,

jewish fables,

Even though the Abrahamic Covenant did make some promises to Abrahams physical seed, like the physical land promise, which God has fulfilled, thats now history, yet the primary of it is Spiritual and Mystical finding its fulfillment in Christ and His Spiritual Seed Gal 3:8,16,29

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Note: The Covenant was always international in scope covering all nations

Yet you don't think that "all nations shall be blessed", but just some elected people within those nations.
The positions of @jeremiah1five and yours are just variants of the same absurdity: that God created some people to have no hope to be reached by his grace, so that they could be either destroyed or tortured day and night forever.

Time to reach out to the 5-year-old kids attending Sunday School. They know better.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Yet you don't think that "all nations shall be blessed", but just some elected people within those nations.
The positions of @jeremiah1five and yours are just variants of the same absurdity: that God created some people to have no hope to be reached by his grace, so that they could be either destroyed or tortured day and night forever.

Time to reach out to the 5-year-old kids attending Sunday School. They know better.

Yes, they probably know these as well:

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
Ro 9:14–23.

 

[TomL]

Yes, they probably know these as well:

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
Ro 9:14–23.

The reference to verse 21 at

Jeremiah 18:5–13 (LEB) — 5 And the word of Yahweh came to me, saying, 6 “Like this potter, am I not able to do to you, O house of Israel?” declares Yahweh. “Look, like the clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. 7 One moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to uproot, and to tear down, and to destroy it. 8 But if that nation turns back from its evil that I have threatened against it, then I will relent concerning the disaster that I planned to do to it. 9 And the next moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to build, and to plant it. 10 But if it does evil in my sight, to not listen to my voice, then I will relent concerning the good that I said I would do to it. 11 “So now then, say, please, to the people of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh, “Look, I am preparing evil against you, and I am planning a plan against you. Please turn back, each one from his evil way, and walk rightly in your ways and your deeds.” ’ 12 But they will say, ‘It is hopeless, for we will go after our own plans, and each one of us will act according to the stubbornness of his evil heart.’ 13 “Therefore thus says Yahweh, ‘Please ask among the nations, “Who has heard the like of this?” The virgin of Israel has done something very horrible.

Shows the idea is not that God determines their actions

and then this

2 Timothy 2:20–21 (LEB) — 20 Now in a great house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also wooden and earthenware ones, some of which are for honorable use, and some of which are for ordinary use. 21 Therefore, if someone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work.

 

[jeremiah1five]

The reference to verse 21 at

Jeremiah 18:5–13 (LEB) — 5 And the word of Yahweh came to me, saying, 6 “Like this potter, am I not able to do to you, O house of Israel?” declares Yahweh. “Look, like the clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. 7 One moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to uproot, and to tear down, and to destroy it. 8 But if that nation turns back from its evil that I have threatened against it, then I will relent concerning the disaster that I planned to do to it. 9 And the next moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to build, and to plant it. 10 But if it does evil in my sight, to not listen to my voice, then I will relent concerning the good that I said I would do to it. 11 “So now then, say, please, to the people of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh, “Look, I am preparing evil against you, and I am planning a plan against you. Please turn back, each one from his evil way, and walk rightly in your ways and your deeds.” ’ 12 But they will say, ‘It is hopeless, for we will go after our own plans, and each one of us will act according to the stubbornness of his evil heart.’ 13 “Therefore thus says Yahweh, ‘Please ask among the nations, “Who has heard the like of this?” The virgin of Israel has done something very horrible.

Shows the idea is not that God determines their actions

and then this

2 Timothy 2:20–21 (LEB) — 20 Now in a great house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also wooden and earthenware ones, some of which are for honorable use, and some of which are for ordinary use. 21 Therefore, if someone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work.

You lost me.

 

[TomL]

You lost me.

Why?

Romans 9:21 (NASB95) — 21 Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?

references the Old Testament

Jeremiah 18:5–13 (LEB) — 5 And the word of Yahweh came to me, saying, 6 “Like this potter, am I not able to do to you, O house of Israel?” declares Yahweh. “Look, like the clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. 7 One moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to uproot, and to tear down, and to destroy it. 8 But if that nation turns back from its evil that I have threatened against it, then I will relent concerning the disaster that I planned to do to it. 9 And the next moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to build, and to plant it. 10 But if it does evil in my sight, to not listen to my voice, then I will relent concerning the good that I said I would do to it. 11 “So now then, say, please, to the people of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh, “Look, I am preparing evil against you, and I am planning a plan against you. Please turn back, each one from his evil way, and walk rightly in your ways and your deeds.” ’ 12 But they will say, ‘It is hopeless, for we will go after our own plans, and each one of us will act according to the stubbornness of his evil heart.’ 13 “Therefore thus says Yahweh, ‘Please ask among the nations, “Who has heard the like of this?” The virgin of Israel has done something very horrible.

Shows the idea is not that God determines their actions

and this passage

2 Timothy 2:20–21 (LEB) — 20 Now in a great house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also wooden and earthenware ones, some of which are for honorable use, and some of which are for ordinary use. 21 Therefore, if someone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work.

Shows man himself, if he cleanses himself from these, will be a vessel for honorable use.

So the disobedient Israelites of Romans 9 though God had originally chosen for a noble use were employed by God in a dishonorable manner

 

[jeremiah1five]

Why?

Romans 9:21 (NASB95) — 21 Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?

references the Old Testament

Jeremiah 18:5–13 (LEB) — 5 And the word of Yahweh came to me, saying, 6 “Like this potter, am I not able to do to you, O house of Israel?” declares Yahweh. “Look, like the clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. 7 One moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to uproot, and to tear down, and to destroy it. 8 But if that nation turns back from its evil that I have threatened against it, then I will relent concerning the disaster that I planned to do to it. 9 And the next moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to build, and to plant it. 10 But if it does evil in my sight, to not listen to my voice, then I will relent concerning the good that I said I would do to it. 11 “So now then, say, please, to the people of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh, “Look, I am preparing evil against you, and I am planning a plan against you. Please turn back, each one from his evil way, and walk rightly in your ways and your deeds.” ’ 12 But they will say, ‘It is hopeless, for we will go after our own plans, and each one of us will act according to the stubbornness of his evil heart.’ 13 “Therefore thus says Yahweh, ‘Please ask among the nations, “Who has heard the like of this?” The virgin of Israel has done something very horrible.

Shows the idea is not that God determines their actions

and this passage

2 Timothy 2:20–21 (LEB) — 20 Now in a great house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also wooden and earthenware ones, some of which are for honorable use, and some of which are for ordinary use. 21 Therefore, if someone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work.

Shows man himself, if he cleanses himself from these, will be a vessel for honorable use.

So the disobedient Israelites of Romans 9 though God had originally chosen for a noble use were employed by God in a dishonorable manner

Cleanses himself of what?

 

[TomL]

Cleanses himself of what?

Context

2 Timothy 2:14–22 (UASV) — 14 Remind them of these things and bearing thorough witness in the sight of God not to fight about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers. 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. 16 But avoid empty speeches that violate what is holy, for they will lead to more and more ungodliness, 17 and their word will spread like gangrene; Hymenaeus and Philetus are among them. 18 men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and they upset the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to withdraw from unrighteousness.” 20 Now in a large house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also vessels of wood and of earthenware, and some to honor and some to dishonor. 21 Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the master, prepared for every good work. 22 Now flee from youthful desires and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart.

How is it not clear man is involved in being used as a vessal of honor

 

[jeremiah1five]

Context

2 Timothy 2:14–22 (UASV) — 14 Remind them of these things and bearing thorough witness in the sight of God not to fight about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers. 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. 16 But avoid empty speeches that violate what is holy, for they will lead to more and more ungodliness, 17 and their word will spread like gangrene; Hymenaeus and Philetus are among them. 18 men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and they upset the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to withdraw from unrighteousness.” 20 Now in a large house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also vessels of wood and of earthenware, and some to honor and some to dishonor. 21 Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the master, prepared for every good work. 22 Now flee from youthful desires and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart.

How is it not clear man is involved in being used as a vessal of honor

It's not a sure thing.

For every person on the planet sin is factored in by God.

We only become what God ordained for us in life. But all kinds of factors figure in any given life.
I can't be an astronaut because I'm afraid of heights (and only God knows if being taken UP in a rapture will traumatize me and scar me?)
I can't be a Beethoven because I never learned to read scales/music.
I can't be an oilman because I don't like dirt under my fingernails.
I can only be what God has ordained me to be in life.
Oh, if I could only take what I know now and put it in me when I was fourteen!
And why is it called shipment if it travels by car? Or why is it called cargo if it travels by ship?
I can't be a Vincent Van Gogh because I don't like razors!
And I don't like my hair askew in order to be an Einstein.
Ha!
I don't always get what I want, I get what I need?
Will you still need me, will you still feed me when I'm 64?
Wait! I am 64. I need a hug, and a taco.

 

[Behold]

In Romans, Paul writes, “If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord

The verse does not say that.........It says ... ""That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus"""", not that Jesus is Lord, as the Lordship Salvation heretics like to rewrite the verse to suit their CULT.

See, when we confess our faith in Christ, we are "confessing the Lord Jesus"........ we are CLAIMING Him with out faith, out of our mouth.

 

[Fred]

The verse does not say that.........It says ... ""That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus"""", not that Jesus is Lord, as the Lordship Salvation heretics like to rewrite the verse to suit their CULT.

See, when we confess our faith in Christ, we are "confessing the Lord Jesus"........ we are CLAIMING Him with out faith, out of our mouth.

Isn't understood this way?

We are confessing, the Lord Jesus.

That is, Jesus is Lord.

 

[TomL]

The verse does not say that.........It says ... ""That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus"""", not that Jesus is Lord, as the Lordship Salvation heretics like to rewrite the verse to suit their CULT.

See, when we confess our faith in Christ, we are "confessing the Lord Jesus"........ we are CLAIMING Him with out faith, out of our mouth.

UM
Romans 10:9 (UASV) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 10:9 (LEB) — 9 that if you confess with your mouth “Jesus is Lord” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

 

[TomL]

It's not a sure thing.

For every person on the planet sin is factored in by God.

We only become what God ordained for us in life. But all kinds of factors figure in any given life.
I can't be an astronaut because I'm afraid of heights (and only God knows if being taken UP in a rapture will traumatize me and scar me?)
I can't be a Beethoven because I never learned to read scales/music.
I can't be an oilman because I don't like dirt under my fingernails.
I can only be what God has ordained me to be in life.
Oh, if I could only take what I know now and put it in me when I was fourteen!
And why is it called shipment if it travels by car? Or why is it called cargo if it travels by ship?
I can't be a Vincent Van Gogh because I don't like razors!
And I don't like my hair askew in order to be an Einstein.
Ha!
I don't always get what I want, I get what I need?
Will you still need me, will you still feed me when I'm 64?
Wait! I am 64. I need a hug, and a taco.

sorry no

The verse clearly states

2 Timothy 2:20–21 (LEB) — 20 Now in a great house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also wooden and earthenware ones, some of which are for honorable use, and some of which are for ordinary use. 21 Therefore, if someone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work.

If man cleanses himself from these he will be a vessel for honorable use

and Jeremiah shows

Jeremiah 18:5–12 (LEB) — 5 And the word of Yahweh came to me, saying, 6 “Like this potter, am I not able to do to you, O house of Israel?” declares Yahweh. “Look, like the clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. 7 One moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to uproot, and to tear down, and to destroy it. 8 But if that nation turns back from its evil that I have threatened against it, then I will relent concerning the disaster that I planned to do to it. 9 And the next moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to build, and to plant it. 10 But if it does evil in my sight, to not listen to my voice, then I will relent concerning the good that I said I would do to it. 11 “So now then, say, please, to the people of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh, “Look, I am preparing evil against you, and I am planning a plan against you. Please turn back, each one from his evil way, and walk rightly in your ways and your deeds.” ’ 12 But they will say, ‘It is hopeless, for we will go after our own plans, and each one of us will act according to the stubbornness of his evil heart.’

God ultimately blesses or curses based upon the response of man

 

[jeremiah1five]

sorry no

The verse clearly states

2 Timothy 2:20–21 (LEB) — 20 Now in a great house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also wooden and earthenware ones, some of which are for honorable use, and some of which are for ordinary use. 21 Therefore, if someone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work.

If man cleanses himself from these he will be a vessel for honorable use

and Jeremiah shows

Jeremiah 18:5–12 (LEB) — 5 And the word of Yahweh came to me, saying, 6 “Like this potter, am I not able to do to you, O house of Israel?” declares Yahweh. “Look, like the clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. 7 One moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to uproot, and to tear down, and to destroy it. 8 But if that nation turns back from its evil that I have threatened against it, then I will relent concerning the disaster that I planned to do to it. 9 And the next moment I speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom, to build, and to plant it. 10 But if it does evil in my sight, to not listen to my voice, then I will relent concerning the good that I said I would do to it. 11 “So now then, say, please, to the people of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, ‘Thus says Yahweh, “Look, I am preparing evil against you, and I am planning a plan against you. Please turn back, each one from his evil way, and walk rightly in your ways and your deeds.” ’ 12 But they will say, ‘It is hopeless, for we will go after our own plans, and each one of us will act according to the stubbornness of his evil heart.’

God ultimately blesses or curses based upon the response of man

Cleanses himself from what?
Any cleansing that matters with God is a cleansing that only He can perform through the Holy Spirit and that cleansing is from sin.
Everything else doesn't matter. Not baptism in water, not confessing with your mouth, nothing at all.
So what cleansing are you talking about?