Scripture teaches that Jesus was not involved in his resurrection

[dwight92070]

Which doesn't negate the truth of what it is conveying.

Exactly, even if it is a prophecy, Jesus is prophesying that He will raise up His own body from the dead, which He did. Yes, God also raised Jesus up. "I and the Father are One." And yes, of course it is a doctrine.

But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to our mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. God will also raise up through HIs Spirit. So just like Jesus' conception and His baptism, each of the persons of the trinity was involved in His resurrection.

 

[dwight92070]

Just as all cultists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormon's, Christian Science, Runningham doesn't choose to believe all of the Scripture, or he relies on the twisted interpretation of the NWT.

 

[Runningman]

Just as all cultists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormon's, Christian Science, Runningham doesn't choose to believe all of the Scripture, or he relies on the twisted interpretation of the NWT.

I've never read the NWT.

In any case, back to the OP. I see no one has been able to prove Jesus resurrected himself from the dead yet.

I want to hear from every Trinitarian on this forum. Please show us one verse where anyone said Jesus resurrected himself after he died. Please and thank you!

 

[Fred]

I've never read the NWT.

Yes, you have.

Post in thread 'Do you know the real Jesus?'

Oct 22, 2024

Sorry i gave you the text.

Do you have anything which actually denies the text

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even oone thing came into existence. What has come into existence

your own scripture refutes you

While I am not a JW, I will look at this verse in the NWT. It's quite similar to other versions like the NIV or KJV. It debunks the Word being the Creator. It says the Word with God in verse 2 then in verse 3 the pronoun "him" refers to the closest noun. That would mean the Word is not the one being referred to as the one all...

• Runningman

 

[Runningman]

Yes, you have.

Post in thread 'Do you know the real Jesus?'

Oct 22, 2024

Sorry i gave you the text.

Do you have anything which actually denies the text

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even oone thing came into existence. What has come into existence

your own scripture refutes you

While I am not a JW, I will look at this verse in the NWT. It's quite similar to other versions like the NIV or KJV. It debunks the Word being the Creator. It says the Word with God in verse 2 then in verse 3 the pronoun "him" refers to the closest noun. That would mean the Word is not the one being referred to as the one all...

• Runningman

Then you bear false witness. I have never read the whole thing. Reading a verse that someone has put in front of my face is not the same thing as reading the NWT.

 

[Fred]

Then you bear false witness. I have never read the whole thing.

You changed the goalposts in your second sentence.

 

[Runningman]

You changed the goalposts in your second sentence.

How petty. Tom showed me a verse from his NWT and of course I read that, but I have never used the NWT as a resource. I have never read it either actively nor casually. Normally I read the KJV, NIV, ESV, BSB, or something similar. Some of those Bible actually have a heavy Trinitarian lean to them (you can gauage a Bible by whether or not they strip Jesus of his begotten son status and turn him into an idol in John 1:18)

 

[Fred]

How petty. Tom showed me a verse from his NWT and of course I read that, but I have never used the NWT as a resource. I have never read it either actively nor casually. Normally I read the KJV, NIV, ESV, BSB, or something similar. Some of those Bible actually have a heavy Trinitarian lean to them (you can gauage a Bible by whether or not they strip Jesus of his begotten son status and turn him into an idol in John 1:18)

You are getting more specific by the post.

How unimpressive.

 

[Runningman]

You are getting more specific by the post.

How unimpressive.

I've never read the NWT. Who cares anyway. Next.