PSA as central to the Gospel

civic said:
The Bible never says Adam eve were forgiven or repented

In fact everything in scripture said about them after the fall is negative
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Truly the fall is not just "negative", but as you know = DEADLY

We will not find out about Adam & Eve until we get to Heaven and more is revealed.

However, we have the same Word that was God in the Beginning.

This same Word walked with Adam & Eve in the Garden.

This same Word bestowed His grace upon them after they sinned.

Hebrews 13:8 - "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever!!!"
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
Here is a conversation this entire site better have real fast .
THE TURNING POINT now led by ERIKA kirk .
men like vance , men who have promoted interfaith and his wife is a hindu
I am telling us all that the very lie THAT THE RCC has been preaching
IS COMING ON IN within that movement . THIS IS A SET UP . its all a set up .
Ecumenicism dont lead to CHRIST , IT led only to SIE MOTHER HARLOT and to the lie .
the lie that merges all not in the lambs book of life to be as one people , one mind
one agenda .
WE been decieved big time . The planter of tares HAS COME WITHIN
and now has sowed the fields of christendom with many many tares
who do nothing but use the name OF JESUS
to lead this people TO A LIE .
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Though at one time "we" were all deceived, the New 'we' are walking in the Light just as HE is the Light
This is possible for all whom God calls = Only, Only, Only, when 'we' believe "every word that comes out of the mouth of God"

When a saved brother or sister declares God's words "fallacy", that person(s) remains in darkness.
Though they are saved they suffer under partial blindness of the Holy Scriptures.
But, if one who claims to know Him, yet denies His words of the Way the Truth and the Life, then He has not come to the LIGHT.
 
DavidTree said:
Truly the fall is not just "negative", but as you know = DEADLY

We will not find out about Adam & Eve until we get to Heaven and more is revealed.

However, we have the same Word that was God in the Beginning.

This same Word walked with Adam & Eve in the Garden.

This same Word bestowed His grace upon them after they sinned.

Hebrews 13:8 - "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever!!!"
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Nothing in the Bible says that as I stated everything about them is negative unlike many others who fell , sinned repented and good things are said about those people. Moses, Abraham, David sins which were repented of and good things are said about them in scripture unlike Adam , Eve .

You are adding to scripture once again
 
civic said:
Nothing in the Bible says that as I stated everything about them is negative unlike many others who fell , sinned repented and good things are said about those people. Moses, Abraham, David sins which were repented of and good things are said about them in scripture unlike Adam , Eve .

You are adding to scripture once again
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Do you not know that the same negativity can be applied to yourself as it was to Adam & Eve.
Why have you stooped down to the low level of bearing false witness?
Is it not because of your obedience to religion of men, whereby the words of God become mere words to be denied at will.

In the Holy Spirit Truth there is blessed assurance of hope recorded in the scriptures for Adam and Eve.

More is to be revealed when we get to Heaven.
 
DavidTree said:
Do you not know that the same negativity can be applied to yourself as it was to Adam & Eve.
Why have you stooped down to the low level of bearing false witness?
Is it not because of your obedience to religion of men, whereby the words of God become mere words to be denied at will.

In the Holy Spirit Truth there is blessed assurance of hope recorded in the scriptures for Adam and Eve.

More is to be revealed when we get to Heaven.
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I’m not in the Bible like Adam Eve , prophets both good and evil ones, kings both good and evil ones and Apostles/ disciples both good and evil ones such as Judas.

Next fallacy
 
civic said:
I’m not in the Bible like Adam Eve , prophets both good and evil ones, kings both good and evil ones and Apostles/ disciples both good and evil ones such as Judas.

Next fallacy
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If you are in Christ, then you, as a man created in the image of God, are in the Bible = for bad 1st and because of Christ in you, now for Good!!!
 
DavidTree said:
If you are in Christ, then you, as a man created in the image of God, are in the Bible = for bad 1st and because of Christ in you, now for Good!!!
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Nope I’m not a person named in the Bible like Adam, Eve, Noah , Moses , David, Saul, Samuel, John the Baptist, Mary, Joseph , Peter, James , John, Judas, Paul, Barnabas , Timothy, Titus, Jude , etc

Comprehende amigo ?
 
civic said:
It would be the epitome of arrogance , ego and pride to think otherwise
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epitome and arrogance and ego/pride is when we deny God's words


"Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice,
because your names are written in heaven."

"Looking to JESUS the Author and Finisher of Faith"

"But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish,
that I may gain Christ and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead."
 
DavidTree said:
epitome and arrogance and ego/pride is when we deny God's words


"Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice,
because your names are written in heaven."

"Looking to JESUS the Author and Finisher of Faith"

"But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish,
that I may gain Christ and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead."
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Like I said your name is not mentioned thanks for confirming that fact
 
DavidTree said:
Do you not know that the same negativity can be applied to yourself as it was to Adam & Eve.
Why have you stooped down to the low level of bearing false witness?
Is it not because of your obedience to religion of men, whereby the words of God become mere words to be denied at will.

In the Holy Spirit Truth there is blessed assurance of hope recorded in the scriptures for Adam and Eve.

More is to be revealed when we get to Heaven.
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God clothed them with animal skins . and notice
they must have understood this as a covering for sin .
Because later we see both cain and abel bringing offerings
Abel was accepted , animal sacrifce
cain was rejected .
What did GOD tell EVE . about HER SEED . THE SEED that would crush the serpents head .
SO yeah i surely do beleive adam and eve KNEW what was coming and had faith in that SEED .
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
God clothed them with animal skins . and notice
they must have understood this as a covering for sin .
Because later we see both cain and abel bringing offerings
Abel was accepted , animal sacrifce
cain was rejected .
What did GOD tell EVE . about HER SEED . THE SEED that would crush the serpents head .
SO yeah i surely do beleive adam and eve KNEW what was coming and had faith in that SEED .
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Grace, grace, God's grace,
Grace that will pardon and cleanse within;
Grace, grace, God's grace,
Grace that is greater than all our sin!
 
@civic
civic said:
The Bible never says Adam eve were forgiven or repented

In fact everything in scripture said about them after the fall is negative
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I know there's a debate concerning Adam and Eve, yet I find it very hard that God did not forgive them, after all, Cain knew how to please God and that had to come from his father and mother, there is not a word that leads us to believe that the knowledge of God was not on the earth through Adam and Eve after the fall. Their sin was terrible, but it was not the unpardonable sin. I find it very hard to believe our first parents who came directly from the hand of God by creation, did not not remember their Creator after their fall into sin. I believe in total depravity, but you are taking this to another level!
 
Red Baker said:
@civic

I know there's a debate concerning Adam and Eve, yet I find it very hard that God did not forgive them, after all, Cain knew how to please God and that had to come from his father and mother, there is not a word that leads us to believe that the knowledge of God was not on the earth through Adam and Eve after the fall. Their sin was terrible, but it was not the unpardonable sin. I find it very hard to believe our first parents who came directly from the hand of God by creation, did not not remember their Creator after their fall into sin. I believe in total depravity, but you are taking this to another level!
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all one has is conjecture at best and an argument from silence.

why believe what the bible does not say ?

finding something "hard" to believe in no way makes it true.
 

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