propitiation

You just cant receive the truth.
And you can’t rebut my argument scripturally or linguistically. Your argumentation is very similar to how the JWs respond to objections to their claims; they just repeat the same thing over and over again because they don’t know how to deal directly with the scripture itself.

Doug
 
And you can’t rebut my argument scripturally or linguistically. Your argumentation is very similar to how the JWs respond to objections to their claims; they just repeat the same thing over and over again because they don’t know how to deal directly with the scripture itself.

Doug
My point hasn't been refuted. The elect are reconciled to God while in unbelief Rom 5:10, so they are never under Gods wrath or condemned while in disobedience. Now the non elect are Jn 3:18,36
 
Once again, if people understood exactly what propitiation means, its would be clear that 1 Jn 2:2 couldn't apply to everyone without exception. To say so just manifest willful denseness of biblical truth. They dont understand that Christs death/blood satisficed, put an end to Gods Wrath against them. In fact it completely reconciled them to God Rom 5:10. This is what propitiation details. Gods demand for punishment for their sins have been met, sins have come to a end Dan 9:24

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

That word reconciliation means propitiate as well and as you can see its grouped with making an end of sins !

The hebrew word kapar also denotes a purging away of sins Ps 79:9

Help us, O God of our salvation, for the glory of thy name: and deliver us, and purge away our sins, for thy name's sake.

Again that's the same word for reconciliation in Dan 9:24 which also means to propitiate, to make an end of sins. All these things are in the biblical meaning of propitiation in 1 Jn 2:2. Christ by His death alone, for them He died, purged away their sins Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

Thats propitiation, thats salvation from sin Matt 1:21 !
 
Its illogical and senseless to read into 1 Jn 2:2 that Christ is the propitiation to God for the whole world of individuals since its purpose was to eliminate Gods anger. So in fact Christs death propitiated Gods righteous anger, rendering Him a gracious favorable disposition for everyone Christ died. But yet we know His Holy Wrath is against many Jn 3:36

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Now if Christ has propitiated God for them, that's a contradiction in God which we know isn't possible !
 
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