praise_yeshua
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Why restrict the evidence to Acts 4? Are you really ignorant that the Crucifixion is mentioned in many books in the Bible?
God doesn't plan evil things. Men do.
Did these mentioned in Acts 4 accomplish their goal?
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God doesn't plan evil things. Men do.
Did these mentioned in Acts 4 accomplish their goal?
civic
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Just like they restrict draw to John 6:44. Eisegesis
The Rogue Tomato
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Eisegesis is what false messiah Jar Jar Binks would say.
civic
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projecting
The Rogue Tomato
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I'm plotting the flight path of my joke. It was 30,000 ft over your head.
You were referring to two separate plans. The kings and God's. There is no mention of a separate plan in Acts 4:26. Good try though
What part of the crucifixion was not part of what was determined, planned and brought about by God's plan? Going twice
praise_yeshua
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I quoted what you said. You're rightfully rephrasing. No need to try to make it into anything else.
And your running from what you said. Where do you see a plan in verse 26?
praise_yeshua
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1. I've already answered you many times now. The evil intent of man's plan. I've said it several times now and you're pretending I haven't.
God didn't "cause nor determine" to punish His own Son. Many thing happen in this life that are not caused/determined by God. Man operates freely within the confines of nature. Just like you're operating in "the flesh" right now. That which is flesh is flesh. You're flesh. You cause evil. God has never determined nor caused evil. That is your filthy theology.
Once you actually deal with this, I will move on to others.
praise_yeshua
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Act 4:26 The kings of the earth stood together, and the rulers assembled together,
Men "stood together". "rulers assembled".
That is a plan
civic
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Yep
right in front of his eyes but as we see he is in De Nile. He thinks reading the same question is an apologetic but as we know it’s nothing but an excuse.1) says that where?
2)where does it mention "man's plan"?
3) false. What God planned, determined, BROUGHT ABOUT BY HIS HAND was evil. The murder of Hos own Son.
You challenged me and now your going to run? I don't blame you but how lame. And you were so sure of yourself.
Sorry. There is no plan mentioned there. That's called presuming. Look it up.
praise_yeshua
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How do men stand together and rulers assemble without a plan?
plan = an intention or decision about what one is going to do.
praise_yeshua
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1. You should study the Scriptures more.
Act 17:26 And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place,
Act 17:27 that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us,
2. answered
3. Christ wasn't murdered. He gave up His life.
Joh 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
If you only knew the Scriptures.... Is your pastor available?
praise_yeshua
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You say there is no plan and then you ask what it is.....
You have no foundation on anything here. You keep changing without acknowledging your change. This is evil.
God didn't predetermine this for you. You are evil. God is not.
civic
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yes attributing things of the devil/satan to God. Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.
Acts 17 is not Acts 4.
2 was not answered and won't be. There is no mention of "man's plan". It's assumed.
3) the taking of innocent life is murder. Or was what they did to be commended? Do they do it by faith? If not then it was sin.
If you only you would educate yourself instead of making it up as you go.
