Once a Son, Always a Son

[Rockson]

The scripture says that it does, to go against that would be adding to scripture.

Romans 10:13​

For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Acts 2:21​

And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.’

Or could it be a taking away from his word that is in regard to what OSAS teaches? If it's not a taking away then where in place is the truth of Jesus IF you continue in my word? John 8:31

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

One could only continue if they were truly in it at one time and if they were in it they were saved. It even says above that they believed on him.

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[Richard]

Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

One could only continue if they were truly in it at one time and if they were in it they were saved. It even says above that they believed on him.

Exactly, That's what it says and that's what it means. There's nothing there about not believing. if you continue. Doesn't say anything about if you stop believing. It's in encouragement. Proof that you are his disciples. On the other hand if you don't believe in him and you don't continue in his word you're not one of his disciples you're an unbeliever.

 

[Doug Brents]

Well just off the top of my head I'm thinking like an altar call. Accepting Jesus into your heart. That prayer we say to him asking him to forgive us telling him that we believe in him and we want to follow him. I totally agree with you, Obedience is extremely important, That shows that he is our Lord.

Please show me any evidence in Scripture that points to some prayer "asking him to forgive us telling him that we believe in him and we want to follow him" that leads to salvation. I have been searching for it for years, and have asked hundreds of people to show me where it is, but no one can show me.

I've heard a lot of different testimonies on how people came to Jesus I think the end result of that is when they call on the name of the Lord to save them.

Look at when Scripture says that we are saved: Rom 6:1-4, Col 2:11-14. When do these passages say our sins are removed? Not when we ask God to save us, but when we are baptized into Christ.

One of the things Jesus made clear was when he said "They'll know you are my disciples by your love for one another" It's sad to see Christians spewing hate and discontent towards each other. But then the Bible does say we all sin and fall short of the glory of God.

I agree wholeheartedly. Love is the key fruit that should be in all our lives; love toward one another, and love toward the lost.

 

[Richard]

Please show me any evidence in Scripture that points to some prayer "asking him to forgive us telling him that we believe in him and we want to follow him" that leads to salvation. I have been searching for it for years, and have asked hundreds of people to show me where it is, but no one can show me.

Look at when Scripture says that we are saved: Rom 6:1-4, Col 2:11-14. When do these passages say our sins are removed? Not when we ask God to save us, but when we are baptized into Christ.

I agree wholeheartedly. Love is the key fruit that should be in all our lives; love toward one another, and love toward the lost.

Calling on the name of the Lord in regards to our salvation... That's actually an interesting topic that I've never really done a deep dive into. I'll start a thread about it and maybe we both can learn something.

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/calling-on-the-name-of-the-lord.1258/

 

[Wilber]

I'm still a son, no one can snatch me out of his hand. I intend to abide in Christ. All the days of my life. He adopted me into his family and you can't be unadopted.