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7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 2:7.
God created man from the dust of the ground, literally, from clay, mud.
dust: עָפָר
Transliteration: ʿāpār
noun, masculine.
It is translated as follows in the King James Version:
dust 93 times
earth 7 times
powder 3
rubbish 2
ashes 2
morter 2
ground 1
for a total of 110 times עָפָר is found in the KJV.
Strong's: from [#6080] (`aphar); dust (as powdered or gray); hence clay, earth, mud.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 1:26–27.
In Saul's Corinthian letter he makes comparison between man (Adam) and Christ, between first Adam and last Adam, and reveals some very distinct differences between the two.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
1 Corinthians 15:42–49.
In agriculture to sow something is to bury a seed in the ground. It also means in contrast to reaping to plant something that brings a result expected or intended. Proverbs and elsewhere has something to say about that, about sin which is sown by committing it and death which is reaped from sin or sinning, an expected result...
Now, if the distinctions between the first and the last Adam are so opposite, distinctly uncharacteristic from each other then, what Saul is getting at even with bringing up these differences between man and Christ is that they are NOT the same thing, nor the same person and Person.
Christ wasn't created from the ground. His body was formed from the woman's DNA and given a body that Luke says is "holy" (Lk. 1:35) and holy has its meaning, too, such as... [Lk. 1:35 - Greek "hagios" (adj.)]
from hagos (an awful thing) [compare [Greek #53] (hagnos), [Heb. #2282] (chag)]; sacred (physical pure, moral blameless or religious, ceremony consecrated)
Saul says man was sown or created in corruption, dishonor, weakness, and natural. Man was created from natural earth, clay, or mud. He adds it is from the earth, earthy. The second man is the Lord from heaven. Now, is he referring to Jesus from heaven or Christ from heaven? Man was from the earth, but the woman was by-product, created from the man's rib, not directly from the earth or clay or mud.
Does this have any bearing on the nature of the man-child (the body) to be born from Mary His mother through the 'overshadowing' of the Holy Spirit when the moment of His conception arrived? Saul also says that men born from the first parents - one from the mud, the other from the man's rib - bear the image of the earthy, but there will come a point in time (or at death) that men will also bear the image of the heavenly implying the image of God in Christ. Now, my question is: when God created the first man from the earth, earthy, did he bear the image of God or the heavenly? Or was he only capable through created matter to bear the image of the earth and earthy?
I submit that when God said "Let us create man in our image" I doubt the image of God was created the image of God and that image according to Saul is of the earth, earthy. If it was of the Lord from heaven and heavenly and the image of God/heavenly then logically there would be no need to later through the new birth or in death a redeemed soul (person) to bear the image of the heavenly since he already bears it. Now, I already know the questions, the statements and the positions you will take. But there's more.
I believe man was sown/created as Saul says, or the earth, earthy. Adam was not sown/created in the image of God (heavenly) because God is not of the earth, earthy. This position is inconsistent from what is known from Scripture.
When God sown/created the first man and said, "Let us make man in our image (heavenly) God was not referring to the first man when He said that, but ordained in the Adamite race a future day in which through the new birth of the Holy Spirit is when we are made in the image of God, the Lord from heaven. When we are born again, we begin a new life in which God, the Lord from heaven, births in us His image which is the Lord from heaven. In one sense we are now made in the image of God. Scripture does say that when we have been born again we begin a process of being conformed to the image of Christ, the Lord from heaven.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Rom. 8:28–29.
In our new birth we begin to be conformed into the image of Christ, God's Holy Son. We are never in our new birth being conformed into the image of Adam the first man. So, when God said, "Let us man in our image" He looked forward and ordained in the first man created from the earth, earthy, to one day bear the image of the heavenly when we become born again.
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. Eph 4:23–24.
We are born into this world in the image of Adam, the first man of the earth, earthy; and when we are born again is when we are sown/created into the image of the heavenly, of the Son, of Christ.
Adam was not created in the image of God because the image of God is not of the earth, earthy, in dishonor, in weakness, natural. If anything, we are conquerors. So, everyone not born again remains the image of the first man, Adam, of the earth, earthy, in a sense although a living soul, still possessed of the material he was created in and that is dust, clay, mud. And there is no true joy in dying in this condition. To die in this condition results in only one thing: to be cast into "hell" body and soul.
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Mt 10:28.
But the born again, born from heaven, heavenly, bear the image of God, yes, even stamped upon our being as belonging to the One who sits in heaven and is of the heavenly. He who declared when He created the first man of the earth, earthy, "Let us sow/create man in our image" was looking forward to that day when that declaration would come true, after the cross, and through the resurrecting, creative power of the Holy Spirit we are created in the image of God. We are translated from death to life, eternal life in the Son, the Lord from heaven.
But for those never to be changed, never to be born again and remaining of the earth, earthy, of clay, dust, and mud.
These will be cast into "hell."
There is no joy in Mudville.
Genesis 2:7.
God created man from the dust of the ground, literally, from clay, mud.
dust: עָפָר
Transliteration: ʿāpār
noun, masculine.
It is translated as follows in the King James Version:
dust 93 times
earth 7 times
powder 3
rubbish 2
ashes 2
morter 2
ground 1
for a total of 110 times עָפָר is found in the KJV.
Strong's: from [#6080] (`aphar); dust (as powdered or gray); hence clay, earth, mud.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 1:26–27.
In Saul's Corinthian letter he makes comparison between man (Adam) and Christ, between first Adam and last Adam, and reveals some very distinct differences between the two.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
1 Corinthians 15:42–49.
In agriculture to sow something is to bury a seed in the ground. It also means in contrast to reaping to plant something that brings a result expected or intended. Proverbs and elsewhere has something to say about that, about sin which is sown by committing it and death which is reaped from sin or sinning, an expected result...
Now, if the distinctions between the first and the last Adam are so opposite, distinctly uncharacteristic from each other then, what Saul is getting at even with bringing up these differences between man and Christ is that they are NOT the same thing, nor the same person and Person.
Christ wasn't created from the ground. His body was formed from the woman's DNA and given a body that Luke says is "holy" (Lk. 1:35) and holy has its meaning, too, such as... [Lk. 1:35 - Greek "hagios" (adj.)]
from hagos (an awful thing) [compare [Greek #53] (hagnos), [Heb. #2282] (chag)]; sacred (physical pure, moral blameless or religious, ceremony consecrated)
Saul says man was sown or created in corruption, dishonor, weakness, and natural. Man was created from natural earth, clay, or mud. He adds it is from the earth, earthy. The second man is the Lord from heaven. Now, is he referring to Jesus from heaven or Christ from heaven? Man was from the earth, but the woman was by-product, created from the man's rib, not directly from the earth or clay or mud.
Does this have any bearing on the nature of the man-child (the body) to be born from Mary His mother through the 'overshadowing' of the Holy Spirit when the moment of His conception arrived? Saul also says that men born from the first parents - one from the mud, the other from the man's rib - bear the image of the earthy, but there will come a point in time (or at death) that men will also bear the image of the heavenly implying the image of God in Christ. Now, my question is: when God created the first man from the earth, earthy, did he bear the image of God or the heavenly? Or was he only capable through created matter to bear the image of the earth and earthy?
I submit that when God said "Let us create man in our image" I doubt the image of God was created the image of God and that image according to Saul is of the earth, earthy. If it was of the Lord from heaven and heavenly and the image of God/heavenly then logically there would be no need to later through the new birth or in death a redeemed soul (person) to bear the image of the heavenly since he already bears it. Now, I already know the questions, the statements and the positions you will take. But there's more.
I believe man was sown/created as Saul says, or the earth, earthy. Adam was not sown/created in the image of God (heavenly) because God is not of the earth, earthy. This position is inconsistent from what is known from Scripture.
When God sown/created the first man and said, "Let us make man in our image (heavenly) God was not referring to the first man when He said that, but ordained in the Adamite race a future day in which through the new birth of the Holy Spirit is when we are made in the image of God, the Lord from heaven. When we are born again, we begin a new life in which God, the Lord from heaven, births in us His image which is the Lord from heaven. In one sense we are now made in the image of God. Scripture does say that when we have been born again we begin a process of being conformed to the image of Christ, the Lord from heaven.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Rom. 8:28–29.
In our new birth we begin to be conformed into the image of Christ, God's Holy Son. We are never in our new birth being conformed into the image of Adam the first man. So, when God said, "Let us man in our image" He looked forward and ordained in the first man created from the earth, earthy, to one day bear the image of the heavenly when we become born again.
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. Eph 4:23–24.
We are born into this world in the image of Adam, the first man of the earth, earthy; and when we are born again is when we are sown/created into the image of the heavenly, of the Son, of Christ.
Adam was not created in the image of God because the image of God is not of the earth, earthy, in dishonor, in weakness, natural. If anything, we are conquerors. So, everyone not born again remains the image of the first man, Adam, of the earth, earthy, in a sense although a living soul, still possessed of the material he was created in and that is dust, clay, mud. And there is no true joy in dying in this condition. To die in this condition results in only one thing: to be cast into "hell" body and soul.
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Mt 10:28.
But the born again, born from heaven, heavenly, bear the image of God, yes, even stamped upon our being as belonging to the One who sits in heaven and is of the heavenly. He who declared when He created the first man of the earth, earthy, "Let us sow/create man in our image" was looking forward to that day when that declaration would come true, after the cross, and through the resurrecting, creative power of the Holy Spirit we are created in the image of God. We are translated from death to life, eternal life in the Son, the Lord from heaven.
But for those never to be changed, never to be born again and remaining of the earth, earthy, of clay, dust, and mud.
These will be cast into "hell."
There is no joy in Mudville.
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
