God is Love

[civic]

Your OP is a theological train wreck argument against God. Where to begin. This argument seems to be based on the flawed premise that love can only exist if there is more than one person present which doesn't make any sense because love is a quality, not necessarily a conditional status. For example, God is love not that God is love if others are present. (1 John 4:16)

You're also employing a false dichotomy which is extremely limiting on God and narrow minded. God does have love regardless of whether or not someone exists to experience it. The Bible says so in Ephesians 1:4 (NIV) "For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love..."

You also suggest that God is not perfect of complete, but rather requires others in order to express love. Thus you have attempted to bring God down to your level and make Him bow down to your idol. Therefore, God is perfect and love is one of His inherent qualities rather than something He needed to attain. You severely limit God.

As I already stated, you bring God down to your level. You're thinking of God like one may think of themselves with other people in a relationship of some sort. You have a category error. Our emotions are complex, but they are primarily chemical reactions in our heads that produce those warm, fuzzy, butterfly love feelings. That is not how God operates, sir.

Too many things to go over here. Your argument is circular in reasoning and is only begging the question that God is a trinity in the first place.

I am going with the Bible. Who's joining?

John 17
1After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

if you were the only human and God nor animals existed would you know what love is and how to describe it ? yes or no

You see the answer tho that question reveals the flaw in a unitarian god.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Runningman]

if you were the only human and God nor animals existed would you know what love is and how to describe it ? yes or no

You see the answer tho that question reveals the flaw in a unitarian god.

hope this helps !!!

This is the same sort of flawed logic that your OP has. You are suggesting that love depends on others' existence which was already proven to be a train wreck argument in the response I already gave you; you just repackaged and rebranded your argument. Humans not only have the capacity to love but one of the fruits of the Spirit is love. God can absolutely produce love in someone regardless of if they are alone and that experience could be described.

Are you actually going to address my previous comment now?

 

[civic]

This is the same sort of flawed logic that your OP has. You are suggesting that love depends on others' existence which was already proven to be a train wreck argument in the response I already gave you; you just repackaged and rebranded your argument. Humans not only have the capacity to love but one of the fruits of the Spirit is love. God can absolutely produce love in someone regardless of if they are alone and that experience could be described.

Are you actually going to address my previous comment now?

Nothing flawed about it since it’s common sense , logical and good reasoning. It’s also biblical and has spiritual insight into the nature, character and being of the God of the Bible.

 

[Runningman]

Nothing flawed about it since it’s common sense , logical and good reasoning. It’s also biblical and has spiritual insight into the nature, character and being of the God of the Bible.

You seem to be the only one bearing witness of yourself. You must be perfect, too, right?

 

[civic]

You seem to be the only one bearing witness of yourself. You must be perfect, too, right?

No I'm bearing witness to God, scripture and the truth. It has nothing to do with me. Nice attempt at equivocating

 

[Runningman]

No I'm bearing witness to God, scripture and the truth. It has nothing to do with me. Nice attempt at equivocating

I wouldn't want to be you since you are apparently bearing false witness of God. Have it your way limiting God and rejecting Him. When or if you decide to respond to my comment I'll see it.

 

[civic]

I wouldn't want to be you since you are apparently bearing false witness of God. Have it your way limiting God and rejecting Him. When or if you decide to respond to my comment I'll see it.

God has revealed the Plural nature within His Being in many places in both testaments. So it’s upon solid ground I stand all other ground is sinking sand.

 

[TedT]

I have come to realize that the fact that the full story of GOD's interaction with man on this earth ends with a heavenly marriage implies that the heavenly marriage was HIS purpose for our creation. It is in the heavenly marriage that HIS GLORY shines forth the strongest and most perfect in relationship with us, NOT in justice nor redemption which are merely aids to bring the marriage to fruition after to our moral stumbles.

HIS plan for all creation was the heavenly marriage.
HIS plan for each of us is the heavenly marriage.
Everything HE has ever done or will ever do conformed to this purpose, this plan, and He has never done anything that would slow this plan down or put it off or side track it in the least!

It implies that ALL of HIS being, all of HIS Sovereignty, all of HIS love, HIS righteousness and HIS nature as just have one perfect focus, to culminate HIS relationship with HIS creation in the heavenly marriage: one plan, one focus upon an ultimate value.

Therefore:
Our free will is an absolute necessity, not fettered in the least by HIS directives or predeterminations NOR by any enslavement to sin.
Aside from the fact that GOD cannot create any evil so all sinfulness proves the free will of every individual sinner, it is also a fact that true love and true marriage can be arrived at only by the free will acceptance of the lover and acceptance of the proposal of marriage by the Bride. GOD is not a Borg willing to have a Stepford wife...

This implies that GOD would always save anyone who could be saved from their sins to become HIS Bride, and would never condemn them for any reason. No one is in hell who can be, could be, might be saved by any IF in reality... This also implies that only those who chose to eternally reject HIM as GOD and husband by a deep desire not to be involved in HIS plan would be, could be, passed over for entry into the marriage because they have a right to their free will decisions to choose such a path.

It implies that everyone ever created in HIS image, ie, able to be a proper Bride for HIM, was created perfectly capable and able to become HIS bride, not held back by any imperfection or lack of acceptance by HIM.
Isaiah 43:7, 21
7 "whom I created for my glory"
21 the people I formed for myself that they may proclaim my praise.

Ecc 7:29 Only this have I found: I have discovered that God made man upright, but they have sought out many schemes.” Upright: S3477, yashar, straightforward, just, upright:... GOD created no one disgustingly corrupt, enslaved to sin and unable to be HIS Bride whether by fiat or be forceing them to be born into the sinful line of Adam.

By their coming into being every single person must have been within HIS plan, not separated from HIM by anything until they decide by a mature free will to reject HIM and HIS plan. HE cannot marry an evil person so why would HE create by any means, any system at all being created into Adam or a sinful world including evil people? It is impossible. No one inherited any sinfulness from Adam nor any judgement for any another person's sin.