What one receives from his faith is a legal declaration of righteousness
That legal declaration is vindicated - shown to be correct by one's works
Mark 16:16~"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
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That legal declaration is vindicated - shown to be correct by one's works
Doug Brents
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Tom, faith is inextricably linked to the actions it produces: neither one is complete without the other. The two together bring about God's declaration of righteousness of the person with faith. Without either one, there is no declaration of righteousness. "Declaration of righteousness" is just another way of saying "salvation". So without both faith and the actions it produces there is no salvation.
You do not receive salvation through faith before the requisite actions that perfect/make complete/give life to that faith are performed. This is what Paul is saying when, in Rom 10:9-10, he says that confession of Jesus as Lord results in salvation: the action proves the faith and it is through that proven faith that salvation is received. But that is not the only proof of faith that God says is required: baptism (Acts 2:38) and repentance (Acts 3:19) are also actions of faith that lead to/result in salvation. That is why I present those three actions as the necessary actions of faith that are required before salvation is received. I am not promoting "works salvation", simply acknowledging that without action there is no faith in the first place.
Sorry no
God declaration of righteous is upon faith
Galatians 2:15–16 (NASB 2020) — 15 “We are Jews by nature and not sinners from the Gentiles; 16 nevertheless, knowing that a person is not justified by works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the Law; since by works of the Law no flesh will be justified.
Romans 4:1–5 (NASB 2020) — 1 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about; but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” 4 Now to the one who works, the wages are not credited as a favor, but as what is due. 5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,
Again no, salvation is upon faith
Romans 10:8–10 (NASB 2020) — 8 But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
John 20:31 (NASB 2020) — 31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that by believing you may have life in His name.
John 5:24–25 (NASB 2020) — 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, the one who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. 25 “Truly, truly, I say to you, a time is coming and even now has arrived, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.
Doug Brents
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Upon faith that is alive and complete. There is a qualification on what works Paul is talking about in Gal 2: works of the Law. He is not saying that a person is not justified by any work at all, but by works of the Law. Faith requires works to be complete, and without the actions that complete it, faith is dead, worthless, meaningless, ineffectual, etc.
We have already covered this. Each of these verses uses the English word "believe", and each of these words comes from the Greek word "pistis" which means "faith". Faith is not simple belief (intellectual assent as we use the word in English today), but requires both the mental aspect (intellectual assent) and the physical aspect (actions taken in response to the intellectual assent). If it does not have both then it is dead, and cannot bring about salvation. Salvation is not granted by God upon the mental aspect but before the physical aspect of faith.
Sorry that is not stated in the text.
You add to the text what is not there
Sorry biblical faith is trust. Perform a physical action is not any part of the meaning of pistis.
You are inventing your own meaning
Faith in the gospel/Christ never means to perform some act
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πίστις -εως, ἡ; (pistis), n. faith. Hebrew equivalent: אֱמוּנָה (13), אֱמֶת (5), אמן 1 (1), אֲמָנָה 2 (1). LTW πίστις (Oaths and Vows), πίστις (Belief), πίστις (Faith).
Noun Usage
1. trust (faith) — strong confidence in, and reliance upon, someone or something; often with the object of trust understood. Related Topics: Confidence; Boldness; Faith; Trust; Christianity; Proselyte; Belief.
Ga 3:2 ἐξ ἀκοῆς πίστεως;
1 Th 1:8 ἐν παντὶ τόπῳ ἡ πίστις ὑμῶν ἡ πρὸς τὸν θεὸν
2 Th 1:3 ὅτι ὑπεραυξάνει ἡ πίστις ὑμῶν
Phm 5 ἀκούων σου τὴν ἀγάπην καὶ τὴν πίστιν ἣν ἔχεις πρὸς
Jas 2:14 ἐὰν πίστιν λέγῃ τις ἔχειν
2. trust in the gospel — trust in Jesus as contained in the content of the Gospel.
1 Th 1:3 ἀδιαλείπτως μνημονεύοντες ὑμῶν τοῦ ἔργου τῆς πίστεως καὶ τοῦ κόπου
2 Th 1:11 καὶ πληρώσῃ πᾶσαν εὐδοκίαν ἀγαθωσύνης καὶ ἔργον πίστεως ἐν δυνάμει,
Tt 1:1 κατὰ πίστιν ἐκλεκτῶν θεοῦ
Phm 6 ἡ κοινωνία τῆς πίστεώς σου
Jas 2:5 πλουσίους ἐν πίστει
3. faithfulness — the quality of being faithful. Sense Antonym: unfaithfulness. Related Topics: Faithfulness; Loyalty.
Ro 3:3 εἰ ἠπίστησάν τινες, μὴ ἡ ἀπιστία αὐτῶν τὴν πίστιν τοῦ
Ga 5:22 χρηστότης, ἀγαθωσύνη, πίστις,
2 Th 1:4 ὑπὲρ τῆς ὑπομονῆς ὑμῶν καὶ πίστεως ἐν πᾶσιν τοῖς διωγμοῖς
1 Ti 6:11 δίωκε δὲ δικαιοσύνην, εὐσέβειαν, πίστιν, ἀγάπην, ὑπομονήν, πραϋπαθίαν.
Tt 2:10 πᾶσαν πίστιν
4. gospel content ⇔ faith — the content of what is (and should be) believed about the good news of Jesus’ way of salvation. Related Topic: Faith.
Ga 3:23 Πρὸ τοῦ δὲ ἐλθεῖν τὴν πίστιν
1 Th 3:10 καὶ καταρτίσαι τὰ ὑστερήματα τῆς πίστεως ὑμῶν;
Tt 1:4 Τίτῳ γνησίῳ τέκνῳ κατὰ κοινὴν πίστιν·
Tt 2:2 ὑγιαίνοντας τῇ πίστει, τῇ ἀγάπῃ, τῇ ὑπομονῇ.
Jud 3 παρακαλῶν ἐπαγωνίζεσθαι τῇ ἅπαξ παραδοθείσῃ τοῖς ἁγίοις πίστει.
5. assurance ⇔ faith† — an unconditional commitment by someone that something will happen (so as to evoke trust and confidence in others). Related Topic: Faith.
Ac 17:31 πίστιν παρασχὼν πᾶσιν ἀναστήσας αὐτὸν ἐκ νεκρῶν.
6. oath ⇔ faith† — an oath, perhaps characterized by the (expected) trustworthy character of the one taking the oath.
1 Ti 5:12 ὅτι τὴν πρώτην πίστιν ἠθέτησαν·
Multi-Term Noun Usage
1. trust in the gospel — trust in Jesus as contained in the content of the Gospel. See also εἰς, ἐν, Χριστός.
Ro 3:22 δικαιοσύνη δὲ θεοῦ διὰ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, εἰς πάντας τοὺς πιστεύοντας,
Ga 2:16 διὰ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ,
Ga 3:22 ἐκ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ
Php 3:9 τὴν διὰ πίστεως Χριστοῦ,
1 Ti 3:13 οἱ γὰρ καλῶς διακονήσαντες βαθμὸν ἑαυτοῖς καλὸν περιποιοῦνται καὶ πολλὴν παρρησίαν ἐν πίστει
Used in a Multi-Term Verb
1. to convey the Gospel† — to bring the good news concerning the now present instantiation of Jesus’ divine dominion and way of salvation by His death and resurrection. Related Topic: Gospel.
Ga 1:23 ὅτι Ὁ διώκων ἡμᾶς ποτε νῦν εὐαγγελίζεται τὴν πίστιν ἥν ποτε
2. to believe (trust)† — to have faith; put one’s trust in something. Sense Antonym: to distrust. Related Topics: Confidence; Boldness; Faith; Trust; Christianity; Proselyte; Belief.
Mt 17:20 ἐὰν ἔχητε πίστιν ὡς κόκκον σινάπεως,
Mt 21:21 ἐὰν ἔχητε πίστιν καὶ μὴ διακριθῆτε,
Mk 4:40|| οὔπω ἔχετε πίστιν;
Mk 11:22 Ἔχετε πίστιν θεοῦ·
Rick Brannan, ed., Lexham Research Lexicon of the Greek New Testament (Lexham Research Lexicons; Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2020).
Doug Brents
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Wrong. It was in the quote you made in your own comment (see below).
Works of the Law do not save. But works of faith do.
Sorry, but that is not correct. Without action there is no faith, because inactive faith is dead and useless. If there is no action, then you don't really trust.
The classic chair analogy is perfect here. You are tired of standing on your feet. You see a chair in the room. You believe that it will hold your weight and give you rest for your tired feet. But you remain standing. If you really trusted the chair to support you, then you would sit down. Sitting in the chair is faith. If you remain standing, then you don't really have faith in the chair (even if you say you do). Your feet are not "saved" and given rest just because you "believe" that the chair will support you. Salvation for your feet is only received when you put your belief into action and sit in the chair.
You can post all kinds of human written dictionary definitions all day long, but they do not supersede Scripture.
Heb 11:1 says that faith is the substance and evidence of what we hope for and cannot see.
James 2 says that faith without action is dead. That we are not saved by faith alone, but by faith and the actions that are engendered by faith.
Even the definition highlighted above says that faith is to "put" one's trust in something. If you do not take action then you don't really have trust.
Sorry you are still creating a new meaning for faith
Physical action is not a part of the meaning
Faith in the gospel/Christ never means to perform some act not in lexicons or in scripture (see below)
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πίστις -εως, ἡ; (pistis), n. faith. Hebrew equivalent: אֱמוּנָה (13), אֱמֶת (5), אמן 1 (1), אֲמָנָה 2 (1). LTW πίστις (Oaths and Vows), πίστις (Belief), πίστις (Faith).
Noun Usage
1. trust (faith) — strong confidence in, and reliance upon, someone or something; often with the object of trust understood. Related Topics: Confidence; Boldness; Faith; Trust; Christianity; Proselyte; Belief.
Ga 3:2 ἐξ ἀκοῆς πίστεως;
1 Th 1:8 ἐν παντὶ τόπῳ ἡ πίστις ὑμῶν ἡ πρὸς τὸν θεὸν
2 Th 1:3 ὅτι ὑπεραυξάνει ἡ πίστις ὑμῶν
Phm 5 ἀκούων σου τὴν ἀγάπην καὶ τὴν πίστιν ἣν ἔχεις πρὸς
Jas 2:14 ἐὰν πίστιν λέγῃ τις ἔχειν
2. trust in the gospel — trust in Jesus as contained in the content of the Gospel.
1 Th 1:3 ἀδιαλείπτως μνημονεύοντες ὑμῶν τοῦ ἔργου τῆς πίστεως καὶ τοῦ κόπου
2 Th 1:11 καὶ πληρώσῃ πᾶσαν εὐδοκίαν ἀγαθωσύνης καὶ ἔργον πίστεως ἐν δυνάμει,
Tt 1:1 κατὰ πίστιν ἐκλεκτῶν θεοῦ
Phm 6 ἡ κοινωνία τῆς πίστεώς σου
Jas 2:5 πλουσίους ἐν πίστει
3. faithfulness — the quality of being faithful. Sense Antonym: unfaithfulness. Related Topics: Faithfulness; Loyalty.
Ro 3:3 εἰ ἠπίστησάν τινες, μὴ ἡ ἀπιστία αὐτῶν τὴν πίστιν τοῦ
Ga 5:22 χρηστότης, ἀγαθωσύνη, πίστις,
2 Th 1:4 ὑπὲρ τῆς ὑπομονῆς ὑμῶν καὶ πίστεως ἐν πᾶσιν τοῖς διωγμοῖς
1 Ti 6:11 δίωκε δὲ δικαιοσύνην, εὐσέβειαν, πίστιν, ἀγάπην, ὑπομονήν, πραϋπαθίαν.
Tt 2:10 πᾶσαν πίστιν
4. gospel content ⇔ faith — the content of what is (and should be) believed about the good news of Jesus’ way of salvation. Related Topic: Faith.
Ga 3:23 Πρὸ τοῦ δὲ ἐλθεῖν τὴν πίστιν
1 Th 3:10 καὶ καταρτίσαι τὰ ὑστερήματα τῆς πίστεως ὑμῶν;
Tt 1:4 Τίτῳ γνησίῳ τέκνῳ κατὰ κοινὴν πίστιν·
Tt 2:2 ὑγιαίνοντας τῇ πίστει, τῇ ἀγάπῃ, τῇ ὑπομονῇ.
Jud 3 παρακαλῶν ἐπαγωνίζεσθαι τῇ ἅπαξ παραδοθείσῃ τοῖς ἁγίοις πίστει.
5. assurance ⇔ faith† — an unconditional commitment by someone that something will happen (so as to evoke trust and confidence in others). Related Topic: Faith.
Ac 17:31 πίστιν παρασχὼν πᾶσιν ἀναστήσας αὐτὸν ἐκ νεκρῶν.
6. oath ⇔ faith† — an oath, perhaps characterized by the (expected) trustworthy character of the one taking the oath.
1 Ti 5:12 ὅτι τὴν πρώτην πίστιν ἠθέτησαν·
Multi-Term Noun Usage
1. trust in the gospel — trust in Jesus as contained in the content of the Gospel. See also εἰς, ἐν, Χριστός.
Ro 3:22 δικαιοσύνη δὲ θεοῦ διὰ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, εἰς πάντας τοὺς πιστεύοντας,
Ga 2:16 διὰ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ,
Ga 3:22 ἐκ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ
Php 3:9 τὴν διὰ πίστεως Χριστοῦ,
1 Ti 3:13 οἱ γὰρ καλῶς διακονήσαντες βαθμὸν ἑαυτοῖς καλὸν περιποιοῦνται καὶ πολλὴν παρρησίαν ἐν πίστει
Used in a Multi-Term Verb
1. to convey the Gospel† — to bring the good news concerning the now present instantiation of Jesus’ divine dominion and way of salvation by His death and resurrection. Related Topic: Gospel.
Ga 1:23 ὅτι Ὁ διώκων ἡμᾶς ποτε νῦν εὐαγγελίζεται τὴν πίστιν ἥν ποτε
2. to believe (trust)† — to have faith; put one’s trust in something. Sense Antonym: to distrust. Related Topics: Confidence; Boldness; Faith; Trust; Christianity; Proselyte; Belief.
Mt 17:20 ἐὰν ἔχητε πίστιν ὡς κόκκον σινάπεως,
Mt 21:21 ἐὰν ἔχητε πίστιν καὶ μὴ διακριθῆτε,
Mk 4:40|| οὔπω ἔχετε πίστιν;
Mk 11:22 Ἔχετε πίστιν θεοῦ·
Rick Brannan, ed., Lexham Research Lexicon of the Greek New Testament (Lexham Research Lexicons; Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2020).
Faith in scripture
God declaration of righteous is upon faith
Galatians 2:15–16 (NASB 2020) — 15 “We are Jews by nature and not sinners from the Gentiles; 16 nevertheless, knowing that a person is not justified by works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the Law; since by works of the Law no flesh will be justified.
Romans 4:1–5 (NASB 2020) — 1 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about; but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” 4 Now to the one who works, the wages are not credited as a favor, but as what is due. 5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,
And btw you chair analogy is defective as well
If you do not have faith the chair will hold you, then you will not sit in it
Faith precedes any action it acts upon
It is absurd to claim you did not have faith until you sat upon the chair
as it is absurd to say
Doug Brents
Well-known member
No, I am not "creating a new meaning for faith". I am reading what Scripture defines as faith instead of what man has watered it down to mean.
Yes, upon faith, not upon intellectual assent.
As James says, "faith" that does not take the action (of sitting in the chair in this instance) is not really faith at all. Faith is not just the intellectual assent that says, "I believe that chair will hold me." Faith requires that we act in trust (and actually put our weight on the chair). It is a perfect analogy.
mailmandan
Well-known member
Yes, in regard to James 2:24, James is not using the word "justified" here to mean "accounted as righteous" but is shown to be righteous. James is discussing the evidence of faith (says-claims to have faith but has no works/I will show you my faith by my works - James 2:14-18) and not the initial act of being accounted as righteous with God. (Romans 4:2-3) Works bear out the justification that already came by faith.
koberstein
Active member
I agree.
mailmandan
Well-known member
Those who teach salvation by faith AND works will typically re-define faith to "include" works. Such folks try to "shoehorn" works "into" salvation through faith, not works. (Ephesians 2:8,9) I've heard folks who attend the church of Christ say we are saved by faith "conjoined" with works and I have also heard folks who attend the Roman Catholic church say we are saved by faith "infused" with works.
On a different Christian forum, I once heard someone who attends the church of Christ make this statement below:
"It is works of obedience and not works of the law or works of merit that help save us."
On a different Christian forum, I also heard someone who attends the Roman Catholic church make this statement below:
We are saved by faith - as long as you properly define "Faith". Faith is not simply "believing". Faith INCLUDES: Being water baptized, partaking the Lord's Supper during Mass, works of mercy and charity, obeying his commandments etc..
Work-salvationists will basically take faith AND works then wrap them BOTH up in a package and simply stamp "faith" on the package. The Greek words for faith "pistis" and believe "pisteuo" are two forms of the same word. "Pistis" is the noun form and "pisteuo" is the verb form. Nothing in the root meaning of either word carries any concept of works. If you believe in/have faith in Jesus Christ for salvation, then you are trusting in Him alone for salvation/trusting in Him as the ALL-sufficient means of your salvation. This belief/faith results in actions appropriate to the belief (to one degree or the other/all genuine believers are fruitful, yet not all are equally fruitful) but the actions are NOT INHERENT in the belief/faith.
Indeed
πίστις -εως, ἡ; (pistis), n. faith. Hebrew equivalent: אֱמוּנָה (13), אֱמֶת (5), אמן 1 (1), אֲמָנָה 2 (1). LTW πίστις (Oaths and Vows), πίστις (Belief), πίστις (Faith).
Noun Usage
1. trust (faith) — strong confidence in, and reliance upon, someone or something; often with the object of trust understood. Related Topics: Confidence; Boldness; Faith; Trust; Christianity; Proselyte; Belief.
Ga 3:2 ἐξ ἀκοῆς πίστεως;
1 Th 1:8 ἐν παντὶ τόπῳ ἡ πίστις ὑμῶν ἡ πρὸς τὸν θεὸν
2 Th 1:3 ὅτι ὑπεραυξάνει ἡ πίστις ὑμῶν
Phm 5 ἀκούων σου τὴν ἀγάπην καὶ τὴν πίστιν ἣν ἔχεις πρὸς
Jas 2:14 ἐὰν πίστιν λέγῃ τις ἔχειν
2. trust in the gospel — trust in Jesus as contained in the content of the Gospel.
1 Th 1:3 ἀδιαλείπτως μνημονεύοντες ὑμῶν τοῦ ἔργου τῆς πίστεως καὶ τοῦ κόπου
2 Th 1:11 καὶ πληρώσῃ πᾶσαν εὐδοκίαν ἀγαθωσύνης καὶ ἔργον πίστεως ἐν δυνάμει,
Tt 1:1 κατὰ πίστιν ἐκλεκτῶν θεοῦ
Phm 6 ἡ κοινωνία τῆς πίστεώς σου
Jas 2:5 πλουσίους ἐν πίστει
3. faithfulness — the quality of being faithful. Sense Antonym: unfaithfulness. Related Topics: Faithfulness; Loyalty.
Ro 3:3 εἰ ἠπίστησάν τινες, μὴ ἡ ἀπιστία αὐτῶν τὴν πίστιν τοῦ
Ga 5:22 χρηστότης, ἀγαθωσύνη, πίστις,
2 Th 1:4 ὑπὲρ τῆς ὑπομονῆς ὑμῶν καὶ πίστεως ἐν πᾶσιν τοῖς διωγμοῖς
1 Ti 6:11 δίωκε δὲ δικαιοσύνην, εὐσέβειαν, πίστιν, ἀγάπην, ὑπομονήν, πραϋπαθίαν.
Tt 2:10 πᾶσαν πίστιν
4. gospel content ⇔ faith — the content of what is (and should be) believed about the good news of Jesus’ way of salvation. Related Topic: Faith.
Ga 3:23 Πρὸ τοῦ δὲ ἐλθεῖν τὴν πίστιν
1 Th 3:10 καὶ καταρτίσαι τὰ ὑστερήματα τῆς πίστεως ὑμῶν;
Tt 1:4 Τίτῳ γνησίῳ τέκνῳ κατὰ κοινὴν πίστιν·
Tt 2:2 ὑγιαίνοντας τῇ πίστει, τῇ ἀγάπῃ, τῇ ὑπομονῇ.
Jud 3 παρακαλῶν ἐπαγωνίζεσθαι τῇ ἅπαξ παραδοθείσῃ τοῖς ἁγίοις πίστει.
5. assurance ⇔ faith† — an unconditional commitment by someone that something will happen (so as to evoke trust and confidence in others). Related Topic: Faith.
Ac 17:31 πίστιν παρασχὼν πᾶσιν ἀναστήσας αὐτὸν ἐκ νεκρῶν.
6. oath ⇔ faith† — an oath, perhaps characterized by the (expected) trustworthy character of the one taking the oath.
1 Ti 5:12 ὅτι τὴν πρώτην πίστιν ἠθέτησαν·
Multi-Term Noun Usage
1. trust in the gospel — trust in Jesus as contained in the content of the Gospel. See also εἰς, ἐν, Χριστός.
Ro 3:22 δικαιοσύνη δὲ θεοῦ διὰ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, εἰς πάντας τοὺς πιστεύοντας,
Ga 2:16 διὰ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ,
Ga 3:22 ἐκ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ
Php 3:9 τὴν διὰ πίστεως Χριστοῦ,
1 Ti 3:13 οἱ γὰρ καλῶς διακονήσαντες βαθμὸν ἑαυτοῖς καλὸν περιποιοῦνται καὶ πολλὴν παρρησίαν ἐν πίστει
Rick Brannan, ed., Lexham Research Lexicon of the Greek New Testament (Lexham Research Lexicons; Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2020).
Yes, that is correct
δικαιόω (dikaioō), vb. justify; declare righteous. fut.act. δικαιώσω; aor.act. ἐδικαίωσα; aor.pass. ἐδικαιώθην; perf.mid. δεδικαίωμαι. Hebrew equivalent: צדק (15). LTW δικαιόω (Righteousness), δικαιόω (Justice).
Verb Usage
1. to be justified — to be or become judicially vindicated as having complied with the requirements of the law (of God).
Ro 3:24 δικαιούμενοι δωρεὰν τῇ αὐτοῦ χάριτι διὰ τῆς ἀπολυτρώσεως τῆς ἐν
Ga 2:16 οὐ δικαιοῦται ἄνθρωπος ἐξ ἔργων νόμου
1 Ti 3:16 ἐδικαιώθη ἐν πνεύματι,
Tt 3:7 δικαιωθέντες τῇ ἐκείνου χάριτι
Jas 2:21 Ἀβραὰμ ὁ πατὴρ ἡμῶν οὐκ ἐξ ἔργων ἐδικαιώθη, ἀνενέγκας Ἰσαὰκ
2. to justify — to pronounce a verdict that someone is in full accordance with the requirements of the law (of God).
Ro 3:26 εἰς τὸ εἶναι αὐτὸν δίκαιον καὶ δικαιοῦντα τὸν ἐκ πίστεως
Ro 3:30 ὃς δικαιώσει περιτομὴν ἐκ πίστεως καὶ ἀκροβυστίαν διὰ τῆς πίστεως.
Ro 8:30 καὶ ἐδικαίωσεν·
Ro 8:33 ὁ δικαιῶν·
Ga 3:8 ἡ γραφὴ ὅτι ἐκ πίστεως δικαιοῖ τὰ ἔθνη ὁ θεὸς
3. to be vindicated (state) — to be or become shown to be right by providing justification or proof.
Mt 11:19|| καὶ ἐδικαιώθη ἡ σοφία ἀπὸ τῶν ἔργων αὐτῆς.
Ro 3:4 Ὅπως ἂν δικαιωθῇς ἐν τοῖς λόγοις σου
1 Co 4:4 οὐκ ἐν τούτῳ δεδικαίωμαι,
1 Ti 3:16 ἐδικαιώθη ἐν πνεύματι,
Jas 2:21 Ἀβραὰμ ὁ πατὴρ ἡμῶν οὐκ ἐξ ἔργων ἐδικαιώθη, ἀνενέγκας Ἰσαὰκ
4. to declare just† — to declare to be free from favoritism, self-interest, bias, or deception; especially as conforming to established standards or rules.
Lk 7:29 (καὶ πᾶς ὁ λαὸς ἀκούσας καὶ οἱ τελῶναι ἐδικαίωσαν τὸν
5. to be vindicated (justified)† — to be shown to be in the right by providing justification or proof.
Lk 7:35|| καὶ ἐδικαιώθη ἡ σοφία ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν τέκνων αὐτῆς.
Rick Brannan, ed., Lexham Research Lexicon of the Greek New Testament (Lexham Research Lexicons; Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2020).
dwight92070
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I thought the Administrator shut down this thread, but now I see it back up again. What happened?
My thread is different
that's the one that got shut down. Maybe this one was too. I don't know
civic
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Usually our @Administrator makes a post in the thread stating why he is closing down a thread.My thread is different
I opened it back up as I was promised by different members that things would calm down there. And that seems to be the case.
mailmandan
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I heard an excellent sermon at church this last Sunday which talked about false religion being a distortion of redemption. False religion always turns symbols and shadows of our salvation into the substance and the source. A woman who previously attended the church of Christ gave a testimony at our church last Sunday morning on how she finally overcame that fatal error and has come to receive Jesus Christ through faith. Praise God! 
connect these dots
John 3:14–15 (KJV 1900) — 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:16 (KJV 1900) — 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:36 (KJV 1900) — 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 6:40 (KJV 1900) — 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:46–47 (KJV 1900) — 46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
John 20:31 (KJV 1900) — 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
seems all who believe are saved
Acts 10:43 (KJV 1900) — 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
and there is no water in that verse
Amen to this. I doubt Truther is now a user on this site. But it's good to keep up the scripture against water baptism for salvation
Thank you
