Mark 16:16~"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

[Truther]

So you separate the God and the man?

Or The man prays to the God inside him?

Or you are just very confused?

I separate them.

Jesus prayed to the God inside him that was also all around him.

Since he was resurrected by his God and his God made him an omnipresent quickening spirit person, every bit of his God is inside him.
This makes him God by default.

And all this time Christendom thought God was born, died and resurrected.

 

[Truther]

Nope

3 persons 1 God


Two witnesses; John 5:31-32; 8:16-18; compare Num. 35:30; Deut. 17:6; 19:15.

The Father sent the Son: John 3:17; Gal. 4:4; 1 John 4:10; etc.; compare John 1:6; 17:18; 20:21.

The Father and the Son love each other: John 3:35; 14:31; 17:23 -26.

The Father speaks to the Son, and the Son speaks to the Father: John 11:41 -42; 12:28; 17:126; etc.

Heavenly mathematics?

RCC math?

 

[Truther]

The Name of the Father is not Jesus nor is the name of the spirit

Jesus is not the father and is not the Holy spirit

Mark 1:9–13 (NASB 2020) — 9 In those days Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. 10 And immediately coming up out of the water, He saw the heavens opening, and the Spirit, like a dove, descending upon Him; 11 and a voice came from the heavens: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.” 12 And immediately the Spirit brought Him out into the wilderness. 13 And He was in the wilderness for forty days, being tempted by Satan; and He was with the wild animals, and the angels were serving Him.

What is the name of the Father? What is the name of the Holy Ghost? Please be specific. And tell me if you baptize in their names, OK?

 

[TomL]

What is the name of the Father? What is the name of the Holy Ghost? Please be specific. And tell me if you baptize in their names, OK?

The Name of the Father is Yahweh not Jesus

 

[TomL]

Heavenly mathematics?

RCC math?

Verses you failed to address

3 persons 1 God


Two witnesses; John 5:31-32; 8:16-18; compare Num. 35:30; Deut. 17:6; 19:15.

The Father sent the Son: John 3:17; Gal. 4:4; 1 John 4:10; etc.; compare John 1:6; 17:18; 20:21.

The Father and the Son love each other: John 3:35; 14:31; 17:23 -26.

The Father speaks to the Son, and the Son speaks to the Father: John 11:41 -42; 12:28; 17:126; etc.

 

[TomL]

I separate them.

Jesus prayed to the God inside him that was also all around him.

Since he was resurrected by his God and his God made him an omnipresent quickening spirit person, every bit of his God is inside him.
This makes him God by default.

And all this time Christendom thought God was born, died and resurrected.

So how was it the father spoke from heaven

Mark 1:9–13 (NASB 2020) — 9 In those days Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. 10 And immediately coming up out of the water, He saw the heavens opening, and the Spirit, like a dove, descending upon Him; 11 and a voice came from the heavens: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.” 12 And immediately the Spirit brought Him out into the wilderness. 13 And He was in the wilderness for forty days, being tempted by Satan; and He was with the wild animals, and the angels were serving Him.

 

[Truther]

The Name of the Father is Yahweh not Jesus

Do you baptize in the name “Yahweh” as you were instructed to do by Jesus?

Also, the name of the Holy Ghost please?

 

[Truther]

Verses you failed to address

3 persons 1 God


Two witnesses; John 5:31-32; 8:16-18; compare Num. 35:30; Deut. 17:6; 19:15.

The Father sent the Son: John 3:17; Gal. 4:4; 1 John 4:10; etc.; compare John 1:6; 17:18; 20:21.

The Father and the Son love each other: John 3:35; 14:31; 17:23 -26.

The Father speaks to the Son, and the Son speaks to the Father: John 11:41 -42; 12:28; 17:126; etc.

I see two persons there. God and His human son.

 

[Truther]

So how was it the father spoke from heaven

Mark 1:9–13 (NASB 2020) — 9 In those days Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. 10 And immediately coming up out of the water, He saw the heavens opening, and the Spirit, like a dove, descending upon Him; 11 and a voice came from the heavens: “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.” 12 And immediately the Spirit brought Him out into the wilderness. 13 And He was in the wilderness for forty days, being tempted by Satan; and He was with the wild animals, and the angels were serving Him.

That was God speaking of His human being son.

 

[TomL]

That was God speaking of His human being son.

Er the son was on earth

You had the Father in heaven the son on earth

oops

 

[Truther]

Er the son was on earth

You had the Father in heaven the son on earth

oops

Exactly what I said, Tom.

They are not the same persons.

As a matter of fact, what is this from Jesus already resurrected by his God and in heaven for decades?....


12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


...tongue in cheek talk?

 

[TomL]

Exactly what I said, Tom.

They are not the same persons.

As a matter of fact, what is this from Jesus already resurrected by his God and in heaven for decades?....


12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


...tongue in cheek talk?

Great so you are not a 1st century oneness person

and this must be some other person who stated

My oneness is true oneness(God inside His son).

that person had god in the son on earth and god is heaven while the holy spirit was descending

and thought they were all called Jesus

 

[Truther]

Great so you are not a 1st century oneness person

and this must be some other person who stated


that person had god in the son on earth and god is heaven while the holy spirit was descending

and thought they were all called Jesus

So, God has a God in heaven?

The verse has Jesus, 4 times in a single verse, saying he has a God.

 

[TomL]

So, God has a God in heaven?

The verse has Jesus, 4 times in a single verse, saying he has a God.

How did you resolve your dilemma

Mark 1:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. 10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: 11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Jesus is in the water on earth the Father is in Heaven while the Spirit descends from heaven

That is three persons in three locations

 

[Truther]

How did you resolve your dilemma

Mark 1:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. 10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: 11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Jesus is in the water on earth the Father is in Heaven while the Spirit descends from heaven

That is three persons in three locations

Actually, The Father is a Holy Ghost by definition and it(He) spoke.

The son was a human.

2 persons...

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;


4 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness...

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

 

[Doug Brents]

Actually, The Father is a Holy Ghost by definition and it(He) spoke.

The son was a human.

2 persons...

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;


4 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness...

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Please note that there are three, not just two. It would be redundant to speak of the Father twice (first and third) in Matt 28:19.
Similarly, 2 Cor 13:14 mentions all three, and again it would be redundant to speak of the Father twice.
In Matt 3:16-17 we see the Son as a man on Earth, the Spirit descending as a dove, and the Father speaking from Heaven.
John 14:16-17 says that the Son, still on Earth, will ask the Father, still in Heaven, to send the Spirit (the Advocate) to the Apostles.

Three different "persons" that make up the ONE God; all three fully equal and fully eternal.

 

[TomL]

Actually, The Father is a Holy Ghost by definition and it(He) spoke.

The son was a human.

2 persons...

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;


4 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness...

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Um you claimed the Son had God in him

Getting back to Christ's baptism

So we have God in the water, God the father speaking from out of heaven and God the Holy spirit descending down from heaven simultaneously and according to you they are all Jesus one person

 

[Truther]

Please note that there are three, not just two. It would be redundant to speak of the Father twice (first and third) in Matt 28:19.
Similarly, 2 Cor 13:14 mentions all three, and again it would be redundant to speak of the Father twice.
In Matt 3:16-17 we see the Son as a man on Earth, the Spirit descending as a dove, and the Father speaking from Heaven.
John 14:16-17 says that the Son, still on Earth, will ask the Father, still in Heaven, to send the Spirit (the Advocate) to the Apostles.

Three different "persons" that make up the ONE God; all three fully equal and fully eternal.

Question…. is the Father holy? Is the father a Spirit? Is the Father a holy Spirit?

Is the son holy, is the son a spirit, is the son, a holy spirit?

I think you inadvertently believe since there is some type of separation of the Godhead that there are 3 holy spirits.

 

[Truther]

Um you claimed the Son had God in him

Getting back to Christ's baptism

So we have God in the water, God the father speaking from out of heaven and God the Holy spirit descending down from heaven simultaneously and according to you they are all Jesus one person

God is a man?

 

[Doug Brents]

Question…. is the Father holy? Is the father a Spirit? Is the Father a holy Spirit?

Is the son holy, is the son a spirit, is the son, a holy spirit?

I think you inadvertently believe since there is some type of separation of the Godhead that there are 3 holy spirits.

That is like asking:
Is steam H2O?
Is water H2O?
Is ice H2O?
All three are the made of the same thing, but all there are different.

There is ONE God. There are three beings/spirits/persons/manifestations of that one God. Yes, all three are holy. Yes, all three are spirits. But each is distinct from the others.