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There’s not three persons in the Godhead. There is one God that manifested himself different ways. You guys have it completely backwards.
Mark 16:16~"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
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A man with God in him as per your confession
but what do you do with the Father in heaven, the Holy Spirit descending
and Jesus with God in him in the water while you confess but one person
Yes, yes, not the Holy Spirit
Yes, not just a Spirit, not the holy Spirit
I think you are confused
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I have told you umpteen times there are 2 persons...
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
God and the mediator.
And all this time you thought God Himself does the mediating to Himself?
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You have 3 holy Spirits in your trinity Godhead doctrine.
Nope that is your imagination
and you are still running from
The father in heaven, the son on earth, the Holy Spirit descending
while claiming they are one
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So, you think the Father is not a holy Spirit, the son is not a holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is a holy Spirit?
Or, have you ever thought...
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
The Father AND the son are holy Spirits.
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no, Jesus is God...by default.
This way...
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
This qualified him as God after God resurrected him from the dead.
I think the Father is not the Holy Spirit and the son is not the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is neither the father or the son and Jesus is not the name of the father or the Spirit
So Jesus was just a man until his resurrection in your view?
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Correct...God and Mary's biological son.
so you are an Arian
JW or unitarian?
John 1:1–18 (ESV) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light. 9 The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’ ”) 16 For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.
Yes but not the holy Spirit
I have to believe you do not understand the significance of the article
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Nope, I am of the long forgotten 1st century oneness(unity of God and Jesus via the Col 2:9 effect).
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Okay, you have 3 spirits that are holy if there is such thing as a trinity.
3 holy Spirits in the Godhead.
Even though one of them retains the title...
You are still Arian
JW or unitarian?
John 1:1–18 (ESV) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light. 9 The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’ ”) 16 For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.
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Nope, I am of the long forgotten 1st century oneness(unity of God and Jesus via the Col 2:9 effect).
