Made lower than the angels means what ?
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101G
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did I said you did, 101G asked a question.
was that not God "Shared" in flesh? Listen Isaiah 35:4 "Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you."
is this the Lord or the LORD?
101G.
Wrangler
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Yea, what ever that means. Try reading the monotheist text of the Bible without imposing a trinitarian eisegesis onto it.
Rev 1:1 God gave Jesus the revelation. Even after Jesus ascended into heaven, sitting on God's throne, having been given all authority in heaven and Earth, he is STILL not God.
In case you missed it, Jesus mentioned his God 4 times in Rev 3:12.
Wrangler
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Huh? What part of agency do you not get?
101G
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Which is him, now listen, Revelation 3:12 "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name."
who NAME did he write? read the verse carefully before you answer.... (smile).
101G.
101G
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civic
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where is agency mentioned in the bible ?
e v e
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context of a word of needed, so it's not just one sense. Also, you'd need to look at the original texts and be sure the translator did not mess it up... because often synonyms or other substitutes are the incorrect word, incorrect root.
Wrangler
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YHWH. The only true God of Scripture is YHWH, who we relate to as Father.
Wrangler
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It’s not the word but it’s the concept that is ubiquitously demonstrated. God dealt directly with Adam but for most, he acted through intermediaries, like prophets, Angels and foreign powers to impose judgement. Even the plagues of Egypt used intermediary agents who acted at God’s command.where is agency mentioned in the bible ?
civic
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Oh I see just like the Trinity concept that is ubiquitously demonstrated.
Wrangler
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Except it’s not demonstrated one time.Oh I see just like the Trinity concept that is ubiquitously demonstrated.
civic
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correct its dozens of times.
Wrangler
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Ha! If there was one trinity verse, it would be the most quoted verse of the Bible. Self devotion is the most deceptive.correct its dozens of times.
101G
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LOL, LOL, LOL, is there a Mental block going around? Revelation 3:12 "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name." B.A.M. BAM, BAM. Oh this is just too easy.
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Wrangler
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And his new name suprrcedes Jesus referencing his God 4 times? LOL
101G
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well please post the NEW NAM then.... (smile).... can't wait to hear it.
YIKES!.101G.
Rockson
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So what's your point in all this? That nobody should use the Name of Jesus? So you don't believe Jesus was God? What's your point?
Diserner
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16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. (Col. 1:15-17 NKJ)
civic
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one has to be biased when reading that passage to not see:
1- The Son existed before there was anything created
2- The Son created all things.
anyone picking up the Bible for the first time and reading that passage would come to the same conclusions that the Son was not created, existing before anything was created and that He is the Creator.
