Jesus denied being God

[synergy]

But the Word is not The God. This verse is actually a stumbling block for you.

That's not my position. I'm not a Modalist. You're barkin, on the up the wrong tree. You're just flailing away with your strawman accusations.

Your Judaizing unitarianism, on the other hand, is nailed to the wall by the fact that the Word was God.

John 1:1
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.

Exactly! Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.literally translates to God was the Word. Learn some Greek and then you will understand why Greeks are not Unitarians. Greeks are not stupid as you make them out to be.

 

[TomL]

I put up more info on John 1:1 mostly just for you. All that the system would allow. It's a new post called Data on John 1:1

You ignored this

You are making my point

Now

Philippians 2:4–8 (KJV 1900) — 4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

When did he exist in the form of God

before being made in the likeness of man or after

Is it not before he became man

so before becoming man he had a mind. He had thoughts and was able to demonstrate humility

That shows the pre-existant Christ was not an impersonal thing

hello

 

[TomL]

I already know I'm one of the most knowledgeable guys on the planet concerning the subject of who the resurrected Christ Jesus is. I don't need anyone to tell me how much I really know. Copying and pasting and using computers and driving cars and using washing machines are all things we have today and they are all okay to use.

Pride goeth before the fall

 

[Peterlag]

Pride goeth before the fall

What does pride have to do with someone who knows a subject well? If it's the truth then it's the truth.

 

[Peterlag]

You ignored this

You are making my point

Now

Philippians 2:4–8 (KJV 1900) — 4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

When did he exist in the form of God

before being made in the likeness of man or after

Is it not before he became man

so before becoming man he had a mind. He had thoughts and was able to demonstrate humility

That shows the pre-existant Christ was not an impersonal thing

hello

I believe you to be like the guy who says tell me why there's no water in the ocean. And I respond with there is water in the ocean. And then that guy says how come you are not answering my question as to why there's no water in the ocean?

 

[civic]

That's not my position. I'm not a Modalist. You're barkin, on the up the wrong tree. You're just flailing away with your strawman accusations.

Your Judaizing unitarianism, on the other hand, is nailed to the wall by the fact that the Word was God.

Exactly! Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.literally translates to God was the Word. Learn some Greek and then you will understand why Greeks are not Unitarians. Greeks are not stupid as you make them out to be.

game over for the uni's lol. also they have zero Greek scholarship on their side.

 

[TomL]

I believe you to be like the guy who says tell me why there's no water in the ocean. And I respond with there is water in the ocean. And then that guy says how come you are not answering my question as to why there's no water in the ocean?

That is a dodge

You ignored this

You are making my point

Now

Philippians 2:4–8 (KJV 1900) — 4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

When did he exist in the form of God

before being made in the likeness of man or after

Is it not before he became man

so before becoming man he had a mind. He had thoughts and was able to demonstrate humility

That shows the pre-existant Christ was not an impersonal thing

And still after all this time you do not address my objection

 

[TomL]

That's not my position. I'm not a Modalist. You're barkin, on the up the wrong tree. You're just flailing away with your strawman accusations.

Your Judaizing unitarianism, on the other hand, is nailed to the wall by the fact that the Word was God.

Exactly! Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.literally translates to God was the Word. Learn some Greek and then you will understand why Greeks are not Unitarians. Greeks are not stupid as you make them out to be.

The Greek does not follow English word order but the noun with the article is the subject

 

[Runningman]

That's not my position. I'm not a Modalist. You're barkin, on the up the wrong tree. You're just flailing away with your strawman accusations.

Your Judaizing unitarianism, on the other hand, is nailed to the wall by the fact that the Word was God.

Exactly! Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.literally translates to God was the Word. Learn some Greek and then you will understand why Greeks are not Unitarians. Greeks are not stupid as you make them out to be.

I am glad to see you have finally admitted the Word is not the God. My God is the God the Word was with. Seeing the difference now? Since you have finally admitted this, then I accept your defeat.

 

[synergy]

I am glad to see you have finally admitted the Word is not the God. My God is the God the Word was with. Seeing the difference now? Since you have finally admitted this, then I accept your defeat.

How in the world does one go from "God was the Word" (translated literally from the Greek) to "the Word is not the God"???? This will be an interesting dive into the warped thinking patterns of the Judaizing Heretical mind.

 

[Peterlag]

That is a dodge

You ignored this

You are making my point

Now

Philippians 2:4–8 (KJV 1900) — 4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

When did he exist in the form of God

before being made in the likeness of man or after

Is it not before he became man

so before becoming man he had a mind. He had thoughts and was able to demonstrate humility

That shows the pre-existant Christ was not an impersonal thing

And still after all this time you do not address my objection

It's not a dodge. You keep saying over and over that words are alive and therefore they must be personal of impersonal. I do not believe words are alive. And that you call a dodge. Weird.

 

[TomL]

It's not a dodge. You keep saying over and over that words are alive and therefore they must be personal of impersonal. I do not believe words are alive. And that you call a dodge. Weird.

Still not addressing the argument

Philippians 2:4–8 (KJV 1900) — 4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

When did he exist in the form of God

before being made in the likeness of man or after

Is it not before he became man

so before becoming man he had a mind. He had thoughts and was able to demonstrate humility

That shows the pre-existant Christ was not an impersonal thing

And still after all this time you do not address my objection

 

[dwight92070]

I already know I'm one of the most knowledgeable guys on the planet concerning the subject of who the resurrected Christ Jesus is. I don't need anyone to tell me how much I really know. Copying and pasting and using computers and driving cars and using washing machines are all things we have today and they are all okay to use.

You're also the most humble, right? You haven't even shown that you know who Jesus on earth was, not to mention the resurrected Jesus. Your "awesome data" is replete with error, wrong assumptions, bias, and disdain for the truth.

 

[praise_yeshua]

That's not my position. I'm not a Modalist. You're barkin, on the up the wrong tree. You're just flailing away with your strawman accusations.

Your Judaizing unitarianism, on the other hand, is nailed to the wall by the fact that the Word was God.

Exactly! Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.literally translates to God was the Word. Learn some Greek and then you will understand why Greeks are not Unitarians. Greeks are not stupid as you make them out to be.

Isn't it interesting how they claim Greek Mythology is found among those that gave us the Scriptures.

 

[praise_yeshua]

You're also the most humble, right? You haven't even shown that you know who Jesus on earth was, not to mention the resurrected Jesus. Your "awesome data" is replete with error, wrong assumptions, bias, and disdain for the truth.

It isn't his data at all. It comes from the "Scattered Brethren" theology he represents.

 

[civic]

How in the world does one go from "God was the Word" (translated literally from the Greek) to "the Word is not the God"???? This will be an interesting dive into the warped thinking patterns of the Judaizing Heretical mind.

yes baskets of popcorn lol

 

[synergy]

yes baskets of popcorn lol

What is possessing these Judaizers??? Why this hell-bent desire on their part to desecrate Jesus, the Bible, English Grammar, the Greek Language, History, etc...???

 

[civic]

What is possessing these Judaizers??? Why this hell-bent desire on their part to desecrate Jesus, the Bible, English Grammar, the Greek Language, History, etc...???

2 cor 4:4

 

[praise_yeshua]

What is possessing these Judaizers??? Why this hell-bent desire on their part to desecrate Jesus, the Bible, English Grammar, the Greek Language, History, etc...???

It has gone from being childish issues to full blown rejection of all it means to be "Jesus Christ". When they speak of Jesus Christ, all they have is a false image of Jesus Christ. They suppose they have life without Jesus Christ.

Which transitions them into clearly opposing Jesus Christ.

 

[praise_yeshua]

2 cor 4:4

Which corresponds with Genesis 1:26.

εἰκών

"image of God".