Jesus denied being God

Jesus self identity as God:

Revelation 21:5-6 KJV
And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. [6] And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
 
Jesus self identity as God:

Revelation 21:5-6 KJV
And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. [6] And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
What is your reasoning?
 
The Alpha and Omega.

Term used for the Father that Jesus used for Himself.

The rest of the chapter also Has Him as the Faithful and True.

He gives eternal life, the water, freely.

He it is that is on the white horse in Revelation.
Sounds like alpha and omega are the beginning and end of the Greek alphabet. So God has a beginning and ending point? I thought God was eternal.
 
It's not in that sense. Its about being the Creator and the Finisher, by context
Exactly as YHWH defined them in the OT- There is none but YHWH who is the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last besides Him there is no Savior/ God. In the N.T. we see YHWH is identified as the Son in Revelations.

The uni's are up a creek without a paddle.

Rev 22:13, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

We can see here that Whoever is the Alpha/Omega also claims to be the first/last AND the beginning/end. It’s the same Person.

If we look back in Rev 1:17-18 we see the following:

“…Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”

So, the One Who is first/last (and then is also Alpha/Omega and beginning/end) is the same Person who was dead and is alive forever more. It doesn’t take a scholar to figure out Who is the One speaking here. It does take a lot of mental gymnastics to explain away something so obvious.

The term "first/last" is used 4 times in Rev. Twice it is used along with "Alpha/Omega" with the Person claiming to be "first/last" AND the "Alpha/Omega."

"Alpha/Omega" is used 4 times in Rev. Twice with "first/last" and twice with "beginning/end."

"Beginning/end" occurs 3 times: twice with "Alpha/Omega" and once with "Alpha/Omega" AND "first/last."

In all of these texts, the speaker always refers to Himself with both or all of the titles. To say, "Well, this time it's Jehovah who is the first/last, this next time it's Jesus, then later it's Jehovah again..." is the mental gymnastics to which I referred.

Is God the first/last or is Jesus the first/last? Is God the Alpha/Omega or is Jesus the Alpha/Omega? Is God the beginning/end or is Jesus the beginning/end. An obvious way to reconcile the verses is to understand that Jesus is God.

According to unitarians, it seems God claimed to be the first/last in one sense while Jesus claimed to be first/last in another sense. You seem to gloss over the blatant connection of first/last with beginning/end and Alpha/Omega. In each verse, the Speaker who claims one title also claims one or both of the others. It's all the same person.

I usually wait patiently for unitarians to reply but this point has been nagging at me so I have to comment preemptively. I really am baffled by their suggestion from other discussion in the past that “first/last” has some meaning here other than the obvious one (a title synonymous with Alpha/Omega). You even say that Alpha/Omega is never used of the Son? Incredible!! We both have said that context is king so I would like to remind other readers of the context of Rev 1:17-18 (beginning in v.10, Young’s Literal):

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's-day, and I heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, saying, I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last;' and, `What thou dost see, write in a scroll, and send to the seven assemblies that [are] in Asia; to Ephesus, and to Smyrna, and to Pergamos, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.'

And I did turn to see the voice that did speak with me, and having turned, I saw seven golden lamp-stands, and in the midst of the seven lamp-stands, [one] like to a son of man, clothed to the foot, and girt round at the breast with a golden girdle, and his head and hairs white, as if white wool -- as snow, and his eyes as a flame of fire; and his feet like to fine brass, as in a furnace having been fired, and his voice as a sound of many waters, and having in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth a sharp two-edged sword is proceeding, and his countenance [is] as the sun shining in its might.

And when I saw him, I did fall at his feet as dead, and he placed his right hand upon me, saying to me, `Be not afraid; I am the First and the Last, and he who is living, and I did become dead, and, lo, I am living to the ages of the ages. Amen! and I have the keys of the hades and of the death.

Do you realize this is one scene? The Speaker identifies Himself in v. 11 as “the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last.” John turns to see who is speaking and sees “one like to a son of man” (other translations have “the Son of man”). Perhaps John is saying, "I saw someone who looked like Jesus." Then finally, in v. 17-18, the Speaker indeed identifies Himself as the One who is living and became dead and is now alive again forever.

Unitarians: I guess you identify the Alpha and Omega in v. 8 as Jehovah and v. 11 as Jesus? I guess you don’t see the term “the First and the Last” as a title equivalent to “the Alpha and Omega”? If so, you are definitely seeing something in the text that an ordinary reading doesn’t see beacuse of your bias.

It’s a title ascribed to the Almighty. I didn’t think it needed a more precise definition to be understood. What about, “the one who is and who was and who to come”? Does that need to be defined? I guess we could talk about a precise definition but I don’t think that will change my point. The Alpha/Omega is self-described as “the Almighty (1:8) AND the First/Last (22:13). The First/Last is self-described as the one who was dead and is alive forever more (1:18). Again, there are either 2 people who are the first and last OR Jesus is the Almighty.

Conclusion: Scripture declares YHWH is the First and the Last and besides Me there is no God/YHWH. Christ is YHWH.

hope this helps !!!
 
God and Jesus can be called something without them being the same person, but who gave God His titles?
God's Titles Are Self-Revealed

In Exodus 3:14, when Moses asks God His name, God responds: "I AM THAT I AM" (ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν in LXX), showing that God's identity and titles stem from His self-existence.

Isaiah 42:8: "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another." God asserts that His name (YHWH) is intrinsic to His identity.

Revelation 1:8: "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." This shows divine self-designation rather than reception of a title from an external source.
Jesus Shares Titles with God

Jesus is called "the First and the Last" (Revelation 1:17, 2:8), which is a title used for God in Isaiah 44:6. If God’s titles were assigned, then Jesus bearing the same titles would imply either He was also "assigned" or that He shares the divine nature.

Jesus is "Lord of lords and King of kings" (Revelation 17:14), yet God is called the same in 1 Timothy 6:15. This is not an issue of title-bestowal but of shared divine attributes.

Divine Titles Are Not Arbitrary Honors

Unlike humans, whose titles are bestowed based on roles or achievements, God’s titles reflect His intrinsic nature. No external being gives Him His names or status because He is the ultimate authority (Psalm 90:2).

Jesus being called "God" (John 1:1, Titus 2:13) and "Lord" (Philippians 2:11) does not mean He is separate from God the Father in essence but reveals His divine nature.

Thus, your premise that God must have been "given" His titles misrepresents biblical teaching.

God's titles come from His own nature, and Jesus shares in these titles because He shares in the divine essence.

J.
 
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