Humility And Calvinism?

They were not allowed to eat that stuff. Note what Peter said in Acts 10 (and no it wasn't that he could eat pork now. He knew the vision meant to call no man unclean. Shortly after, he was sent to the home of Cornelius, a Gentile.
God said in the vision, three times mind you for emphatic divine truth, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

It was a wholistic statement that Peter expressed as “any man”, but which encompasses the whole realm of “any man”, not just the particular strain of DNA of “gentile” people. This is evident in the response by the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem in Acts 11, who specifically objected to the dwelling and food aspects of “Gentile” life. When Peter responded to their objection, he emphasized the food aspect as food, not a general statement of type of man. To accept the man, is to accept his dwelling and the foods within that cultural context as also clean. That’s why God said “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”


Doug
 
The 10 reasons for the Law- the choice is yours what will it be ?

I can see again that you must deflect and change the subject away from your own false teaching, "God's Law is only for men born with a certain DNA. I posted who God Himself said His Law was for, but you refuse to even acknowledge these words, as you do others which cannot be used to justify your specific religious philosophy.

(1) Reveal the holy character of the eternal God to the nation of Israel (Leviticus 19:2; 20:7–8).

Ex. 12: 49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Lev. 19:2 Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for "I the LORD your God" am holy.

34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

According to God Himself, His LAW reveals His Holy Character to "ALL Flesh", even as it did for Abraham and Sodom. Not just men born of a certain DNA, as you and "Many" who come in Christ's name teach.

(2) Set apart the nation of Israel as distinct from all the other nations (Exodus 19:5).

You see what you did again? You omitted the very purpose that God chose Israel given to us in the next verse.

6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

I asked you once, what is the purpose of a Priest of God? But you won't answer.

(3) Reveal the sinfulness of man (cf. Galatians 3:19). Although the Law was good and holy (Romans 7:12), it did not provide salvation for the nation of Israel.

God Law was never created to take away willful sin. It was always created to show mankind the Righteousness of God that HE before ordained that we should walk in them. As the Lord's Christ teaches us when HE was up where HE was before.

Is. 48: 16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

17 Thus saith the LORD, "thy Redeemer", the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee "by the way that thou shouldest go". 18 O that thou hadst hearkened to my commandments! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea:

But you preach to the world that this "Way of the Lord" was a Yoke of Bondage, Rudiments of this world impossible for men to walk in.

This is why Jesus said to "Come out of her", the "her" being this world's religions.


“No one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin” (Romans 3:20; cf. Acts 13:38–39).

This is true, as Isaiah 1 points out perfectly. If you live in rebellion to God's Judgments and Commandments, and create your own righteousness and your own judgments, there is no "Work of the Law" that can justify you.

(4) Provide forgiveness through the sacrifice/offerings (Leviticus 1—7) for the people who had faith in the Lord in the nation of Israel.

And "the stranger that dwelleth with them". It's not prudent to omit such an important part of God's Instruction in righteousness.

Not for willful sins though. It is important to note that the sacrifices only provided atonement for non-willful sins. Sins in ignorance. If you know God says not to do something, and you do it anyway, there was NO sacrifice for this willful sin. Not then, and not now.

Heb. 10: 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

(5) Provide a way of worship for the community of faith through the yearly feasts (Leviticus 23).

The yearly feasts represent the Journey all men of faith must take, both the Homeborn, AND to the stranger who joins himself to the Lord. Salvation begins with Passover, but it is only the first step. It is the beginning of God's Salvation, not the end.

(6) Provide God’s direction for the physical and spiritual health of the nation (Exodus 21—23; Deuteronomy 6:4–19; Psalm 119:97–104).

And the Stranger too, who joins himself to the Lord.

Is. 56: 6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer "for all people". Not just men born with a certain DNA.

(7) Reveal to humanity that no one can keep the Law

Here is where you have lost your way and have rejected the God and Father of the Lords Christ. Because you have been convinced of the insidious lie that God placed a Law, a Yoke of Bondage on the necks of men who believed and trusted Him, that no man can obey, is a most evil and wicked judgment against God and is an insidious lie. To believe you I would have to believe that God is a liar, just as Eve was convinced by the serpent that God was a liar. I would have to believe that God lied to and about Abraham and Noah, and David, and Zacharias, and Anna and Simeon and all of the examples of Faithful men in the Bible. I would have to believe God lied to those men when HE said they could keep His Laws. And I would have to believe that the Jesus "of the Bible" is also a liar and deceiver when HE commanded me to "Be ye perfect even as your father in heaven is perfect". When HE said "If you want to enter life, keep the commandments". I would have to believe Paul is a Liar, "Circumcision (Jew) is nothing, and uncircumcision (Gentile) is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

To believe you and the Calvinists I would have to literally reject "EVERY WORD" which proceeds out of the Mouth of God and the Prophets, and many of the Christ's Words as well.

And why? Because some man who transformed himself into an apostle of Christ convinced you God's Word cannot be trusted?

You don't have to "Yield yourself" a servant to obey this worlds religions Civic. Turn to God, it isn't too late.

but everyone falls short of God’s standard of holiness.

This is simply another falsehood taught to others by you. According to what God and His Son actually teaches, we fall short of the Glory "of God". But Abraham didn't fall short of God's Standard of Holiness for him. Caleb didn't fall short of God standard of holiness for him. Neither did David or Zacharias, or Simeon or Anna or Cornelious, or "ANY" of the examples of Faithful men in the Bible.

1 Kings 11: 38 And it shall be, if thou wilt hearken unto all that I command thee, and wilt walk in my ways, and do that is right "in my sight", to keep my statutes and my commandments, as David my servant did; that I will be with thee, and build thee a sure house, as I built for David, and will give Israel unto thee.

David fell short of the Glory of God, but not short God's Standard of Holiness for mankind.

This is just another falsehood you have adopted and are promoting about God, that HE places a standard of Holiness on men's necks that is impossible for them to meet.

But when I read what is actually written, both you and the Calvinist are shown to be the purveyors of a "False Doctrine" that God is a liar, and the image of God in the likeness of some random men hair shampoo model is the new God.

That realization causes us to rely on God’s mercy and grace.

For what? You think you can preach to others falsehood about God, despise His Judgments and encourage others to do the same. Create your own righteousness, your own definition of love and holy and clean, your own image of God in the likeness of men, your own high days in worship of this image, and then plead to God for mercy and grace? Jesus already told you what HE will say Civic. You just don't believe in Him?

Matt. 7: 22 "Many" will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: "depart from me", ye that "work iniquity".


When Christ came, He fulfilled the Law and with His death paid the penalty for our breaking it (Galatians 3:24; Romans 10:4). By faith in Him, the believer has the very righteousness of Christ imputed to him.

Again, you have your religion, but Jesus has His own Words.

Matt. 5: 17 Think not "that I am come to destroy the law", or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle "shall in no wise pass from the law", till all be fulfilled.

Passover, the death of Christ is only the beginning of God's salvation, not the end as you falsely imply. Not all prophesy in the Law and Prophets has been fulfilled yet, the earth is still here, and Jesus has yet to return. And the Jesus "of the Bible" said not to even "THINK" HE came to destroy His Father's Inspired Word. But your entire religion is founded on the lie that HE did come to destroy His Father's Words, and even worse, you imply in your religious philosophy that God lied to Abraham and Abrahm's children throughout the entire Law and Prophets.

How are you then, any different than a Calvinist or a Pharisee or a JW's or any of this world's religious men?


The purpose of the Mosaic Law raises these questions: “Are you trusting in yourself to keep all the Ten Commandments all the time (which you can’t do)?”

God's Law didn't raise that question for me. He showed me in His Words from the very beginning that men will fall in sin. Even in His very creation, a child must fall before he learns how to walk. In fact, this is why He writes His Laws on the hearts of His people, so we won't forget them which we have the propensity to do. From the very beginning God has shown mercy and instruction to His Children because HE knows Salvation is a journey, always pressing forward towards righteousness. The Jesus "of the Bible" said to "Be perfect" even as His Father is perfect. Both me and Paul "Press toward the Prize" of the High calling of this perfection which was in Christ Jesus.

Of course, there is a cost here, and a man must be willing to forsake the religions of this world and deny himself.

But not you Civic. You promote a religion in which Jesus keeps God's instruction for you. A religion where God's Words and instruction in righteousness are a deception, and you preach to me that I should not listen to God or His Son, but I should listen to you and follow your specific religious sect. In the same way the Pharisees promoted their religion, the same way the Calvinists promote theirs.

But Jesus saw this coming, and both Him and Paul warned about the deception this world's religions, "Who come in Christ's Name" brings to mankind. Even the serpent in the garden "Professed to know God".

OR “Have you made the choice to accept Jesus as your Savior, realizing that He has fulfilled all the commandments all the time for you,

This is a great marketing strategy for your adopted religion and the merchants of this world have waxed rich off this religious philosophy. But Jesus never said even one time that HE obeys God, so you don't have to. And a man must grow in the knowledge of God. Even Jesus learned obedience through the things HE suffered.

There is no Biblical truth in any of your "10 reasons for the Law", just as there is no biblical truth in "TULIP". Will you be like the Calvinists who reject the Scriptures which expose their manmade philosophy? Or will you repent, and turn to God like those Faithful men in the Holy Scriptures.


even paying your penalty for breaking them?” The choice is yours. got?

There is no sacrifice for willful sin Civic. Jesus made this clear in His Words concerning the Christians HE addressed in Mattew 7.

God's instruction in righteousness is not a Yoke of Bondage. And God is not a liar.

Turn away from the religions of this world that hate God Civic. Listen to the Sayings of the Christ "of the Bible".

Ez. 18: 31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
 
My traditions are the same as the gentiles in the NT- no law.


This is the first true thing you have stated in several posts. Yes, your traditions are the same as the Gentiles who had "NO LAW" of God to define for them what righteousness and true Holiness, "After God" is. But Paul himself told you not to walk as they walked. Why do you refuse to listen to God, and Jesus, and now Paul?

Eph. 4: 17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from "the life of God" through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

20 But ye have not so learned Christ;

21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

22 That "ye put off" concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the "deceitful lusts;"

23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

24 And that "ye put on" the new man, which "after God" is created "in righteousness" and "true holiness".

Paul as an Apostle to the gentiles did not follow the law either, as Saul he did.

Another insidious falsehood. The Jesus "of the bible" said Saul was a child of the devil and "Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

But you preach to the world that Saul was obedient to God's Law.

You preach to the world that Paul didn't follow the Law of God.

But Paul says: "I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Paul said when he was Saul, that "as touching the Law, he was a Pharisee". The Jesus "of the Bible" said about the Pharisees;

Matt. 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

So like the Pharisees and the Calvinists, you have your religion. But you all preach a vision of the imaginations of your own human heart, Not out of the mouth of the Lord. As the above clearly shows. And did the Pharisees repent and turn to God when their false gospel was exposed by Scripture? NO! Did the Calvinists repent and turn to God when their false gospel was exposed by the Scripture you showed them? NO!

And do you repent and turn to God after the Scriptures also expose the false doctrines you have adopted and are promoting?

NO! as well.

Let's recount your religious philosophy.


#1. God placed His Laws that you preach is a Yoke of bondage, on the necks of Abraham's children who trusted Him enough to follow Him out of Egypt.

#2. God's Laws are impossible to obey, but God lied to Abraham's children and told them they could obey them, then slaughtered them by the thousands when they didn't obey the Laws you preach that God lied to them about.

#3. Jesus had to come and save mankind from God, by destroying God's Laws you preach are impossible for men to walk in, by walking in them Himself, so men no longer have to obey God.

#4. The Pharisees, like Saul, were striving to walk in God's Laws, and God rejected them for it.

#5. The Church of God rejected God's Laws, and God rewarded them for their disobedience by giving them the Holy Spirit.

#6. God's Laws were only created for men born of a certain DNA because God is a respecter of persons.

Like "TULIP", these are a false gospel that the Scriptures expose. I really hope you might do what you would expect the Calvinist to do, given the Scriptures that were shown unto them. But so far, you have reacted the same as them.


Christ fulfills the law as I have demonstrated with dozens of scriptures.

"Fulfil" and "Destroy" are opposite in meaning. In your religion, you count them as meaning the same thing.

The law is not my schoolmaster ,

This is true, you were not led to the Christ "of the Bible", rather, you are led to the image of God created by man. God's sacrificial Law, that was "ADDED" because of Transgressions, would lead you to the Christ "of the Bible" if you believed in God. So this is true, You are not "Learned of the Father", by His instruction in Righteousness because you don't believe in the Holy Scriptures which Paul teaches are trustworthy "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
What I advocate for is what the Jesus "of the bible" teaches, that a man shall "LIVE BY" EVERY Word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Hard to do when you have been convinced and are promoting to others, that God is not honest.

Christ is my Master and I follow Him, not the law.

The Christ of the Bible "IS" the Word of God. Your master is not the Christ "of the bible". If HE was, you would be a "Doer" of His Sayings, and not a hearer only. This is why I don't adopt your religion, or the religion of the Calvinists or Mormons, or Jw's etc. They have their religion, and they have a law and judgments and traditions and high days, they just are not wrought in God.

He abolished the law and made it obsolete as per the entire book of Hebrews and Galatians points out.

This is what you and the Calvinists and Catholics preach no doubt. But as I posted, the Jesus of the Bible told His people not to even "THINK" of such wickedness. Now the Law and Prophets prophesied of a New Covenant, and God, seeing this world's religions coming, defined it for those who believe HE speaks the Truth.

In His New Covenant, 2 things changed according to the God you preach to the world placed a Yoke of Bondage on the necks of His People.

#1. The manner in which God's Law is administered.

#2. The manner in which sins are forgiven.

Both of these things were Priesthood duties. You can read it for yourself.

Hebrews points this out perfectly.

Heb. 7: 11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For "the priesthood being changed", "there is made of necessity" a change also of the law.

So what was Prophesied to "Change" in the Law? Hebrews tells you exactly what was Prophesied to change, and it changed because "not one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled".

13 For he (Priest after the order of Melchisedec) of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, (Jesus wasn't a Levite) of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang "out of Juda"; of which tribe Moses "spake nothing" concerning "priesthood".

15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth "another priest", (As Prophesied)

16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, (Levites appointing other Levites to the Priesthood) but after the power of an endless life.

Heb. 7: 26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

28 For the law (Levitical Priesthood) maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

Heb. 8: 3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.

4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent "ministry", by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put "my laws" into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

11And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews teaches us, along with the Law and Prophets, that it was the Priesthood that was Prophesied to change. There is no Prophesy revealed in any scriptures, where God promised to "abolish" HIS Laws. You preach this falsehood; Calvinists preach this falsehood; but as anyone with two eyes can see, God doesn't, Jesus certainly doesn't, and the Hebrews Author doesn't.

It's right there in your own Bible Civic. God's Laws are not abolished, as you preach to the world. They are written on the hearts of His People. The Bible says this is how I can know if I am in Christ.

1 John 2: 3 And "hereby we do know" that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth "is not in him".

If the Christ of the Bible was your master, God's Laws would be written on your heart.

But they clearly are not given you yourself said you have "No Law".
 
They were not allowed to eat that stuff. Note what Peter said in Acts 10 (and no it wasn't that he could eat pork now. He knew the vision meant to call no man unclean. Shortly after, he was sent to the home of Cornelius, a Gentile.

Oh boy,

These are fighting words for this world's religious promoters. You are, of course right according to Scriptures, and good for you. But they will have to try and turn you away from this truth.
 
Oh boy,

These are fighting words for this world's religious promoters. You are, of course right according to Scriptures, and good for you. But they will have to try and turn you away from this truth.
God said in the vision, three times mind you for emphatic divine truth, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

It was a wholistic statement that Peter expressed as “any man”, but which encompasses the whole realm of “any man”, not just the particular strain of DNA of “gentile” people. This is evident in the response by the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem in Acts 11, who specifically objected to the dwelling and food aspects of “Gentile” life. When Peter responded to their objection, he emphasized the food aspect as food, not a general statement of type of man. To accept the man, is to accept his dwelling and the foods within that cultural context as also clean. That’s why God said “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”


Doug
Nope, Peter told us what it meant.
Acts 10:28 28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
 
Nope, Peter told us what it meant.
Acts 10:28 28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
You err in conflating what is said with what is meant. Peter was chided by the Jews in Jerusalem, not for just associating with a Gentile man, but specifically for entering his home and eating with him. (Acts 11) (And by the way Acts 11 is just as inspired as inspired as Acts 10.)

Doug
 

Here is the completion of John’s thought:

1John 3:21Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God 22and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. 23And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. 24The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them.

To love God with all our being and our neighbor as ourselves is the only command in the new covenant! For all other commands hang on these! Keep these and all is well!

Doug
 
Here is the completion of John’s thought:

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.3 And every man "that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin "is" the transgression of the law.

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

18 My little children, let us not love "in word", neither "in tongue"; but "in deed and in truth".

1 John 2: 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so "to walk", even as he walked.

7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

1 John 5: 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love "God", and keep "his" commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

John is pretty clear here that HE believes and Loves the God "of the Bible" and promotes obedience to Him, just like all of the Faithful examples this same God showed us, like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Caleb, Zacharias, Simeon, and the Chief Cornerstone, the man Jesus. Like John, all these men honored God in DEED and in TRUTH, not with just their lips.

None of them rejected God judgments, Statutes and the "Way of the Lord" in order to "keep their own religious traditions" like the religious sect of the Pharisees or the religious sect of this world you have adopted and are now promoting does.

1John 3:21Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God 22and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and "do" (Not just say) what pleases him. 23And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. 24The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them.

Yes, this is certainly one of His commands.

Duet. 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them "all that I shall command him". 19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will "not hearken" unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

So yes, John is right, God did Command that men believe in the Name of HIS Son, the Jesus "of the Bible". But again, as John also says, this belief God requires is in "DEED and Truth", not just words and lips.

Lev. 19: 15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. 16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD. 17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. 18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

John is also right again, as we heard from the beginning, we are to love others as we love ourselves, as God commands. But also again, not with just words, but in DEED and Truth.

Keep in mind that the New Testament wasn't even compiled until a century after the Church of God honored Him in obedience to His "Feast of Weeks". At the time John wrote this, the only Scriptures available to him was the Law and Prophets.

And he said "SIN" is Transgression of God's Law. It seems hypocritical you use a couple of sentences from John to justify a rejection of God's Judgments, but then ignore him or not believe him when he says things which bring question to this world's religious philosophies.

As I have said before, shouldn't men seek God's Kingdom and HIS Righteousness, and not always justification for this world's religions who call Jesus Lord, Lord but "work iniquity"?

To love God with all our being and our neighbor as ourselves is the only command in the new covenant!

In your religion this might be true. But the Bible never says that, and certainly God, defining HIS Own New covenant doesn't say that.

According to Him, there is only 2 things that changed in HIS Prophesied New Covenant.

#1. The manner in which His Laws are administered.

#2. The manner in which sins are forgiven.

As for His Laws, He promised to write them on the hearts of His People. John tells us this is how we can know if we are in Him or not. If we keep His commandments, and unlike the religious philosophy you and Civic have adopted and are now promoting to others, HIS Commandment are NOT "A yoke on bondage" impossible for men to walk in, and God is not a liar by telling men they could keep them, nor did HE lie about the men who did walk in them.

This is why Jesus warns about the "many" who come in His Name, who call Him Lord, Lord, but Transgress God's Commandments so they can live in their own manmade religious traditions, which vary depending on name above the door of their manmade shrines of worship.

In "Deed" and Truth", not with words and lips.

For all other commands hang on these! Keep these and all is well!

Doug

Yes, if a man Loves the God and Father of the Lord's Christ, as Jesus Commanded, with all his mind and body, he will deny himself, and "Yield Himself" a servant to obey this God. And if a man believes in the name of Jesus Christ, in Deed and truth, he will "purify himself" and "put on" the New man which after God is created in righteousness and true Holiness.

But what is "righteousness" and true Holiness? How do I find them? Do I "Seek first" the Methodist religion? The Calvinist religion? The Pharisees religion? The Catholic religion?

No, the Bible warns over and over and over about this world's religions. NO, If I Love God and believe on the Name of His Son in deed and truth, I will listen to Him. And HE said plainly and clearly, "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and "HIS" Righteousness". And where do I find this knowledge? Where is the Righteousness and wrath of God against unrighteousness of men revealed? Paul said "All scripture" is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the "man of God" may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

At the time of this writing, the only "Scriptures" which existed was the Law and Prophets, the same Scriptures Jesus taught from.

And why is it important for the man of God to be perfect?

Because it is a commandment from God that HE placed in His Son to give to us.

"Be ye perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect".

A man either believes in this Jesus, in Deed and Truth, or he believes in the image of this Christ, created by the Catholic religion and promoted by her protestant daughters.

I advocate that men Love the God "of the Bible" and believe on the Name of the Jesus "of the Bible". Not with their lips, but in deed and truth, as John teaches.
 
You err in conflating what is said with what is meant. Peter was chided by the Jews in Jerusalem, not for just associating with a Gentile man, but specifically for entering his home and eating with him. (Acts 11) (And by the way Acts 11 is just as inspired as inspired as Acts 10.)

Doug
You saw from Acts 10 interlinear what it meant. It said call no man unclean. Cornelius was a first Gentile convert Peter was hesitant to meet with any gentiles, until the vision was given. I find it extremely strange that the dietary laws were there from the get go, and(Noah knew, but we've been through that.

So if Mr. Pig was born before Jesus, he was unclean? But after Christ died, he was clean?

(And by the way Acts 11 is just as inspired as inspired as Acts 10.) Do tell. The fact that Peter ate with him does not mean he was served unclean food.


Isaiah Chapter 66 talks about judgement and restoration Here is Isaiah 66:15-17 in the King James Version (KJV):

"**Isaiah 66:15-17 (KJV)**

15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire,
and with his chariots like a whirlwind,
to render his anger with fury,
and his rebuke with flames of fire.

16 For by fire and by his sword
will the Lord plead with all flesh:
and the slain of the Lord shall be many.

17
They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the Lord.

Of course, you will say that this is symbolic, but the in Peter's vision, its meaning is actual, no?"
 
Be ye perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect".
43“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor i and hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,45that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Be perfect in love is the context, love for your enemies not just your friends! This is “not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.” (Rom 14:17-18)

Eating and drinking, in terms of their substance, have no part in pleasing God! Again, what goes into the body is not what makes a man a sinner (whether eaten with dirty hands, or by what it is that eaten).

Again, as Paul clearly says, “But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.” (Rom 7:6)

Doug
 
43“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor i and hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,45that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Be perfect in love is the context, love for your enemies not just your friends! This is “not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.” (Rom 14:17-18)

Eating and drinking, in terms of their substance, have no part in pleasing God! Again, what goes into the body is not what makes a man a sinner (whether eaten with dirty hands, or by what it is that eaten).

Again, as Paul clearly says, “But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.” (Rom 7:6)

Doug
Now we know how Jesus felt dealing with the Pharisees lol and their legalism to the law- self righteousness
 
Calvinism says God saves those that he just chooses too.
And Romans 9, and John 6:44 agree. That Salvation STARTS with God is a given.
Do they receive Jesus as their Lord and King and be glad that they've done so!
I was certainly glad!!! Going from terminally depressed, suicidal, and hopeless, to being a new creation in Christ, full of hope and promise was certainly a GOOD THING!!!

"Grace" is "Undeserved favor". It's the reason we weren't immediately killed and sent to hell the first time we SINNED and fell short. "Grace" is why we were permitted to physically survive under sentence of DEATH AND HELL long enough to become Born again Christians!!!

"Calvinism" has nothing to do with any of it of course, since it's nothing more that just another "theological systematic". It's accurate in ONE RESPECT: in all things, GOD MOVES FIRST. The rest is just "theology".
 
And by the way Acts 11 is just as inspired as inspired as Acts 10.) Do tell. The fact that Peter ate with him does not mean he was served unclean food.
The clear implication of the Jewish believers in Jerusalem is that it was. If you think that the whole of Cornelius’ family that had gathered there were kosher Gentiles, then you are being both presumptuous and naive. Note that Peter never corrected them by saying, “Oh, he was a kosher Gentile.”; so there was no problem with what we ate!” No, he repeated the story of the sheet of unclean animals and that God commanded him to “take, kill, and eat” in direct contradiction to the dietary restrictions of the OT.

To think that was merely a symbolic metaphor for Gentile DNA is mind numbing!
To call no man unclean includes his house and his food.

Again, to Paul, the peculiarly of what made a Jew different from a Gentile is erased in Christ, who made the two one “and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.”


Doug
 
And Romans 9, and John 6:44 agree. That Salvation STARTS with God is a given.

I was certainly glad!!! Going from terminally depressed, suicidal, and hopeless, to being a new creation in Christ, full of hope and promise was certainly a GOOD THING!!!

"Grace" is "Undeserved favor". It's the reason we weren't immediately killed and sent to hell the first time we SINNED and fell short. "Grace" is why we were permitted to physically survive under sentence of DEATH AND HELL long enough to become Born again Christians!!!

"Calvinism" has nothing to do with any of it of course, since it's nothing more that just another "theological systematic". It's accurate in ONE RESPECT: in all things, GOD MOVES FIRST. The rest is just "theology".
The main problem with calvinism is that before creation God chose to save some and damn the rest. Those He damned never had a chance to believe or receive the gospel since God was never going to regenerate them so they could believe the gospel( the " I " in tulip ). Those God saves also never had any real choice either since God had to regenerate them before they could ever believe and receive the gospel. In their theology Jesus only died for a few not all the world.

And the sad thing is I believed that garbage for over 40 years Bob. I'm sure glad Jesus delivered me from such nonsense.
 
The clear implication of the Jewish believers in Jerusalem is that it was. If you think that the whole of Cornelius’ family that had gathered there were kosher Gentiles, then you are being both presumptuous and naive. Note that Peter never corrected them by saying, “Oh, he was a kosher Gentile.”; so there was no problem with what we ate!” No, he repeated the story of the sheet of unclean animals and that God commanded him to “take, kill, and eat” in direct contradiction to the dietary restrictions of the OT.

To think that was merely a symbolic metaphor for Gentile DNA is mind numbing!


Again, to Paul, the peculiarly of what made a Jew different from a Gentile is erased in Christ, who made the two one “and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.”


Doug
I didn't say they were kosher, now did I?
They ate more than pork, I can guarantee you. cereal ,legumes, figs dates other things too.

You said"To call no man unclean includes his house and his food." Horsefeathers.


This is just silly. You are reaching,

To the Jews first, and then to the Gentiles was the way the Gospel was to be preached.


And you said this too "To think that was merely a symbolic metaphor for Gentile DNA is mind numbing!"
Call no MAN unclean. To think that pork became clean at that second when it had been dirty from the get go is asinine
 
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I didn't say they were kosher, now did I?
They ate more than pork, I can guarantee you. cereal ,legumes, figs dates other things too.

You said"To call no man unclean includes his house and his food." Horsefeathers.


This is just silly. You are reaching,

To the Jews first, and then to the Gentiles was the way the Gospel was to be preached.


And you said this too "To think that was merely a symbolic metaphor for Gentile DNA is mind numbing!"
Call no MAN unclean. To think that pork became clean at that second when it had been dirty from the get go is asinine
Are Gentiles supposed to be circumcised? If not, and circumcision is the pinnacle law for being Jewish, then why is the rest of the Jewish law applicable to Gentiles?

Doug
 
The main problem with calvinism is that before creation God chose to save some and damn the rest. Those He damned never had a chance to believe or receive the gospel since God was never going to regenerate them so they could believe the gospel( the " I " in tulip ). Those God saves also never had any real choice either since God had to regenerate them before they could ever believe and receive the gospel. In their theology Jesus only died for a few not all the world.

And the sad thing is I believed that garbage for over 40 years Bob. I'm sure glad Jesus delivered me from such nonsense.
and all that "garbage" is what Calvinists call the "doctrines of grace"!?!? Who are they trying to fool? :ROFLMAO:
 
43“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor i and hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,45that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Be perfect in love is the context, love for your enemies not just your friends! This is “not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.” (Rom 14:17-18)

You must omit the rest of Jesus' teaching in Matt. 5 about "disobeying the least of God's Commandments and teaching others to do the same". Or His command not to even "Think" HE came to destroy the Law and Prophets, or God's Law about divorce, or God's instruction not to hate a brother in your heart. Instead, you must carefully select only those words which you can use to justify you rejection of God's judgments that you have judged as "worthless Jewish Traditions".

When "Every Word" of God that HE placed in the mouth of His Son is considered, the context isn't just about your definition of love. But to see this, or even care about this, you would have to be interested in the Truth of God, and not only self-justification. Therefore, you only seem to believe scriptures that can be twisted to justify your religious philosophy, just as the Calvinists are only interested in Scriptures they can twist to justify TULIP.

Preaching to others false gospels like "TULIP" or the insidious lie that God placed a Yoke of Bondage on the necks of men who placed their Faith in Him, is not love. Teaching lies about God's Word, like HIS Commandments are "Rudiments of this world", and worthless "Jewish traditions" is not love. When Jesus encountered the religious sects of His Time, who promoted lies about His Father, He Loved them by telling them the Truth of Scriptures. This is how to love the enemies of the Lord, which are my enemies as well.

Pointing out what the Scriptures actually say, and pointing out the false doctrines promoted by this world's religions, this is the love Jesus lived in. Just as Civic loves the Calvinists by pointing out the lies they preach to others about God. But he doesn't love himself with the same love, to make the same judgment against the false gospel he preaches, and you also, and me too when I lived after the religious philosophies of this world.

I must reject your teaching that rejecting God's judgments in favor of pagan practices and traditions, is pleasing to God. While humbling and "Yielding oneself" a servant to obey God, even in the least of His commandments, you imply makes me an enemy of God.

That isn't the message of Jesus in Matt. 5. If you cared as much about God's Truth as you did about self-justification, you could see this. It's my hope that someday you might take a leap of Faith and humble yourself to the teaching of the Christ, as "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Eating and drinking, in terms of their substance, have no part in pleasing God!

You see what I mean? You are actually teaching others that God isn't well pleased with men who Humble themselves in obedience to Him, even in the least of His commandments, like His Son did. This is not loving others, but deceiving them, and killing them if they adopt your philosophy.

Jesus said,
Matt. 6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father "knoweth that ye have need of all these things"

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and "his righteousness"; (Not your own) and all these things shall be added unto you.

And if I am to believe on the name of "this Jesus", shall I not be a "Doer" of His Sayings? And what will I find if I obey Him? Will I not find a Merciful God who defines for His Children, as all good parents do for their children "what shall we eat, what shall we drink, and what covering God prepared for us?

Again, what goes into the body is not what makes a man a sinner (whether eaten with dirty hands, or by what it is that eaten).

Rebellion, dishonor, disobedience, unrighteousness, indifference to God, telling lies about Him, all these things come from within.

Again, as Paul clearly says, “But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.” (Rom 7:6)

Doug

But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve (Serve who Doug, whoever we yield our self a servant to?) in newness of spirit, (New man, which after God is created in (HIS) Righteousness and "True Holiness") and not in the oldness of the letter. (Dead in your trespasses and Sins)

Seek God's Truth Doug, not justification. As Paul teaches.

Rom. 2: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing "seek for" glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
 
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