God Has Made No Covenant With Gentiles

[jeremiah1five]

Er scripture not me said it

And sacrificial and ritual laws of the old covenant are not binding under the New covenant

According to God is Revelation a Third Temple will be built and sacrifices will resume.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Dan. 9:26–27.

And during the Millennium the sacrifices will continue under the oversight of the high priest from the family line of Zadok.

 

[TomL]

According to God is Revelation a Third Temple will be built and sacrifices will resume.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Dan. 9:26–27.

And during the Millennium the sacrifices will continue under the oversight of the high priest from the family line of Zadok.

Don't think so

You have to disassociate the verses from their context and project them into the future

All that was to transpire in seventy weeks not thousands of years

And the re-establishment of old covenant sacrificial laws would be an affront to Christ whose sacrifice superceded them

 

[jeremiah1five]

Thats False, In Christ their Head a Covenant was made with them and they because of Him are children of the covenant and of promise Isa 42:6

Quite impossible.
The Abrahamic Covenant is between God and Abram the Hebrew and his seed. Gentiles do not come from his seed or his loins.
To reiterate the preciseness of this covenant God repeats

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:6–7.

In other words, don't contradict God.

The Mosaic Covenant is made with Abraham's seed, or the Children of Jacob/Israel. It was for this purpose God would keep His promise to deliver his descendants from bondage of slavery and of the bondage of sin.

The New Covenant is made between God and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes) and the House of Jacob (two southern kingdom tribes), i.e. the children of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob/Israel.

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer. 31:31.

Again, God repeats Himself so that there be no confusion:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; Jer. 31:33.

No matter how hard you try to 'elbow' your way as Gentile in the covenants of God Gentiles are not in any covenant God made with the Hebrew people beginning with Abraham.

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

Being a light for the Gentiles does not a covenant make.

Acts 3:25

25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Abraham had two sons. One from the bondwoman and one from the free woman. The covenant with God continued through Isaac.
Isaac had two sons, Esau, and Jacob.

The word "kindreds" refers to "patria" which is from the root word "pater." The word is translated "father" and "forefather" and "descendants." The twelve sons of Ishmael and Ishmael himself, and the descendants of Esau are the "patria" that are blessed being offspring from Abraham's loins. Gentiles do not come from the seed or the loins of Abraham. These descendants of Abraham are the multitude of families that were blessed with Abraham. And again, God declares "in thy seed" shall all Abraham's families or descendants shall be blessed even though the Promises went through Isaac and Jacob/Israel.

Now heres the Gospel preached to Abraham Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

"Heathen" and "nations" still refer to Abraham's descendants that God will bless. Ishmael's descendants went on to practice idol worshiping as did the descendants of Esau being outside the covenant. Although both family lines diverge with those with the covenant promises and those without the covenant promises as the promises went to Isaac in his time and Jacob/Israel in his time.

Being there are many "gospels" in Scripture, the gospel of Abraham is one also.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You assume a lot. I stated nothing about jews being cast away

It's not an assumption. The Bible does address the false belief that God cast away His people which He foreknew. IT IS a false belief of Gentiles.

As he said, you are in error. But Gentiles have long held to the false belief that just because Israel came under judgment - and they are in covenant - and the Second Jewish Temple was destroyed, Gentiles came under the false understanding not knowing Scripture that God had "cast away His people" but Saul says in several places "God forbid!" (i.e. Not true!)

The question on what ground will they reenter. it seems you might imagine it will be under old covenant law and rituals but have not a shred of proof for.

There is no "reentering." Israel was never outside their covenants with God. Not even when it says God divorced His Bride who is Israel were the covenants made void or Israel (God's Bride) ever not in covenant.
Israel may have turned to idols in their history, but God is not a man that He should lie. HE WILL keep all His promises made to these distinct and separated people.

You wish to re-install that which is obsolete and was ready to vanish 2000 years ago, beggarly elements

The Torah/Law is God's Word. The Word is God's Law/Torah.
If you want to say the Word of God is "obsolete" when it isn't then have at it. You seem hard-pressed to continue in your rejection of God's Word/Torah.

and teach contrary to inspired scripture

Galatians 3:27–29 (KJV 1900) — 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Very convenient to exclude WHO God is 'speaking' to in Galatians, as well as all the letters from Saul. Saul is addressing Jewish Christians who had concerns about their standing in the Abrahamic Covenant especially after becoming Christ-followers (Christian.) It either "convenient" for you to post Galatians 3:27-29, or you're showing your ignorance of the Word of God and the things recorded in its pages concerning Israel's history and culture, their religion and their covenants.
Let's take a closer, unbiased look at Saul's words in the passages of verses preceding your target verses:

23 But before faith came, we [Jews] were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our [Jews] schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we [Jews] might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we [Jews] are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye [Jews] are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you [Jews] as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye [Jews] are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye [Jews] be Christ’s, then are ye [Jews] Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to
the promise. Gal. 3:22–29.

Gentiles have never been recipient of the covenant promises God made to the children of Israel. As you can read Saul is addressing Jewish Christians who had concerns of being a Christ-follower (Christian) and Saul re-assured them in this letter that Christ adds to the covenant with Abraham, and they remain children/seed of Abraham.

running afoul of verses such as
Colossians 2:16-17 (KJV)
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Galatians 4:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? 10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. 11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
The idea there will be a 1000 year millenium upon the return of Christ replete with old testament sacrifices and law is not taught in the New Testament

It is. And the Feasts shall also be observed while the sacrifices will be performed and overseen by the high priest from the family-line of Zadok.

6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD,
To serve him, and to love the name of the LORD,
To be his servants,
Every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it,
And taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain,
And make them joyful in my house of prayer:
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar;
For mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith,
Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.
Isaiah 56:6–8.

And the Torah/Law will also be existing refuting your belief that the Mosaic Law is "obsolete."

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations
Which came against Jerusalem
Shall even go up from year to year
To worship the King, the LORD of hosts,
And to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zech. 14:16.

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.
16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.
17 For thus saith the LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;
18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.
Jer. 33:14–18.

Please, you need to do more studying of the things you comment and respond to in my threads. I'd prefer that before you reply to any of my threads and comments that you make sure you know the Scripture. It gets tedious form me to continue repeating myself to every new participant who think they know the Word of when they don't.

 

[brightfame52]

@jeremiah1five

Quite impossible.
The Abrahamic Covenant is between God and Abram the Hebrew and his seed. Gentiles do not come from his seed or his loins.

False, the Covenant is made with Abrahams Spiritual Seed Christ, Christ isnt literally Abrahams Physical Seed, He was never in the loins of Abraham physically Gal 3:16

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

And their is a Federal Union of Christ and Body the Church, so the Abrahamic Promises are #1 In Christ Abrahams Spiritual Seed, #2 Spiritual in Nature #3 and includes Christs Spiritual Seed in Him, for He and they are One.

 

[civic]

@jeremiah1five



False, the Covenant is made with Abrahams Spiritual Seed Christ, Christ isnt literally Abrahams Physical Seed, He was never in the loins of Abraham physically Gal 3:16

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

And their is a Federal Union of Christ and Body the Church, so the Abrahamic Promises are #1 In Christ Abrahams Spiritual Seed, #2 Spiritual in Nature #3 and includes Christs Spiritual Seed in Him, for He and they are One.

You are denying Israel, the Jews- nothing but replacement theology. Thats your calvinism coming out once again and reading into scripture things that are not there and which contradict all the promises of Gods people the Jews. The gentiles ( YOU ) were grafted in the Vine ( Israel ). Try reading Romans 9-11. After the fulness of the gentiles is reached ( yet to come ) God will resume His plans with His chosen people and fulfill all the promises that have yet to be fulfilled with their land and Christ rule during His Millennial Kingdom. You spiritualize that as well when its a literal reigning from Jerusalem. This fits in perfectly with Romans 9-11.

 

[brightfame52]

You are denying Israel, the Jews- nothing but replacement theology. Thats your calvinism coming out once again and reading into scripture things that are not there and which contradict all the promises of Gods people the Jews. The gentiles ( YOU ) were grafted in the Vine ( Israel ). Try reading Romans 9-11. After the fulness of the gentiles is reached ( yet to come ) God will resume His plans with His chosen people and fulfill all the promises that have yet to be fulfilled with their land and Christ rule during His Millennial Kingdom. You spiritualize that as well when its a literal reigning from Jerusalem. This fits in perfectly with Romans 9-11.

You are deceived into thinking Im denying the jews, that i cant help you with

 

[Affinity]

You are deceived into thinking Im denying the jews, that i cant help you with

You are deceived into thinking that @civic needs any help defending the true gospel.

 

[brightfame52]

You are deceived into thinking that @civic needs any help defending the true gospel.

Okay you entitled to your opinion

 

[Redeemed]

You are deceived into thinking that @civic needs any help defending the true gospel.

I second that opinion.

 

[koberstein]

There are laws and ways of relating to God from the old Covenant which are not carried foward into the New. We have now a more perfect covenant, and it behooves us to follow it.

It also would behoove everyone to study and follow the tanakh as well, because it is still valid and contains unfulfilled
prophecy, instructions for righteous living, promises,and points to Yeshua Messiah through the feasts and the holidays.
A good book for people to read that was written in the first century church by the 12 Messianic apostles is the
Jewish Didache. These were teachings to the Gentiles. This book is available on Amazon.

 

[koberstein]

There are laws and ways of relating to God from the old Covenant which are not carried foward into the New. We have now a more perfect covenant, and it behooves us to follow it.

What makes that more perfect covenant? It is Yeshua Hamashiach which is the second Adam, and the second Moses.
Continual animal sacrifices are no longer needed for covering of sins. Yeshua is the one-time sacrifice that was offered
for the complete remission of sins.

 

[koberstein]

Do you ever quote the New testament?

Do you believe it?

Hebrews 8:7–13 (ESV) — 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second. 8 For he finds fault with them when he says: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 9 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they did not continue in my covenant, and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 11 And they shall not teach, each one his neighbor and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. 12 For I will be merciful toward their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more.” 13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews 10:1–18 (ESV) — 1 For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near. 2 Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, since the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have any consciousness of sins? 3 But in these sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. 5 Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he said, “Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, but a body have you prepared for me; 6 in burnt offerings and sin offerings you have taken no pleasure. 7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come to do your will, O God, as it is written of me in the scroll of the book.’ ” 8 When he said above, “You have neither desired nor taken pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings and sin offerings” (these are offered according to the law), 9 then he added, “Behold, I have come to do your will.” He does away with the first in order to establish the second. 10 And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13 waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. 14 For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified. 15 And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for after saying, 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds,” 17 then he adds, “I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more.” 18 Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering for sin.

My own view is that the Torah is eternal, and the New Testament has not abrogated it. But in its totality the Torah must be understood
and interpreted in the light of what Yeshua the Messiah and the rest of the New Covenant Scriptures have said about it.

 

[koberstein]

wordlaws and ways of relating to God from the old Covenant which are not carried foward into the New. We have now a more perfect covenant, and it behooves us to follow it.

Christianity organizes systematic theology by subjects it considers important. Thus topic like the Holy Spirit and the
person and work of the Messiah take a healthy amount of space in any Christian theology. Judaism too organizes its
theological thinking into categories reflecting its concerns, it three main topics are God, Israel (that is the Jewish people)
and Torah. Comparing Jewish and Christian theology, one find that both devote much attention to God and to the people
of God (in this case the Jews, in the other the Church). It is all the more striking, therefore, to notice how much Jewish
thought and how little Christian theology addresses the topic of Torah---generally rendered in English as "Law," although
the meaning of the Hebrew word is "teaching." And that is unfortunate for Christians. It means, first, that most Christians
have an overly simplistic understanding of what the Law is all about; and, second, that Christianity has almost nothing
relevant to say to Jews about one of the three most important issues of their faith. In short, Torah is the great unexplored
territory, the terra incognita of Christian theology.

The main reason for this is that Christian theology, with the anti-Jewish bias it incorporated in its early centuries, misunderstood
Sha'ul [Paul] and concluded that the Torah is no longer in force. This is not the Jewish Gospel, nor is it the true Gospel. It is
time for Christians to understand the truth about the Law. Christian theologians in the last thirty years have made a beginning.
Messianic Jews should now move to the front lines and spearhead this process.

Consider Romans 10:4 which states---in a typical but wrong translation---"For Christ ends the law and brings righteousness
for everyone who has faith." Like this translator, most theologians understand the verse to that Yeshua terminated the Torah.
But the Greek word translated "ends" is telos, from which English gets the word "teleology" defined in Webster's Third
International Dictionary as "The Philosophical study of the designs in nature; by the design of a divine Providence.
The normal meaning of telos in Greek---which is also its meaning here---is "goal, purpose, consummation," not termination.
The Messiah did not and does not bring the Torah to an end. Rather, attention to and faith in the Messiah is the goal and
purpose towards which the Torah aims, the logical consequence, result and consummation of observing Torah out of genuine
faith, as opposed to trying to observe it out of legalism. This, is not the termination of the Torah, is Sha'ul's point, as can be
seen from the context, Romans 9:30-10:11.

 

[TomL]

Christianity organizes systematic theology by subjects it considers important. Thus topic like the Holy Spirit and the
person and work of the Messiah take a healthy amount of space in any Christian theology. Judaism too organizes its
theological thinking into categories reflecting its concerns, it three main topics are God, Israel (that is the Jewish people)
and Torah. Comparing Jewish and Christian theology, one find that both devote much attention to God and to the people
of God (in this case the Jews, in the other the Church). It is all the more striking, therefore, to notice how much Jewish
thought and how little Christian theology addresses the topic of Torah---generally rendered in English as "Law," although
the meaning of the Hebrew word is "teaching." And that is unfortunate for Christians. It means, first, that most Christians
have an overly simplistic understanding of what the Law is all about; and, second, that Christianity has almost nothing
relevant to say to Jews about one of the three most important issues of their faith. In short, Torah is the great unexplored
territory, the terra incognita of Christian theology.

The main reason for this is that Christian theology, with the anti-Jewish bias it incorporated in its early centuries, misunderstood
Sha'ul [Paul] and concluded that the Torah is no longer in force. This is not the Jewish Gospel, nor is it the true Gospel. It is
time for Christians to understand the truth about the Law. Christian theologians in the last thirty years have made a beginning.
Messianic Jews should now move to the front lines and spearhead this process.

Consider Romans 10:4 which states---in a typical but wrong translation---"For Christ ends the law and brings righteousness
for everyone who has faith." Like this translator, most theologians understand the verse to that Yeshua terminated the Torah.
But the Greek word translated "ends" is telos, from which English gets the word "teleology" defined in Webster's Third
International Dictionary as "The Philosophical study of the designs in nature; by the design of a divine Providence.
The normal meaning of telos in Greek---which is also its meaning here---is "goal, purpose, consummation," not termination.
The Messiah did not and does not bring the Torah to an end. Rather, attention to and faith in the Messiah is the goal and
purpose towards which the Torah aims, the logical consequence, result and consummation of observing Torah out of genuine
faith, as opposed to trying to observe it out of legalism. This, is not the termination of the Torah, is Sha'ul's point, as can be
seen from the context, Romans 9:30-10:11.

Bottom-line we are in the New Covenant. Ritual sacrifices are a thing of the past and we relate to God through Christ not the types and shaddows any more.

 

[TomL]

My own view is that the Torah is eternal, and the New Testament has not abrogated it. But in its totality the Torah must be understood
and interpreted in the light of what Yeshua the Messiah and the rest of the New Covenant Scriptures have said about it.

So you think ritualistic sacrifices should be practiced eternally? Dietary laws and feast days forever celebrated?

 

[TomL]

What makes that more perfect covenant? It is Yeshua Hamashiach which is the second Adam, and the second Moses.
Continual animal sacrifices are no longer needed for covering of sins. Yeshua is the one-time sacrifice that was offered
for the complete remission of sins.

And the permanent indwelling of the Spirit which awaited Christ's glorification

John 7:38–39 (KJV 1900) — 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

 

[TomL]

It's not an assumption. The Bible does address the false belief that God cast away His people which He foreknew. IT IS a false belief of Gentiles.

Your claim regarding what I believe. Did you not read?

I stated

You assume a lot. I stated nothing about jews being cast away

There is no "reentering." Israel was never outside their covenants with God. Not even when it says God divorced His Bride who is Israel were the covenants made void or Israel (God's Bride) ever not in covenant.
Israel may have turned to idols in their history, but God is not a man that He should lie. HE WILL keep all His promises made to these distinct and separated people.

ER they were cuttoff

Romans 11:19–20 (KJV 1900) — 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

The Torah/Law is God's Word. The Word is God's Law/Torah.
If you want to say the Word of God is "obsolete" when it isn't then have at it. You seem hard-pressed to continue in your rejection of God's Word/Torah.

No matter how you slice it sacrificial law, dietary laws , ceremonial laws are not binding in the new covenant

Galatians 4:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? 10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. 11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Colossians 2:16–17 (ESV) — 16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. 17 These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.



Romans 14:4-5 (KJV)

4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Very convenient to exclude WHO God is 'speaking' to in Galatians, as well as all the letters from Saul. Saul is addressing Jewish Christians who had concerns about their standing in the Abrahamic Covenant especially after becoming Christ-followers (Christian.) It either "convenient" for you to post Galatians 3:27-29, or you're showing your ignorance of the Word of God and the things recorded in its pages concerning Israel's history and culture, their religion and their covenants.

Duh that mitagates against your position. If even Jewish Christians are not required to observe the things mentioned above how can you refer to them as eternal

See verses above

Let's take a closer, unbiased look at Saul's words in the passages of verses preceding your target verses:

23 But before faith came, we [Jews] were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our [Jews] schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we [Jews] might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we [Jews] are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye [Jews] are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you [Jews] as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye [Jews] are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye [Jews] be Christ’s, then are ye [Jews] Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to
the promise. Gal. 3:22–29.

Gentiles have never been recipient of the covenant promises God made to the children of Israel. As you can read Saul is addressing Jewish Christians who had concerns of being a Christ-follower (Christian) and Saul re-assured them in this letter that Christ adds to the covenant with Abraham, and they remain children/seed of Abraham.

sorry but the following passage refutes you

Ephesians 2:11–19 (KJV 1900) — 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

previous status

strangers from the covenants of promise,
Status after faith in Christ

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Your claims are unbiblical

It is. And the Feasts shall also be observed while the sacrifices will be performed and overseen by the high priest from the family-line of Zadok.

6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD,
To serve him, and to love the name of the LORD,
To be his servants,
Every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it,
And taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain,
And make them joyful in my house of prayer:
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar;
For mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith,
Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.
Isaiah 56:6–8.

And the Torah/Law will also be existing refuting your belief that the Mosaic Law is "obsolete."

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations
Which came against Jerusalem
Shall even go up from year to year
To worship the King, the LORD of hosts,
And to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zech. 14:16.

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.
16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.
17 For thus saith the LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;
18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.
Jer. 33:14–18.

Please, you need to do more studying of the things you comment and respond to in my threads. I'd prefer that before you reply to any of my threads and comments that you make sure you know the Scripture. It gets tedious form me to continue repeating myself to every new participant who think they know the Word of when they don't.

 

[koberstein]

Bottom-line we are in the New Covenant. Ritual sacrifices are a thing of the past and we relate to God through Christ not the types and shaddows any more.

There is no bottom line. We are in both covenants. There is unfulfilled prophecy in the Old Testament that is yet to happen.
If you don't believe me go ahead and rip the Old Testament out of your Bible, so then you can only have one covenant.

 

[TomL]

There is no bottom line. We are in both covenants. There is unfulfilled prophecy in the Old Testament that is yet to happen.
If you don't believe me go ahead and rip the Old Testament out of your Bible, so then you can only have one covenant.

Nope
Old covenant sacrifices are abolished. We are not required to observe days, months, times and years



Romans 14:4-5 (KJV)

4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.



Galatians 4:9-11 (KJV)

9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.