jeremiah1five
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Yes, for His elect people Israel and for Gentile Christians.
Too bad centuries of Gentile Christians will have to answer for rejecting His Law for living towards Him and among themselves.
God Has Made No Covenant With Gentiles
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Too bad centuries of Gentile Christians will have to answer for rejecting His Law for living towards Him and among themselves.
They were brought into it
Before
Ephesians 2:11–12 (ESV) — 11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— 12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
After
Ephesians 2:13–22 (ESV) — 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.
jeremiah1five
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Why do Gentiles focus all their reading in the New Covenant writings written to the Jews and Jewish Christians at the expense of the Hebrew Scriptures upon which the New Covenant writings are based?
Jesus Himself said if you don't understand and believe Moses you cannot understand and believe Him.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? Jn 5:45–47.
Because the Gentile believers from the second century onward did not have the Hebrew Scriptures, they were left without a guide that explained what happened to them and what it meant overall in their lives. For the next 200 years Gentiles did not have access to the Hebrew Scriptures nor were there Jews to explain all that was necessary to understand God's redemptive history with the Hebrews and the people that came to be known as Jews. In effect, the Gentiles founded a new religion that had no Hebrew roots. No Abraham, no Moses, no Judges, no Joshua, no David or Solomon nor the Hebrew prophets and through this lack did not fully understand Hebrew history, culture, concepts, Judaism, prophets and prophecy, or anything which had to do with their experiences and how to place them in context to the ongoing redemptive plan of God. They were ignorant. And since the oracles of God were in Jewish possession the Gentiles made things up as they went along and as time passed. Gentile writers wrote from a Gentile mindset perspective completely void of Christianity's Hebrew roots. Gentiles saw that since Israel was destroyed and scattered throughout the Roman Empire and beyond (uttermost parts of the earth) believed God had cast away His people and that as more and more Gentiles were being born-again saw themselves as replacing Israel in the plan of God.
But they were very wrong. They had no Hebrew foundation. And today millions of Gentiles do not know the Hebrew roots of true, biblical Christianity and in this ignorance, Gentiles end up with a religion which has no Hebrew/Jewish roots or foundation. Terms like "Church" and "Bride" and "covenant" and others began to be applied to Gentiles. Israel's inheritance Promised them by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were stolen by Gentiles. And because of these facts Gentiles practice a Christianity without Christ and retain such a depth of heresy in their belief system that God will eventually address when the two witnesses of Revelation come on the scene and prophesy things pertaining to Israel at the exclusion of Gentiles and in that day Gentiles will in turn become jealous and turn against Israel as there are signs of that taking place in all the nations today in light of the present Israel-Hamas War. When God says He will gather all the nations of the earth against Israel in Zechariah 14:2 Gentile Christians will be among those aligned with Israel's enemies against Israel, but God will destroy everyone that comes against His Covenant people.
Christ's return bears this out. Christ comes to fight alongside Israel against every non-Hebrew who fight against Israel.
But there is much history to cover, and I am not going to put the work in only to have you and other ignorant Gentiles express and exhibit unbelief and rejection of God's Law/Torah. I used to be like you and other Gentiles that are deceived and walk around in a great delusion. I used to believe the New Covenant writings of Saul, James, Peter, John, etc. were written to Gentiles but not anymore. God has saw fit to open my eyes and in turn I share what He's taught me about this "so-great salvation" and Israel's true place in redemptive history and I am no longer deceived or deluded as before. God has literally made me to come out from among them and become separate.
So, if Jesus Himself says that because anyone does not believe and understand Moses, they will neither believe of understand Him.
Those are His words, and He is telling the truth.
From my reading of Scripture, I tell you now it does not end well for Gentiles, even those that say they are Christian.
Judgment is coming upon the earth, and NO ONE shall escape.
Not even those that are Gentile and say they are "Christian."
Why do you ignore the New Covenant to concentrate on the obsolete Old covenant
Hebrews 8:13 (NASB 2020) — 13 When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is about to disappear.
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jeremiah1five
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All three covenants build upon the one that went before and if you understood the purpose of the Mosaic Covenant and its use by God in His Redemptive Plan then you wouldn't say that God's Eternal Covenant is truly "obsolete."
Jeremiah says God will put His Law (Mosaic Law) in the inwards parts of those identified as the House of Israel and Judah. There is connection between Christ, the Torah, and all the prophetic events described in Scripture in Israel's past, present, and future then you wouldn't say God's Law is "obsolete." God's Law is His Word and His Word is not obsolete. Especially since Isaiah says:
11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:
It shall not return unto me void,
But it shall accomplish that which I please,
And it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Isaiah 55:11.
Teaching the Word of God is "obsolete" is to oppose God whose Law/Torah post-cross has a purpose in the salvation of individuals and what occurs after their salvation. In other words, the command to not have other gods before us or to not take the Name of the LORD in vain is still in existence and has great value. What you're doing is trying to create a doctrine around a single verse, and a verse which you have not properly understood when there are countless passages of Scripture that establish God's Word as pertinent to the salvation of persons. Here, this is what Saul said:
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal. 3:24.
By your saying the Law is obsolete is putting a time limit on the eternal Word of God as everything has not yet been fulfilled and the use of the Law is necessary towards the salvation of ANYONE whom God will save. In other words, you are destroying (but not really) God's ability to save people. No one can be saved without God's Law/Torah as Saul states the Law is necessary for salvation. If the Law is "obsolete" as you say, then no one can be saved without the Law, but people are being saved thus proving the Law/Torah is NOT obsolete but has a purpose in God's plan for His people. Everything in God's Law/Torah points to Christ, If the Law is "obsolete" then there is nothing to point a soul to Christ.
You greatly misunderstand the covenants' purpose in not only pointing someone to Christ but also being that very same Law by which God judges ALL people at the end of days.
You are saying God's Law/Torah is "obsolete" but you are in error. Serious error.
koberstein
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Messianic Jews (Hebrews) 8:13
By using the term, "new," he has made the first covenant "old"; and something being
made old, something in the process of aging, is on its way to vanishing altogether. Messianic Jewish Version
By using the term, "new" he has made the first covenant "old". Is one to infer that the Jewish holidays,
Shabbat, kashrut, civil laws, and moral laws of the Mosaic Covenant are on the verge of vanishing
altogether? No! The Mosaic Covenant presents itself as eternal. The "old" Torah continues, and
continues to have its same purpose, but there is a new High Priest introduced.
But "a transformation of Torah" does not imply its abolition. Specific rules are set aside---
for example, the Torah has to be adjusted to take account of Yeshua's role as cohen gadol [high priest]
Yet the Torah itself continues in force and is to be observed, just as the Constitution is not abolished
by being amended.
Yeshua's second coming is "near" but it has not happened yet! Likewise, although the "first" or
"old" covenant (i.e. Mosaic Covenant) is "near vanishing." "it has not yet vanished, but is in the
"process of aging". As I write I am 70 years old, and I too am in the process of aging; but I hope
that no one will treat me as if I have vanished.---at least not for awhile! We do not know when the
"old" covenant will vanish; but we do know that Yeshua said, "Until heaven and earth pass away,
not so much as ayudor a stroke will pass from the Torah---not until everything that must happen
has happened. Meanwhile, the Mosaic Covenant is here to be observed and not broken from
our side (even though our fathers did break it), since it was never been broken from God's side.
I have to disagree. We are currently in the New Covenant
The near vanishing was 2000 years ago
2 Corinthians 3:6 (ESV) — 6 who has made us sufficient to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Hebrews 9:15 (ESV) — 15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.
Hebrews 12:22–24 (ESV) — 22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
Er scripture not me said it
And sacrificial and ritual laws of the old covenant are not binding under the New covenant
brightfame52
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Thats False, In Christ their Head a Covenant was made with them and they because of Him are children of the covenant and of promise Isa 42:6
6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
Acts 3:25
25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Now heres the Gospel preached to Abraham Gal 3:8
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
koberstein
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The old covenants are still in force. If you don't believe me see what happens if you offend or curse a Jew. Read Genesis 12:3
Scripture
2 Corinthians 3:6 (ESV) — 6 who has made us sufficient to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Hebrews 9:15 (ESV) — 15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.
Hebrews 12:22–24 (ESV) — 22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
jeremiah1five
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As he said, you are in error. But Gentiles have long held to the false belief that just because Israel came under judgment - and they are in covenant - and the Second Jewish Temple was destroyed, Gentiles came under the false understanding not knowing Scripture that God had "cast away His people" but Saul says in several places "God forbid!" (i.e. Not true!)
Let me explain something to you that if received will - or should - add another dimension to your understanding of the existence and purpose of God's Torah. You hit on it in posting 2 Cor. 3:6 but you haven't fully understood why the "letter" kills and the Spirit gives life.
The Torah is God's instruction to the Hebrew people which guides every aspect of their daily life. It reveals the way in which God is to be worshiped (Leviticus, Ten Commandments, etc.) as well as how the twelve tribes were to relate and live amongst themselves (ibid.). Just as we have Constitutional laws in general which do the same things and every state in the union draws up their own laws locally and on the state level according to their need. State laws were to be judged by our Supreme Court to conform to the Constitution. Israel did the same thing. God gave them His Torah and their Talmud and other authoritative writings were like 'state and local laws' that were supposed to conform to God's Torah. The Talmud contains some very insightful renderings by priests and scribes of their Torah. Gentiles copied their behaviors when manuscripts were written by people like Origen, Augustine, Calvin, etc., and our modern-day commentators. And Gentile Christians do the same thing in exalting commentaries above the Word of God, such as what is the norm in Christendom today. You in this present issue and subject are doing just that. But let me continue.
Do you know what type and shadow is? Do you understand symbolism? Well, everything in the Tabernacle was given by God with symbolism and shadow attached to every item in the Tabernacle, everything. There was the bread of life, the altar, the Ark of the Covenant and the items contained in this Ark. There were candles and candlesticks, even the light itself. All of it representing some aspect of the life and ministry and purpose of Israel's promised Messiah as revealed by Moses. And he wrote most about this coming Redeemer. Even the Torah represented something which was shadow to something in the future to have a substantial (substance) fulfillment. In short, the Torah was type and shadow of the Promised Holy Spirit. He is the Law God promised to put in the inward parts of His covenant Hebrew people. The Ten Commandments were written with the very finger of God as other Laws were written by the very hand of Moses guided by the same Holy Spirit just as the apostles in were guided by the Holy Spirit their writings.
Saul said the Law is spiritual and he was carnal. This is why the 'letter' of the Law killed. But once we are converted, we become spiritual beings, and the Law can no longer kill us. When Jesus was casting out devils with the finger of God, He was declaring that HE was the kingdom of God in Person. The reign of God over His people was there in the Person of Jesus Christ. At the time Jesus said this there was no northern or southern kingdom. Their land was occupied territory. Gentiles underfoot trampled it. HE is the kingdom of God within us. It doesn't come with observation where one can say, "Lo it is here or there" unless they were pointing to Christ Himself.
Some of the Torah was written in stone and instructed and guided the children of Israel from without, but upon our conversion God's places His Law (the Holy Spirit) within us and God leads and guides us from within. Although we still do sin, none of our sins condemns us before God because in our conversion and through our Substitute, Jesus Christ, He was the One who obeyed every precept of the Law in our stead and in this and in Him we find our justification and righteousness imputed to us and in the eyes of God He sees us through the finished work of Christ and declared us "Not Guilty!" of transgressing His Law and we are given the Holy Spirit which dwells in us by which we can discern spiritually that we are the children of God and can now cry, "Abba, Father," In our conversion when we sin the Holy Spirit within us convicts us and we are able with His help and Intercession able to address our sin and failings and be cleansed relationally to God and able to be forgiven upon our repentance and go forward to live under God's Torah/Law day in and day out until His Return and even beyond that Day. So, when the ignorant say the Torah/Law is "abolished" or "obsolete" they are in effect saying the Holy Spirit is "abolished" and "obsolete," and this is the same as denying the Lord that bought them. Effectually, those that say such a thing is an antichrist.
The Torah will find its place in the lives of believers in our present era, and during the Millennium, and even after the Millennium as it is this very Law which God put in our inward parts to lead and guide us in our new lives. If the Torah/Law is "obsolete" or "abolished" - which it isn't - then upon what does God rule and reign over His people? What laws do we follow and obey? And how are we to relate and live safely and peaceably among our brethren and believing neighbors? And they to us? But through God's Torah/Law within us and God's Spirit within us (one and the same thing) we are able without condemnation before God to move about and have our being.
Instead of saying the Torah/Holy Spirit is "abolished" or "obsolete" you should now that you've been educated say that Christ lives in my as His Law and through His Spirit and stop committing blasphemy by saying the Holy Spirit is "abolished" or "obsolete." Stop denying the Lord.
Christ Jesus may be the Mediator of the New Covenant, but its reality substance, and application is found in the Holy Spirit. He is in the world today applying to the elect at the appointed time the salvation bought by the Son on His cross. Nailing the Law upon His cross joined the Holy Spirit (who is the Law) to the salvation that comes through Him. It was never the end or the abolishment of the Law but a new beginning as a spiritual being could now be led from within through the Law/Holy Spirit that dwells within him (or her.)
Now that you have been educated, I have done my part, washed my hands, and now your life in relation to God is in your hands.
Continue to reject God's Law and its existence in within you in the Person of the Holy Spirit or continue in your sin of their rejection by you.
You assume a lot. I stated nothing about jews being cast away
As he said, you are in error. But Gentiles have long held to the false belief that just because Israel came under judgment - and they are in covenant - and the Second Jewish Temple was destroyed, Gentiles came under the false understanding not knowing Scripture that God had "cast away His people" but Saul says in several places "God forbid!" (i.e. Not true!)
The question on what ground will they reenter. it seems you might imagine it will be under old covenant law and rituals but have not a shred of proof for.
You wish to re-install that which is obsolete and was ready to vanish 2000 years ago, beggarly elements
and teach contrary to inspired scripture
Galatians 3:27–29 (KJV 1900) — 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
running afoul of verses such as
Colossians 2:16-17 (KJV)
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Galatians 4:9–11 (KJV 1900) — 9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? 10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. 11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
The idea there will be a 1000 year millenium upon the return of Christ replete with old testament sacrifices and law is not taught in the New Testament
koberstein
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I will go one step further in my last response. At Zechariah 2: 8 God says "He who touches you"---the Jewish people---
"touches the apple of my eye" that is the pupil, the most sensitive and useful part. At Genesis 12:3 God assures Abraham,
the father of the Jewish people, "I will bless those who bless you and curse them who curses you."
I also believe that Gentiles Christian or not that deny the Old Covenant is a very subtle form of antisemitism.
Do you ever quote the New testament?
Do you believe it?
Hebrews 8:7–13 (ESV) — 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second. 8 For he finds fault with them when he says: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 9 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they did not continue in my covenant, and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 11 And they shall not teach, each one his neighbor and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. 12 For I will be merciful toward their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more.” 13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Hebrews 10:1–18 (ESV) — 1 For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near. 2 Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, since the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have any consciousness of sins? 3 But in these sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. 5 Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he said, “Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, but a body have you prepared for me; 6 in burnt offerings and sin offerings you have taken no pleasure. 7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come to do your will, O God, as it is written of me in the scroll of the book.’ ” 8 When he said above, “You have neither desired nor taken pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings and sin offerings” (these are offered according to the law), 9 then he added, “Behold, I have come to do your will.” He does away with the first in order to establish the second. 10 And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13 waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. 14 For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified. 15 And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for after saying, 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds,” 17 then he adds, “I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more.” 18 Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering for sin.
koberstein
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Gentiles in the Church take one of four positions toward Messianic Jews: for us, against us, ignoring us, or using us.
The most common stance is to ignore us. Not that we are ignored as people, we are ignored as Jews. It is assumed
that the middle wall of partition's being broken down means that we Jews are supposed to act like Gentiles. Our
Jewish concerns concern no one else, so that the Jewish aspect of our being simply has to be put one ice. This is,
of course, precisely the opposite of what the New Testament teaches. Sha'ul insisted that the Gentiles did not have
to act like Jews to become Christians. The opposite possibility, that the Jews in the Church would one day be expected
to act like Gentiles, did not occur to him; but it is unthinkable that he would have countenanced it. Indeed, proving
that he was not teaching Jews to abandon the Torah of Moses cost him his freedom---and ultimately perhaps
his life.
Other Gentiles use us. I will add only that although putting a Jewish believer on display is nearly always a matter not
of malice but enthusiasm, it would be better to meet him as a person and learn what his needs and abilities are, so that
he can serve the Body as he should.
There are two ways of being against us. Churches still exist where a Jewish believer is unwelcome simple because he
is Jewish. I praise God that I have not encountered them, but I hear stories. Clearly the phenomenon was more wide-
spread in times past, when cultural conformity was more easily mistaken for theological orthodoxy. In those days, the
Gentile Christians, not knowing how to deal with this oddity in their midst, the believing Jew, tended to distance
themselves from him or look down on him as a second-class Christian. The second form of opposition I encounter
from Gentile Christians is not to me as a person or as a Jew, but to my desire to foster a movement, to develop
Messianic Judaism as a viable communal expression of New Testament faith. The reasons for such opposition are
generally not personal but theological; nevertheless, I believe they are wrong.
Finally, there is the attitude I like to see---favor. There are Gentile Christians who understand that there is a Jewish
component to my nature, that I have ambitions for Messianic Judaism as a communal movement, that the Church
need to appreciate its own Jewish background more and understand the Jewish people better, and that they as
Christians are grafted into a Jewish root. When we Messianic Jews find ourselves surrounded by such Gentile
Christians encouraging, nurturing and supporting us, I am sure that our Church neuroses will drop away.
The Messianic Jewish response to the problem of assimilation is that a Jew does not need to stop being Jewish
when he believes in Jewish Messiah, Yeshua. In fact, many Jews become more Jewishly conscience when they
come to New Testament faith, rather than less.
koberstein
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Do you ever read the Old Testament and know the Jewish roots to your faith? I have quoted and read the Brit Hadashah (New Testament). The Tanakh (Old Tesament) is the foundation for the New Testament.
The Bible is a Jewish book written by Jews for Jews initially in the Jewish land of Israel.
People who deny the Old Testament in which all the covenants are still valid usually are biblically illiterate and when you pull back the veneer there probably are other biblical things they deny, which could be construed as slightly antisemitic. You can't have the New Testament without the Old Testament.
Try not to take the New Testament scripture out of context. It's not a good look for you.
I do not deny the Old Testament but I know we are living under the new covenant
Jewish exclusivity has been done away with in Christ
Ephesians 2:13–19 (ESV) — 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17 And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,
koberstein
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You are living under the New Covenant with living roots to the valid Old Tesament. The laws of our land have root to the Law of Moses or the 10 commandments. Are you going to deny that? The New Testament affirms the Old Testament. You can't have a
second floor in a home without the first floor.
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There are laws and ways of relating to God from the old Covenant which are not carried foward into the New. We have now a more perfect covenant, and it behooves us to follow it.
