Favoritism in Unconditional Election

[praise_yeshua]

No. Because it is unconditional. Don't tell me what to do. Thank you

Remember what you said?

Try to stay on topic there Mr experience.

Don't tell me what to do. Thank you.

Yes I have more experience. That is why I don't make silly arguments like this....

 

[praise_yeshua]

No. Because it is unconditional. Don't tell me what to do. Thank you

Remember what you said?

We're not talking about the death of Christ.

Is the death of Christ unconditional?

 

[Presby02]

Remember what you said?


Don't tell me what to do. Thank you.

Yes I have more experience. That is why I don't make silly arguments like this....

Your welcome.

You do not make arguments. You simply attack like your on a playground. Your immature and make childish boisterous claims.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Your welcome.

You do not make arguments. You simply attack like your on a playground. Your immature and make childish boisterous claims.

Do you not recognize that you told me "something to do" and then required that I not tell "YOU" what to do?

Carnality/ immaturity cause such errors like you made. You're a novice. I tell the Truth. I don't lie. Truth always hurts more than lies. You're wounded. You should be. It is true.

 

[brightfame52]

Did Christ have to die for you?

Read what I stated

 

[brightfame52]

@The Rogue Tomato

This is why "this is the work of God that you believe in Him whom He has sent" can't mean "this is the work required by God".

Correct

If believing is the work required by God then grace is no longer grace, since work was required to be saved.

Exactly

 

[Presby02]

Do you not recognize that you told me "something to do" and then required that I not tell "YOU" what to do?

Carnality/ immaturity cause such errors like you made. You're a novice. I tell the Truth. I don't lie. Truth always hurts more than lies. You're wounded. You should be. It is true.

Good to see you follow my lead. Your learning. Slowly. Baby steps.

A novice? Look who is talking.

 

[Presby02]

Remember what you said?



Is the death of Christ unconditional?

Nothing to do with election. Rabbit trail time
The topic is election

 

[praise_yeshua]

Read what I stated

I have several times now. I asked additional questions and we have extended dialogue concerning what you said. You're just repeating yourself without answering.

 

[brightfame52]

I have several times now. I asked additional questions and we have extended dialogue concerning what you said. You're just repeating yourself without answering.

Okay, then answered

 

[Bob Carabbio]

@atpollard



I can't help but see the lack of self awareness in Calvinism with such statements.

Just how does this work? You have a Calvinist claiming "lack of favoritism"... by appealing to "favoritism". They actually believe they are destroying the idea of favoritism with the claim that God choose them. (favoritism)

To add to this "folly"...... "boondoggle". They openly boast of God's choice in themselves with said silly doctrine.

Sorry... it is very obvious that you have a "condition" associated with your claims of "unconditional" election.

The "U" in "Tulip" is misleading. God apparently has "criteria" that He applies before Drawing a person to Jesus. WE DON'T KNOW anything about that, however.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Nothing to do with election. Rabbit trail time
The topic is election

The death of Christ has nothing to do with Election? Can you quote your favorite theologian on this?

 

[civic]

The "U" in "Tulip" is misleading. God apparently has "criteria" that He applies before Drawing a person to Jesus. WE DON'T KNOW anything about that, however.

Yes it’s wrong

 

[civic]

The death of Christ has nothing to do with Election? Can you quote your favorite theologian on this?

Everything in theology regarding man involves the gospel and the atonement. To exclude election is baffling

 

[TedT]

I've never promoted Origen. He was at the very least an extraordinarily dishonest man.

Origen was flawed but not any more so than the Ecumenical Council of Constantinople, 453 CE, and other political Church Fathers...

 

[TedT]

There is no condition, hence the unconditional part of unconditional election.

IF there is no condition for election, then there is no condition for non-election or reprobation...an untenable stance in that it denigrates GOD's self revelation as Love and Light.

 

[synergy]

Origen was flawed but not any more so than the Ecumenical Council of Constantinople, 453 CE, and other political Church Fathers...

You don't believe in the Divinity of Christ, his 2 natures, his hypostatic union, the Divinity of the Holy Spirit, the Trinity, etc..? At those councils is where those doctrines and many other fundamental beliefs were nailed down.

 

[TedT]

Did Christ have to die for you?

Well, if election was the PROMISE (not decree) of salvation from any and all future sin, then yes, once He gave this promise He was obligated to die for us if we sinned. Being chosen to be the lamb slain from the foundations of the world points to this...

 

[TedT]

You don't believe in the Divinity of Christ, his 2 natures, his hypostatic union, the Divinity of the Holy Spirit, the Trinity, etc..? At those councils is where those doctrines and many other fundamental beliefs were nailed down.

Argument to absurdity...
Some of these 'many others' were in fault due to preconceptions.... they were not perfect and their theologies were not perfect.

 

[synergy]

Some of these 'many others' were in fault due ot preconceptions.... they were not perfect and their theologies were not perfect.

Which ones "were not perfect"?