Excellent Discussion on OSAS

[Jim]

Please explain: Romans 5:12 NASB95 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—

1 Corinthians 15:21-22
For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. / For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

Romans 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

I understand why you have posed the question concerning Romans 5:12 together with that of 1 Corinthians 15:21-22. It happens a lot. But I think it is really a mistake. The mistake comes from thinking that the death being spoken of in 1 Corinthians 15:21-22 is the same death being spoken of in Romans 5:12.But those are two separate and distinct deaths. In Romans 5:12, the death is the spiritual death due to sin; while in 1 Corinthians 15:221-22, the death is the physical death due to the inherent mortality of physical life.

It should be apparent that the resurrection of the dead is not the spiritual resurrection of being born again, which is something that only occurs with the repentant believer and happens during the life of the believer. That does not happen to all, but to only those being saved from their sins. The topic of discussion in 1 Corinthians 15:12-34 is the resurrection of the physically dead, the lost sinner and the saved saint alike.

The point of the discussion in 1 Corinthians is that there will absolutely be a resurrection of the dead. Just as real is the death of all mankind, that began with the one man Adam, so also is the reality of the resurrection which results from the one man Jesus Christ.

 

[MTMattie]

First, it should be pointed out that in the passage, Romans 3:21-5:21, Paul is establishing the all-sufficiency of grace as the way of salvation. In the last part of that, Romans 5:12-21, Paul is establishing the all-sufficiency of the death of Jesus Christ. Verse 12 begins with the word "therefore". Paul has just written the first eleven verses of chapter 5 making the case for the assurance of personal salvation. In beginning verse 12 with the word "therefore" he is about to show us how the death of Christ does indeed provide to each and every person the hope and confidence in one saving act (the death on the cross) of one man (Jesus Christ). The question that naturally arises is "How could what one man did at one time in all the history of mankind have such an absolute effect on mankind?"

In order to show that is not some far-fetched cockamamie idea, Paul begins by calling attention to the one man whose one act set the stage for the need for salvation of every person. Paul does that in verse 12: Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned--

Adam was the first human being. He was created by God. He was perfect. And yet, when confronted with the choice of doing what God said and doing what "the woman", i.e., Eve, wanted, Adam chose to disobey God and do what the woman wanted. In disobeying God, Adam sinned. In that one act of disobedience, the very first sin committed by a human being, sin entered God's creation. We could discuss why God is presenting Adam, not Eve, as the one person who introduced sin into God's creation, but I will leave that for another time.

Paul said sin came into the world. Here as I have indicated, "the world" here is this physical creation, the universe, the world of mankind. Sin had already entered the world of angels through the sin of Satan (1 John 3:8). Now God is telling us that sin entered the world of mankind through the one man, Adam. In that instance, Adam became dead in that sin. Adam spiritually died, just as God had said he would (Gen 3:3). The death being discussed in this final section, Romans 5:12-21, is all about spiritual death. It is the reason for the need for salvation.

But the real point of verse 12 is not that Adam sinned and died spiritually. The point is that while sin was introduced into the world of mankind and spiritual death through that sin, more importantly, death spread to all men. The question then becomes why spiritual death came to all men. The answer is made absolutely clear. Death came to all men because all men sinned.

There is of course an entire field of study as to why this is, that is, why all men sin. But the point here in verse 12 is that it is stated as fact. All men sin and because of that all men die spiritually. Adam started it and every man since has followed his example.

TYVM @Jim
You did touch briefly on A CURIOSITY. Eve sinned first but the charge was given to the man. It is not important but seems a great way to blame a woman for it all.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

You are talking about works that flow out from salvation.

yes

all other works are what scripture called bloody filthy rags

But those are not the works that are required to bring one to the point of salvation in the first place.

there are no works required for this, if their was. Jesus would have stayed in heaven

I can, and have, met the condition of perfection, because Jesus has given me His perfection in exchange for my filthy rags.

so your saying God took your menstral rags, or bloody rags (the literal translation) as payment for your sin.

talk about not knowing God..

This happened at the instant that I was baptized in His name when I was 14.

um no. You were not saved them, if you were not baptized with the spirit into Christ. your still dead in your sin

smh

yes. I do this all the time

Jesus did keep the Law perfectly. And then He set conditions upon our reception of His perfection.

He kept the law perfectly so he could be the lamb of God to save us who have failed to keep the law

thats what salvation is..

as paul said, we are no longer under the curse. because he became a curse for us

No, it is about the Church. Yes, it references how God related to ethnic Israel before Christ, but in Christ ethnic Israel doesn't matter. What matters is if you are in Christ or not in Christ.

No, it is not about the church.. it is about Israel

Israel is "restored" every time someone comes to Christ. As Rom 11:25-27 says, all Israel will not be saved until the all the Gentiles that are going to be saved are part of Israel. All the Jews who are not going to be saved are cut off already, and are no longer part of Israel (Rom 11:17, 20).

Nope. Read lev 26

here let me help you

40 ;‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me,
They not only confess for their own sin, but confessed their fathers also sinned
41 ;and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies;
if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—
They also confess. it is because of these sins, God has them living in the lands of their enemies, like they are today..

and they have to humble themselves and accept their guilt in the matter.
42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember;
I will remember the land.
God does not go back on his promises. and this has nothing to do with the church

So trusting in God to fulfill His promises is trusting in self?

You trust in self by your works. or as you call them your filthy rags

You must think I am God. But I am not God. I trust in Him, not myself. He sustains me and gives me strength; my strength does not come from myself.

You trust self man. everything you say is aboput self. You just admitted you gave God your filthy bloody rags as payment for your sin

come on man,, at lease admit what you believe don't run from it own it!

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

For that to be true then calvinism fails in one of 2 ways. They either do not believe 1) the Bible where it says that it's God's will that all are saved or they do not believe that 2) man is unconditionally elected for salvation. #2 is a pillar of calvinism so it's #1 where calvinists falter. Conclusion: They do not believe the Bible.

this is not about calvinism, this is about universalism

you appear to have CDS.

But since they vehemently state that they do believe all of the Bible then I have no other recourse than to call them universalists.

UNIVERSALIST STATE ALL ARE SAVED

CALVINIST REJECT THIS NOTION STAING ONLY THE ELECT WILL BE SAVED, ALL OTHERS WILL BE LOST

So THEY ARE NOT UNIVERSALIST


YOUR DESTROYING YOUR OWN INTEGRITY BY ATTACKING CALVINISM WITH A FAST TRUTH. IT HURTS NOT ONLY YOUR ARGUMENT AGAINST THEM, BUT PROVES YOUR HATE AGAINST THEM HAS YOU BLIND

@GodsGrace Aare you going to jump in. you claimed I was mistaken and misunderstood him.. do you see now I was correct in my assumption?

 

[synergy]

this is not about calvinism, this is about universalism

you appear to have CDS.

UNIVERSALIST STATE ALL ARE SAVED

CALVINIST REJECT THIS NOTION STAING ONLY THE ELECT WILL BE SAVED, ALL OTHERS WILL BE LOST

So THEY ARE NOT UNIVERSALIST


YOUR DESTROYING YOUR OWN INTEGRITY BY ATTACKING CALVINISM WITH A FAST TRUTH. IT HURTS NOT ONLY YOUR ARGUMENT AGAINST THEM, BUT PROVES YOUR HATE AGAINST THEM HAS YOU BLIND

@GodsGrace Aare you going to jump in. you claimed I was mistaken and misunderstood him.. do you see now I was correct in my assumption?

I don't hate them. You might project your hatred to others as you're doing now. That's a common psychological mechanism displayed by many so you're not alone.

 

[MTMattie]

yes

all other works are what scripture called bloody filthy rags

there are no works required for this, if their was. Jesus would have stayed in heaven

so your saying God took your menstral rags, or bloody rags (the literal translation) as payment for your sin.

talk about not knowing God..

um no. You were not saved them, if you were not baptized with the spirit into Christ. your still dead in your sin

Praise be to God.

yes. I do this all the time

He kept the law perfectly so he could be the lamb of God to save us who have failed to keep the law

thats what salvation is..

as paul said, we are no longer under the curse. because he became a curse for us

No, it is not about the church.. it is about Israel



Nope. Read lev 26

here let me help you

40 ;‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me,
They not only confess for their own sin, but confessed their fathers also sinned
41 ;and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies;
if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—
They also confess. it is because of these sins, God has them living in the lands of their enemies, like they are today..

and they have to humble themselves and accept their guilt in the matter.
42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember;
I will remember the land.
God does not go back on his promises. and this has nothing to do with the church

You trust in self by your works. or as you call them your filthy rags

You trust self man. everything you say is aboput self. You just admitted you gave God your filthy bloody rags as payment for your sin

come on man,, at lease admit what you believe don't run from it own it!

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

I don't hate them. You might project your hatred to others as you're doing now. That's a common psychological mechanism displayed by many so you're not alone.

lol

all one has to do is look at your posts against them

they are still not universalists..

 

[Jim]

Please explain: Romans 5:12 NASB95 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—

1 Corinthians 15:21-22
For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. / For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

Romans 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

I probably should pass on your request to explain Romans 5:19. I have done it so many times already here and elsewhere. Perhaps I will come back later to discuss it again in detail. I will note here that the main point in 5:12-21 is the one positive comparison between Adam and Christ. In this sense Adam is a type of Christ. But before Paul actually makes this comparison (5:18-19), he pauses to make it clear the in most ways Adam and Christ are very different. This he does briefly, parenthetically in verses 13-17. Note, specifically verse 15, where Paul says, "But the gift is not like the trespass". He goes on to point out that the effect of the gift is much greater for all men than was the effect of the trespass for all men.

When Paul gets to verse 18 and 19, he describes just how that can be. I will only say here that if the effect of the trespass, the disobedience, of Adam is the Original Sin of all who are born into the world, then the even much greater effect of the gift, the obedience, of Jesus is the Original Grace of all who are born into the world. The Original Grace due to the obedience of Christ on the cross negated any Original Sin due to the disobedience of Adam. It sets the basis for Paul's argument for the all-sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice for the sins of mankind which Paul then takes up in what follows beginning in verse 20 and beyond.

 

[Studyman]

Studyman, you are desperately trying to mix OT with the NT revelation of pure grace ~ not that there was no grace in the OT, it was indeed, but it was not the system they lived under and fully understood, that revelation came with Christ, and his gospel. Christ is the END OF THE LAW for righteousness.

Romans 10:4,5​

“For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them."

Remember who Paul is talking about here. This is shown when a person includes more than ONE verse in a conversation Paul was having. Here, let me show you how it works when a man considers all of Paul's words in this discussion,

Rom. 10: 1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, (They are sincere) but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant "of God's righteousness", and going about "to establish their own righteousness", have not "submitted themselves" unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

I believe these words 100%.

John 10: 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: "that ye may know", and believe, that "the Father is in me", and I in him.

I need look no further that the Lord's Christ, for righteousness and therefore forgiveness, as HE is The New High Priest "Of God". There are no more taking a goat to the Levite, no more sacrificial "works of the Law" for the remission of sins, as provided for in the Levitical Priesthood. The Sinner is not made righteous, or is not forgiven, or Sins are not atoned for, "By the Law". As it is written. " Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

Lev. 4: 27 And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty; 28 Or if his sin, which he hath sinned, come to his knowledge: then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned. 29 And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering in the place of the burnt offering. 30 And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar. 31 And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat is taken away from off the sacrifice of peace offerings; and the priest shall burn it upon the altar for a sweet savour unto the LORD; and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him.

This was the Law ADDED 340 years after Abraham "Yielded himself" a servant to obey God. This was the Law that was to lead them to God's True High Priest, as it did Zacharias. This is the "Righteousness, which is of the Law" that Moses described.

Jesus was "born under this law". But as you can see, HE forgave Sins and healed Lepers "Apart" from the Levitical Priesthood "works of the law".

True believers trust in Christ alone for their righteousness in order to enter into eternal life in the world to come, we dare not trust in works of the law, many of which you are trusting in, in order to please God and to be accpeted before him.

There was never a "LAW" that could take away sin Red. Only a Temporary Priesthood with carnal, sacrificial "works of the Law" put in place "Till the SEED should come".

9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, "as pertaining to the conscience;"

10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

You, like the Pharisees before you, refuse to accept the truth that the Levitical Priesthood was temporary in it's conception, while the commandments, Statutes and Judgments of God that you and they rejected, will not pass before Jesus returns.

I can't stop you from preaching your gospel, but I can warn others to take heed of it, and post what is actually written, when more than one verse is considered.

Just as Moses said: the righteousness that comes from the law can only come to a man, who lives according to each one of them perfectly, in thought, word, and deed ~ from conception until death, it shows NO MERCY in breaking one of them, a man must keep all of them perfectly.

Wow, so let me get this straight. In your religion, the God of Abraham is not a Merciful God, who Commanded perfect obedience to His Laws, like Jesus did, or be destroyed? Did signs and wonders in Egypt to convince men that HE is the God of Abraham so they would trust and Love Him, then when they did trust Him, He Placed impossible to obey Laws on their necks, like David, and showed "NO MERCY" to a any man that didn't keep them all perfectly.

I don't know whose god you are talking about Red. But it isn't the God and Father of the Lord's Christ.

God has given Red over this foolishness, but for you guys reading along, is this really the God and Father of the Lord's Christ as defined by Him and the Prophets?

It takes pretty big stones to Judge the God defined in the Bible, in such a false and evil way.

Sin in point point, that man is guilty of all of them and must die. Thereby, as I said: "True believers trust in Christ alone for their righteousness in order to enter into eternal life in the world to come, we dare not trust in works of the law" ~works can be defined as any commandment a man has an active part in, that would be considered as a work of the LAW..."This DO and live, sin, and die" is the language of Moses' law.

Who would not know these things, you are saying these things to hide your true purpose of clinging to Moses instead of 100% following the NT.

You make these outlandish statements that NO ONE is accusing you of...but, this is your MO in all of your post. You are either unable to debate properly, or, you are practicing deceit, which is very unchristian. The gentleman asked:

He never said that you refusing to kill goats for your sins is you going against God's commandments, that's you adding to his word to make you seem to be right in your overall teachings ~ he simple asked questions to help you see that Moses law had many commandments that are NOT enforce on us anymore, and that if you seek to keep some of them, then are you keeping all of them? if not, then you truly are not obeying Moses' law, it is just that simple. A wise man once said: Inconsistency is the hallmark of error being present!

It's fascinating and quite scary really, how the prince of this world can convince so many people, "Who call Jesus Lord, Lord", that to "Obey God", they must murder other men, stone other people to death, and if I don't, then I am a hypocrite and I am not obeying God, who they preach places unjust, impossible to obey Laws, on the necks of men who Love Him. And because I believe the Bible that God and His Word is Spiritual, and I know God didn't write the Scriptures for my admonition, so that I would murder other people, I am accused of "Spiritualizing" God's Laws, that Paul called Spiritual.

You guys can't even see the utter wickedness and hypocrisy vomiting out of your own heart, as Both of you guys promote up and down, and preach to the world that you saved "Saved by the Blood of Jesus", and that you have eaten the Flesh of Christ, and Drank the blood of Christ and therefore you have His Life in you.

But will mock me if I ask where you found the Flesh of Jesus to eat, and the Blood of Jesus to drink, as if I should know His Words are Spiritual.

Surely there is someone on this forum reading this, that are pricked in their hearts a little, and might start actually reading what is actually written in the Scriptures, as opposed to blindly following these men who have "Transformed themselves" as apostles of Christ.

 

[Jim]

Oxymoron. If receiving water baptism stands between us and salvation then we would be saved by baptism. You can't have it both ways. We are saved by faith. (Ephesians 2:8) Faith in Jesus Christ (implied in repentance) brings the forgiveness of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit. (Luke 24:47; Acts 2:38; 3:19; 5:31; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 13:38-39; 15:7-9; 16:31: 26:18) Perfect Harmony.

YOU LIE!!! I didn't say that receiving water baptism stands between us and salvation. I said:

He has promised to save the repentant believer who is baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins and to receive the gift, the indwelling, Holy Spirit..

If you don't believe me, then read:

Act 2:39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself."

What God choses to do beyond what He has promised is entirely up to God. If He chooses to save any who refuse to be baptized, that is His choice. But nowhere in the NT does God ever say that He will save anyone who is not baptized.

 

[Jim]

what do you call this?


salvation is forgiveness of sin, so if baptism is required well then, you see the issue

I did not say baptism is required. Can you not read and comprehend a simple sentence? Apparently not.

 

[MTMattie]

this is not about calvinism, this is about universalism

you appear to have CDS.

UNIVERSALIST STATE ALL ARE SAVED

CALVINIST REJECT THIS NOTION STAING ONLY THE ELECT WILL BE SAVED, ALL OTHERS WILL BE LOST

So THEY ARE NOT UNIVERSALIST


YOUR DESTROYING YOUR OWN INTEGRITY BY ATTACKING CALVINISM WITH A FAST TRUTH. IT HURTS NOT ONLY YOUR ARGUMENT AGAINST THEM, BUT PROVES YOUR HATE AGAINST THEM HAS YOU BLIND

@GodsGrace Aare you going to jump in. you claimed I was mistaken and misunderstood him.. do you see now I was correct in my assumption?

Side comment.

I had a Calvinist boss... At least the church he attended was Calvin preaching though he more likely was just a predestined soul.

He firmly believed all are saved

He also said those who are born again are saved, and those who are not will be. No matter what.

And he went to great explanation to explain this to me because he knew I was worried... ( early 20s) and wanted to assure me I had no need to be.

 

[civic]

Side comment.

I had a Calvinist boss... At least the church he attended was Calvin preaching though he more likely was just a predestined soul.

He firmly believed all are saved

He also said those who are born again are saved, and those who are not will be. No matter what.

And he went to great explanation to explain this to me because he knew I was worried... ( early 20s) and wanted to assure me I had no need to be.

yikes a misguided soul since calvin himself believed in a literal hell and punishment for the wicked.

 

[synergy]

lol

all one has to do is look at your posts against them

All you have to do is look at my posts against them to initiate your projections. Projection is a personal phenomenon after all.

they are still not universalists..

You want another name for it, fine. Salvation for all sounds good.

For them to say that they believe the Bible when it says that God wills that all be saved means that they believe in salvation for all. If they don't then they should be honest and say that they do not believe the Bible.

 

[Studyman]

I’m still waiting for your answer?

I answered your question, I just didn't fall into your deceptive and malicious trap.

Do you believe people should be put to death for violating the Sabbath laws that were instituted under the law of Moses?

I believe the wages of Sin is death. I believe Sin is Transgression of God's Laws. I find no evidence in Scriptures where God instructed "me" to murder other humans, for any reason. But I do find evidence that I am to "put to death" the man of sin that abides in me. Of course, you have no idea what I'm even talking about, and further more, it seems that you also refuse to go to the Light, "Lest your deeds should be reproved".

Do you believe you have eaten the Flesh of Jesus? Do you believe you have drank the blood of Jesus? If so, did you cook the flesh first, or eat it raw? And where did you find it?

Or are you Spiritualizing God's Word to suit your own narrative?

 

[JLB]

answered your question, I just didn't fall into your deceptive and malicious trap.

You need help sir. Your derogatory slurs are extremely rude and obnoxious.

I have only asked you a simple question to try and understand what you believe.

I believe the wages of Sin is death.

Great. So does everyone else.

Do you believe picking up sticks to kindle a fire is punishable by death under the New Covenant?

 

[Rowan]

yikes a misguided soul since calvin himself believed in a literal hell and punishment for the wicked.

And it's in the Bible.

God does not delight in the suffering of unredeemed man. He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked and would rather see them turn from their evil ways and live (Ezekiel 33:11).

Hell is a necessary reality. Imagine a man who spent his entire life avoiding God. Regarding the Scriptures as fanciful myths, he had no use for Bible reading. He considered prayer a one-sided conversation with a nonexistent being. He maligned sincere Christian believers with unsavory labels and mocked their adherence to biblical morality.

From reaching the age of accountability until his dying breath, he distanced himself from his Creator. How, then, could such a man be happy in heaven? How could he tolerate the presence of Jesus Christ and His followers throughout the endless ages to come? For such a man, heaven would be a hell. It is God’s will that none perish, but for those insistent rebels who reject His mercy, there is only justice. No third option exists. Got?

 

[JLB]

Do you believe you have eaten the Flesh of Jesus? Do you believe you have drank the blood of Jesus? If so, did you cook the flesh first, or eat it raw? And where did you find it?

This was stated on the Passover. Jesus was referring to Himself being the Passover Lamb.


Do you believe it’s a sin to eat pork?

 

[Red Baker]

@Studyman

Or are you Spiritualizing God's Word to suit your own narrative?

You are the one dancing around his question.

@JLB was not asking a question concerning mortifying the deeds of the old man and putting him to death, which is a totally different topic from the direct question he asked you ~ which was:

Do you believe people should be put to death for violating the Sabbath laws that were instituted under the law of Moses?

Yes?
No?

It was you that spiritualized this question and basically switched topics and told him what ALL Christians should do, that is: we should and must mortify the deed of the old man Adam...our flesh that we received from Adam. You are one impossible person to debate with, because you do not know how to do so, with your false gospel, which is the reason you have so much trouble in answering according to the word of God.

 

[mailmandan]

YOU LIE!!! I didn't say that receiving water baptism stands between us and salvation. I said:

If you don't believe me, then read:

Act 2:39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself."

What God choses to do beyond what He has promised is entirely up to God. If He chooses to save any who refuse to be baptized, that is His choice. But nowhere in the NT does God ever say that He will save anyone who is not baptized.

How did I lie? Were you not saying that whoever is not water baptized will not be saved or are you saying there are exceptions?

You said - He has promised to save the repentant believer who is baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins and to receive the gift, the indwelling, Holy Spirit..

You also said - But nowhere in the NT does God ever say that He will save anyone who is not baptized.

What you said sounds pretty clear to me. Now who did God say would not be saved in Mark 16:16(b) and in John 3:18? He who does not believe or he, who is not baptized?