Even in John 1, Jesus is not God

[GeneZ]

To all,
Listen, when the scriptures states the Word was "With" God or the First is "WITH" the Last, it is referring to the same one PERSON in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and or RANK, in the ECHAD", or simply put, the EQUAL SHARE of God himself. it's just that simple.

101G.

As in..... "The tail was with the head as the cat strutted before the leashed dog. "

Both the tail and the head are the cat.

Likewise, The Word being with God are God.

 

[GeneZ]

READ the bible with the Holy Spirit....... that's a good reason.

101G.

You should know better not to say that if the 'data' you spew out is able to edify and build up.
You would know what you just said is makes your posts nonsense and contradictory..

Get to know what you are supposed to be doing..

 

[TibiasDad]

I respectfully disagree.
J.

Ellicott’s Commentary says this regarding John 10:30:

…the Greek word for “one” is neuter, and the thought is not, therefore, of unity of person, but is of unity of essence. “The Son is of one substance with the Father.” In the plural “are” there is the assertion of distinctness as against Sabellianism, and in the “one” there is the assertion of co-ordination as against Arianism. At recurring periods in the history of exegesis men have tried to establish that these words do not imply more than unity of will between the Father and the Son. We have seen above that they assert both oneness of power and oneness of nature; but the best answer to all attempts to attach any meaning lower than that of the divinity of our Lord to these His words is found here, as in the parallel instance in John 8:58-59, in the conduct of the Jews themselves. To them the words conveyed but one meaning, and they sought to punish by stoning what seemed to them to be blasphemy. Their reason is here given in express words, “because that Thou, being a man, makest thyself God” (John 10:33).

Doug

 

[civic]

We are dealing with a female here.
J.

101 G ?

 

[synergy]

I still have not got an answer to how anything can be with a thing and be that thing at the same time. Trinitarians capacity to rationalize is amazing.

I can be with a human being and can be a human being at the same time. So there you have it. Weep and wail for your unitarian idol for it has just crashed and burned.

 

[GeneZ]

We are dealing with a female here.
J.

No we're not. Look here:

 

[civic]

We are dealing with a female here.
J.

Gene or 101 ?

 

[101G]

As in..... "The tail was with the head as the cat strutted before the leashed dog. "

no

Both the tail and the head are the cat.

no they are not, both make up the cat.

Likewise, The Word being with God are God.

no. the word "IS" God, not a head, nor a tail........ (smile), ...LOL, LOL, LOL, as said you need to get a refund from you school of theology. and maybe, fire all your HS teachers, for they taught U nothing.

advice, in the future don't use example any more ..... ok

101G.

 

[101G]

You should know better not to say that if the 'data' you spew out is able to edify and build up.
You would know what you just said is makes your posts nonsense and contradictory..

Get to know what you are supposed to be doing..

don't blame the car, it's the driver who failed to read the instruction book. now if you don't have any scripture to discuss, then sign into Facebook and twitter (X), if you just want to hear yourself talk. scriptures are to be discuss here. thanks in advance.

101G

 

[101G]

I can be with a human being and can be a human being at the same time. So there you have it. Weep and wail for your unitarian idol for it has just crashed and burned.

but can you be the Other Human being at the same time you is I?

101G.

 

[GeneZ]

no

no they are not, both make up the cat.

no. the word "IS" God, not a head, nor a tail........ (smile), ...LOL, LOL, LOL, as said you need to get a refund from you school of theology. and maybe, fire all your HS teachers, for they taught U nothing.

advice, in the future don't use example any more ..... ok

101G.

Like you do not use example?

Or, I should say.. ?
Not, you.
101G does not.

(Talk about irony, your honor.)

Is 101G, you?
You referred of 101G as in the third party.

And, the Word was God?
Was God referring to himself in the third party?

 

[GeneZ]

don't blame the car, it's the driver who failed to read the instruction book. now if you don't have any scripture to discuss, then sign into Facebook and twitter (X), if you just want to hear yourself talk. scriptures are to be discuss here. thanks in advance.

101G

I see.... getting into corners makes you angry.

Then you try to save face (book).

 

[GeneZ]

Gene or 101 ?

I would not be teaching here if I were female.

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet." 1 Tim 2:12​

If I were a female and lusted to break the rule?
I might create a male persona (but not forget to not speak of my persona in the third party).

It might make others suspicious....

 

[civic]

I would not be teaching here if I were female.

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet." 1 Tim 2:12​

If I were a female and lusted to break the rule?
I might create a male persona (but not forget to not speak of my persona in the third party).

It might make others suspicious....

I know you are not lol and the same with 101 as far as I know.

 

[GeneZ]

I know you are not lol and the same with 101 as far as I know.

The persona veers into the realm of appearing to be overcompensation for some reason.
Like a woman wishing to appear to be some macho type.

enuf said....

 

[synergy]

but can you be the Other Human being at the same time you is I?

101G.

I cannot be both myself and the other person at the same time which destroys your version of modalism.

 

[GeneZ]

but can you be the Other Human being at the same time you is I?

101G.

You do it all the time...

Here is an example of you being whoever you are, and whatever 101G is, as well!

(smile), but 101G will stick with what the bible states, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" is this unique? notice, it states ONE 'LORD", not ONE 'GOD". but the verse states one LORD, who the "LORD" is God. so let's look at the definition and see.
H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

Do you ever refer to yourself as, "I?" "Me?"

Besides... 101G is not even a person!

 

[101G]

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet." 1 Tim 2:12

another false doctrine by your understanding...... (smile), lol, lol, Oh dear.

101G.

 

[101G]

I cannot be both myself and the other person at the same time which destroys your version of modalism.

101G is not, again, is not a modalist..... LOL, Oh dear..... YIKES!

101G.

 

[101G]

Do you ever refer to yourself as, "I?" "Me?"

Besides... 101G is not even a person!

(smile)..... Oh MY.....

101G.

I cannot be both myself and the other person at the same time

but the Lord God almighty can. Listen and Learn. John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."

while talking to Nicodemus on earth in FLESH and Blood as the Son, he Jesus the same One person was in Heaven, Spirit as the Father..... Oh my that Just destroyed your trinity which is Modalism in reverse..... (Smile) Oop's

101G.