101G
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your personal opinion do not count, only God word count. and God word Says God is JESUS. first starting place to know this, Isaiah 63:5.
just ask yourself, "Who is God's ... OWN ARM ..... that brought salvation to him?"
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Easily dispelling unitarianism
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just ask yourself, "Who is God's ... OWN ARM ..... that brought salvation to him?"
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Matthias
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Clear as mud to me.
Matthias
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The way it’s going, seems to me you’ll just have to tell me straight up who the one person is in order for me to get it.
101G
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OK, first MUD. Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me."
MUD #1, who is God's ... OWN, OWN, OWN, ARM? God himself... right.
MUD #2. Isaiah 53:1 "Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?" God is about to reveal his "OWN" ARM. Listen closely....... Isaiah 53:2 "For he (God's OWN ARM), shall grow up before him, (GOD), as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he (God's OWN ARM), hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, (God's OWN ARM), there is no beauty that we should desire him,(God's OWN ARM),."
God's "OWN" ARM is a "he"/a "him", a person. and this PERSON is his, (God) "OWN" ARM...... meaning it God himself.
did you follow?
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Matthias
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I’m afraid not. It looks like you’re going to have to answer the questions for me if I’m going to get it.
101G
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did 101G not? ...... MUD #1, who is God's ... OWN, OWN, OWN, ARM? God himself... right. God is his OWN-SELF in Flesh.
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Matthias
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Who is the one person?
101G
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LAST TIME, GOD.
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101G
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LOL, LOL, LOL, have we not proved that Jesus is the ONLY "GOD?". 1 Timothy 6:13 "I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;" 1 Timothy 6:14 "That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:" 1 Timothy 6:15 "Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;" 1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."
JESUS is the "ONLY" one who has EVERLASTING LIFE. for the term Only means, "and no one or nothing more besides; solely or exclusively". if you cannot understand it now no need for us to continue this conversation.
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Matthias
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Thanks.
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Wrangler
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Proving the trinity is false.
Wrangler
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This is such blatant gnosticism and eisegeisis! For us, there is one God the Father. Simple. Explicit Bible teaching.
Isaiah 45:5 I am Yahweh, and there is no other.
There is no other Elohim (God) besides me. (emphasis added)
It is obviously through such verses that the personification of Is 53:1 must be looked at. Consider the NOG translation:
53 Who has believed our message?
To whom has Yahweh’s power been revealed?
2 He grew up in his presence like a young tree,
like a root out of dry ground.
He had no form or majesty that would make us look at him.
He had nothing in his appearance that would make us desire him.
"He grew up in his presence." These pronouns refer to different male singular Beings, correct? And only one is YHWH, the only God. Notice how this translation replaces the confusing personification of YHWH's power? This is what "To whom is the arm of Adonai revealed" (CJB) means.
That that you rely on pure eisegesis is telling.
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101G
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and this ONE "GOD" who is the Father, is also the SAME ONE "GOD" who is the Son in Diversified/Shared in Flesh, meaning the ONE "GOD" is the ECHAD of himself in Flesh. this is Simple, and very Explicit Bible teaching...... (smile)
101G.
first question, "How can someone grow out of DRY GROUND?" ........ ANSWER, Only God, because he has NO BEGINNING. God's OWN "ARM" came in Flesh. this is basic bible study.... you should have already knew this. GOD'S OWN "ARM" is HIM in the ECHAD of First/Father, and Last/Son in, in, in, Flesh. Oh my.
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Matthias
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It certainly proves that he isn’t a trinitarian, which he acknowledges.
Jesus is only one person.
There is a well-defined theological term for a person whose deity is only one person, but he doesn’t apply that terminology to himself.
civic
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Scripture does not say one God is father and son. That's because only the Father is God and Scripture is explicit on this point over and over and over again.
