civic
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It’s the pot calling the kettle black
Did God ( Christ ) die ?
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GeneZ
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That is what commentators resorted to when they could not explain passages that show the Lord Jehovah of Israel have TWO natures, knowing that one nature in itself is not God in essence....
Yet.. those two natures described exactly the kind of union of Jesus Christ perfectly, only sans a human body!
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civic
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Yep
GeneZ
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civic
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I’m glad to hear you finally admitted it that’s a start in the right direction.
Frank Russell
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What's with this I am rubber you are glue, followed by I know you are but what am I? lol
GeneZ
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I’m glad to hear you finally admitted it that’s a start in the right direction.
Already been going in the right direction.....
Faith builds up muscle through resistance when there is not something better to do...
I am just going with the flow. Its one of the things I found here to be odd and wondered why its done.
Frank Russell
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Yeah, it's part of the free spirited part of things around here.
But I was like, what's up with that? lol.
GeneZ
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I thought maybe someone is being nostalgic and misses those days of childhood and wants to relive them?
Being free spirited is enslavement to the trends of one's sin nature.
Only the truth can make us free.
Frank Russell
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The Truth says:
Whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
(Matthew 18:4)
GeneZ
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Child like inner happiness should not be equated with childishness.
That tranquility of soul known by a child can only be granted to a believer of whom God has worked out childishness.
In other words... the more mature one becomes in Christ? The more his inner being is at peace, like a child who can play alone and entertain himself.
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L.A.M.B.
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Did God ( Christ) die?
Hebrews 4:15-16
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in ALL points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Colossians 2:9-10 (NKJV)
For in Him dwells ALL the fullness of the Godhead BODILY; and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.
Isaiah 9:2
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.
Rom.6
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 4:25
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised AGAIN FOR OUR JUSTIFICATION.
Hebrews 9:27-28
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
The part of God in whom he manifested himself to humanity did die bodily in the flesh as God ordained it. He was the perfect, one time sacrifice for the sin debt we owed and propitiated God's wrath against us by his death.
No man has ever seen God except in his fleshly form, as Jesus. Neither has any seen the Holy Spirit. Yet all three are manifestations of our one God we serve !
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
It is ONLY by believing in Jesus Christ death, burial and RESURRECTION that we may be saved and have the promise of ETERNAL LIFE !
Did God ( Christ) die?
Hebrews 4:15-16
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in ALL points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Colossians 2:9-10 (NKJV)
For in Him dwells ALL the fullness of the Godhead BODILY; and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.
Isaiah 9:2
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.
Rom.6
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 4:25
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised AGAIN FOR OUR JUSTIFICATION.
Hebrews 9:27-28
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
The part of God in whom he manifested himself to humanity did die bodily in the flesh as God ordained it. He was the perfect, one time sacrifice for the sin debt we owed and propitiated God's wrath against us by his death.
No man has ever seen God except in his fleshly form, as Jesus. Neither has any seen the Holy Spirit. Yet all three are manifestations of our one God we serve !
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
It is ONLY by believing in Jesus Christ death, burial and RESURRECTION that we may be saved and have the promise of ETERNAL LIFE !
Diserner
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Would you say Jesus was a "part of God"?
He is called the Christ, not crickets. He is God, Deity and Soul in union eternally.
L.A.M.B.
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Not a part of, rather he is God!
However, Jesus is the manifested form of God in the flesh as the word says.
He was in the beginning; at creation, BEFORE the foundations of all.
Jesus said, "I AM".
I call him my Lord, my saviour and my God !
The Lord Jesus is unique. He is unique in the Godhead as neither Father nor Spirit have ever been a union of Deity and Soul and He is unique in creation for He is the only Soul to be united with God in one person.
Asking to be shown another like Jesus is a nonsensical question. He confuses the nature of soul with being a man as a man is more than soul. Hence, "a body you prepared for me" in order for the Christ to become as a man.
Jesus Christ is the only soul uniquely begotten with eternal life as he is the only soul united with God in one person. The rest of us have had eternal life imputed to us. Have we all stopped being human now?
@dizerner is correct in that you're violating the very definition of a soul. Adam became a living soul only after God breathed life into his body. IOW, a body is necessary for one to become a living soul. That is true for everyone at conception and that is true for Christ at his Incarnation. That's your first violation.
@dizerner is also correct in that you're violating the very definition of being a human. All humans have a definite beginning creation point. The humanity that you ascribe to Jesus has no beginning creation point.
Now why do I point this out? That's because only by being 100% human (in addition to being 100% Divine) can Jesus save us. If He’s not truly human, then He can’t mediate for us, and He can’t die for us either. Also, if Jesus is not truly human then he can’t be the last Adam, sent to succeed where the first Adam failed. And so on. But thankfully, Jesus is truly God and truly man.
If you can just stop violating standard definitions then you will see the light.
civic
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Amen- the opposite of the arrogant, proud, unteachable. A disciple/follower is by definition a learner, just like a child is eager to learn, grow, seek in humility of mind-
civic
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Spot on lets see who can take correction when shown the truth, humble themselves, repent and be thankful for the correction.
