Christ paid our sin debt

Keiw1 said:
The great crowd live forever on the new earth= Gods kingdom rule in full control forever, no more satan influences, all made back to perfection.
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in rev, the multitude are the heathens..
yes... some may see eden paradise in the other reality...

however, this earth will be fit only for rats and moles...
no one will remember her or pass here whatsoever..
 
e v e said:
in rev, the multitude are the heathens..
yes... some may see eden paradise in the other reality...

however, this earth will be fit only for rats and moles...
no one will remember her or pass here whatsoever..
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Not what the bible teaches-RUN from whomever you are listening to.
 
e v e said:
in rev, the multitude are the heathens..
yes... some may see eden paradise in the other reality...

however, this earth will be fit only for rats and moles...
no one will remember her or pass here whatsoever..
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The earth gets transformed

2 Peter 3:10–13 (KJV 1900) — 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
 
TomL said:
The earth gets transformed

2 Peter 3:10–13 (KJV 1900) — 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
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this earth is not made by God and will cease, per prophets.

His earth of Genesis is in the other reality
and is Eden paradise...
which will be restored by the sons and Christ soon.
 
All His 144k, the sons and daughters of Him, will return to our Eden Paradise soon, in the other reality...
And after, we will return to this earth with Christ and comfort left behind Jacob.
 
Hosanna said:
In His sovereign wisdom our Lord knew that His followers through the centuries would need a continual reminder of the essential truths of their faith—the sacrificial death, the triumphant resurrection, and the victorious return of Christ.

For His disciples, Christ shared the Last Supper and introduced the signs of the new covenant—His broken body and shed blood—symbolized by the bread and the cup. With this supper as the model, He then gave instructions that this feast of remembrance should occur regularly in our worship of Him until He comes. After that, it will culminate in heaven with the saints of the ages in the Wedding Supper of the Lamb (Revelation 19:7, 9).

Kenneth W. Osbeck, Amazing Grace
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TRUE - as long as it is not the counterfiet that is idolatry coming from the Vatican on down

Transubstantiation is a falsehood for people who are prone to worship idols
 
civic said:
“God is the one who set up this system of sacrificial atonement.

How should we answer this?
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I personally wouldn't bother "answering it".

Shall the "thing made" say to Him that made it: "Why hast thou made me thus??" (Rom 9:20)

God says that BLOOD IS REQUIRES FOR THE "REMISSION OF SINS (Heb 9:22). That's all the explanation necessary.

It IS WHAT IT IS. People who want God to be "LOVE" simply haven't bothered with what the bible says. God is a LOT of things besides "LOVE", including VENGEANCE.
 
Bob Carabbio said:
I personally wouldn't bother "answering it".

Shall the "thing made" say to Him that made it: "Why hast thou made me thus??" (Rom 9:20)

God says that BLOOD IS REQUIRES FOR THE "REMISSION OF SINS (Heb 9:22). That's all the explanation necessary.

It IS WHAT IT IS. People who want God to be "LOVE" simply haven't bothered with what the bible says. God is a LOT of things besides "LOVE", including VENGEANCE.
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God is love within His Triune Being not wrath or vengeance.
 
e v e said:
you do recall that we were barred from paradise
after the fall ?

so where is it then if its on this earth...
since on this earth we can go wherever we want?
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My statement was your claim is not found in the bible

If you want to dispute that then point out where the bible makes such a claim
 
civic said:
God is love within His Triune Being not wrath or vengeance.
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WHAT!!!

The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations.
And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron.
He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written:

KING OF KINGS AND
LORD OF LORDS.
 
DavidTree said:
WHAT!!!

The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations.
And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron.
He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written:

KING OF KINGS AND
LORD OF LORDS.
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He does hate the demon nations and its sons, esau.

and does not the destruction of this evil earth and the evil realm show in prophets... yes


however Souls from Him, He will rescue...

nations as a term Always refers to demon nations...
in the other reality
 
e v e said:
He does hate the demon nations and its sons, esau.

and does not the destruction of this evil earth and the evil realm show in prophets... yes


however Souls from Him, He will rescue...

nations as a term Always refers to demon nations...
in the other reality
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i SEE the point you are making but we must be VERY CAREFUL because the name Abraham means 'Father of nations'
 

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