Can People Get Saved After the Rapture?

[jeremiah1five]

I am sorry but i see no statement saying that Christ does not come back as promised

you are adding to scripture

You've said it several times. People are "caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and SO SHALL WE EVER BE WITH THE LORD" (in the air.)

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Th 4:17.

But any way you want to cut it there is no getting "caught up" for there is no rapture. Jesus ascended and the men in white garments said He's coming back in like manner as they saw Him go up. That means the same way.
Jesus didn't ascend and stay in the air three- and one-half years and then go to His Father. He ascended by going up until He couldn't be seen, and He's coming back the same way He went up, all in one motion.

 

[TomL]

You've said it several times. People are "caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and SO SHALL WE EVER BE WITH THE LORD" (in the air.)

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Th 4:17.

But any way you want to cut it there is no getting "caught up" for there is no rapture. Jesus ascended and the men in white garments said He's coming back in like manner as they saw Him go up. That means the same way.
Jesus didn't ascend and stay in the air three- and one-half years and then go to His Father. He ascended by going up until He couldn't be seen, and He's coming back the same way He went up, all in one motion.

Um scripture said it

You just do not believe

1 Thessalonians 4:15–17 (NASB 2020) — 15 For we say this to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who remain, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

and want to pick and choose what you will and will not believe

btw there is nothing in 1th 4:15 which mentions 3 1/2 years or whether they accompany Christ to heaven or down to the earth

You are reading Darbyism into the passage

 

[Duane]

When Jesus Christ ascended into heaven after His resurrection, He told His disciples that He would be returning. Soon. The first followers of Jesus expected Him to return in their lifetime. Over the centuries, many people have expected the same. Some have even attempted to predict the year or sometimes the very day of His arrival.

So far, everyone has been wrong.

Nearly two thousand years after Jesus said He would return, we are still waiting. So you may be tempted to ask, why the delay? Why hasn’t He returned for His Church? Why does He allow injustice and suffering and sin to continue? Why hasn’t our Savior come back for us?

You may even be tempted to doubt. It’s been so long . . . maybe we misinterpreted His words? Maybe it’s a sign that we were wrong about other things as well.

It’s frustrating to wait. It tries our patience and our confidence. But God has not forgotten His promises, and He has His reasons for delaying His return—and some of them may surprise you. In fact, you might be one of those reasons.

Huh?

Color me pre-tribulation rapture.
It will be an ordinary day on this globe—until, suddenly, it isn’t.
One day soon, the world will face the Great Disappearance!
Billions of people. Gone in a flash more powerful than an atomic burst, yet silent. Invisible! Sudden! Inexplicable!

 

[Kenny]

When Jesus Christ ascended into heaven after His resurrection, He told His disciples that He would be returning. Soon. The first followers of Jesus expected Him to return in their lifetime. Over the centuries, many people have expected the same. Some have even attempted to predict the year or sometimes the very day of His arrival.

So far, everyone has been wrong.

Nearly two thousand years after Jesus said He would return, we are still waiting. So you may be tempted to ask, why the delay? Why hasn’t He returned for His Church? Why does He allow injustice and suffering and sin to continue? Why hasn’t our Savior come back for us?

You may even be tempted to doubt. It’s been so long . . . maybe we misinterpreted His words? Maybe it’s a sign that we were wrong about other things as well.

It’s frustrating to wait. It tries our patience and our confidence. But God has not forgotten His promises, and He has His reasons for delaying His return—and some of them may surprise you. In fact, you might be one of those reasons.

Huh?

Color me pre-tribulation rapture.
It will be an ordinary day on this globe—until, suddenly, it isn’t.
One day soon, the world will face the Great Disappearance!
Billions of people. Gone in a flash more powerful than an atomic burst, yet silent. Invisible! Sudden! Inexplicable!

When we read our Bibles, we discover that before the day of judgment, Jesus will return to gather His saints to Himself. This is the first stage of His Second Coming, also called the Rapture. At the Rapture, Jesus will come in the air for His Church to remove her from the coming Tribulation. Seven years later, at the end of the Tribulation, Jesus will return with His church to judge the wicked and usher in His glorious kingdom.

This second stage of the Second Coming—His coming in power and judgment— will be ushered in by signs as described in Matthew 24. But His coming in the air for His Church, for all who believe in Him, could happen at any moment. There are two passages in the New Testament that teach us about the Rapture. One is 1 Corinthians 15 and the other is found in 1 Thessalonians.

 

[TomL]

When we read our Bibles, we discover that before the day of judgment, Jesus will return to gather His saints to Himself. This is the first stage of His Second Coming, also called the Rapture. At the Rapture, Jesus will come in the air for His Church to remove her from the coming Tribulation. Seven years later, at the end of the Tribulation, Jesus will return with His church to judge the wicked and usher in His glorious kingdom.

This second stage of the Second Coming—His coming in power and judgment— will be ushered in by signs as described in Matthew 24. But His coming in the air for His Church, for all who believe in Him, could happen at any moment. There are two passages in the New Testament that teach us about the Rapture. One is 1 Corinthians 15 and the other is found in 1 Thessalonians.

1Thessalonians and 1 Cor 15 address the second advent of Christ and the resurrection

 

[Kenny]

1Thessalonians and 1 Cor 15 address the second advent of Christ and the resurrection

Yes, but 1 Thessalonians 4:17 says we will be “caught up”! The Greek word Paul used was harpazo. When the New Testament was rendered into Latin, the translators used the word raptura, which means “to catch up or snatch up.” From this, we get our word rapture.

 

[Duane]

Yes, but 1 Thessalonians 4:17 says we will be “caught up”! The Greek word Paul used was harpazo. When the New Testament was rendered into Latin, the translators used the word raptura, which means “to catch up or snatch up.” From this, we get our word rapture.

And after the rapture comes the seven-year tribulation. Then Jesus’ Second Coming.

Mt 24:30–31
Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and beat their breasts and lament in anguish, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory [in brilliancy and splendor].…
Mt 25:31–46
When the Son of Man comes in His glory (His majesty and splendor), and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them [the people] from one another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats;…

The Second Coming, also known as the Second Advent, is a term used in Christian theology to refer to the anticipated return of Jesus Christ to judge the living and the dead, and to establish God's kingdom in its fullness. It is believed to be a future event that will mark the culmination of human history and the fulfillment of God's plan of salvation.

This is known as The Millennial Kingdom.

Remember, there will be two groups of people inhabiting the planet during the Millennium. One group will consist of Old Testament saints, raptured believers, and those martyred during the Tribulation. That group will possess heavenly bodies, which means our longevity will be everlasting. We’ll dwell with Christ for a thousand years, then enter the new heaven and new earth with Him to dwell forever. No more death for us! Nor sickness or sin. No more pain or grief.

The second group will include those who were saved and who survived to the end of the Tribulation, plus any children they produce during the Millennium. These people will still have earthly bodies, but they will experience the kind of longevity reminiscent of the early days of Genesis, which I’ll discuss shortly.

 

[Grace ambassador]

This is the first stage of His Second Coming, also called the Rapture.

Respectfully disagree with this, as these are not stages of one event, but totally Two
Different Events, Which Must Be 'Rightly Divided':

Further details here:

Great Grace Departure!​

Amen.

 

[DavidTree]

When Jesus Christ ascended into heaven after His resurrection, He told His disciples that He would be returning. Soon. The first followers of Jesus expected Him to return in their lifetime. Over the centuries, many people have expected the same. Some have even attempted to predict the year or sometimes the very day of His arrival.

So far, everyone has been wrong.

Nearly two thousand years after Jesus said He would return, we are still waiting. So you may be tempted to ask, why the delay? Why hasn’t He returned for His Church? Why does He allow injustice and suffering and sin to continue? Why hasn’t our Savior come back for us?

You may even be tempted to doubt. It’s been so long . . . maybe we misinterpreted His words? Maybe it’s a sign that we were wrong about other things as well.

It’s frustrating to wait. It tries our patience and our confidence. But God has not forgotten His promises, and He has His reasons for delaying His return—and some of them may surprise you. In fact, you might be one of those reasons.

Huh?

Color me pre-tribulation rapture.
It will be an ordinary day on this globe—until, suddenly, it isn’t.
One day soon, the world will face the Great Disappearance!
Billions of people. Gone in a flash more powerful than an atomic burst, yet silent. Invisible! Sudden! Inexplicable!

Well, pre-trib rapture just adds to the confusion since it is a man-made doctrine and not found in the Scriptures.

God made His word very simple to understand as it is written at a grade school level of understanding.

"But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."
2 Cor 11:3

 

[DavidTree]

When we read our Bibles, we discover that before the day of judgment, Jesus will return to gather His saints to Himself. This is the first stage of His Second Coming, also called the Rapture. At the Rapture, Jesus will come in the air for His Church to remove her from the coming Tribulation. Seven years later, at the end of the Tribulation, Jesus will return with His church to judge the wicked and usher in His glorious kingdom.

This second stage of the Second Coming—His coming in power and judgment— will be ushered in by signs as described in Matthew 24. But His coming in the air for His Church, for all who believe in Him, could happen at any moment. There are two passages in the New Testament that teach us about the Rapture. One is 1 Corinthians 15 and the other is found in 1 Thessalonians.

You have been listening to the spirit of anti-christ.

Read the Gospel of John and 1 Thessalonians again and again until you SEE.

 

[Larry]

Well, pre-trib rapture just adds to the confusion since it is a man-made doctrine and not found in the Scriptures.

God made His word very simple to understand as it is written at a grade school level of understanding.

"But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."
2 Cor 11:3

there is a reason why it's called "Pre-Tribulation Rapture".

We “wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come” 1 Thessalonians 1:10

One of the most amazing aspects of the mystery revealed in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 is the promise that the church of Jesus Christ will not pass through the Tribulation. That is one reason why the Bible calls the Rapture “the blessed hope” in Titus 2:13

Revelation 3:10 says we will be kept out of the hour of testing which will come upon the whole earth (the Tribulation). Some have wrongly believed “keep” means to keep through, or protect through the Tribulation.
The Church will be called home before the hour of testing.

 

[TomL]

Yes, but 1 Thessalonians 4:17 says we will be “caught up”! The Greek word Paul used was harpazo. When the New Testament was rendered into Latin, the translators used the word raptura, which means “to catch up or snatch up.” From this, we get our word rapture.

Yes caught up at the second advent and the resurrection

1 Thessalonians 4:15–17 (KJV 1900) — 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

 

[Aeliana]

This verse continues an often-quoted description of "the rapture:" the sudden, bodily taking from earth of all Christians by Jesus Christ. That depiction, in turn, is part of Paul's reassurance to the Christians of Thessalonica. He is correcting certain fears and misunderstandings about the end times, including what happens to believers who die before Jesus returns. The prior verse describes the rapture as a dramatic event, which first involves the resurrection of those believers who have already died (1 Thessalonians 4:16).

Following the resurrection of departed Christians, Jesus will snatch up living Christians who are "left." Being left should not trouble believers, because they are left for only a fleeting moment before Jesus takes them up from the earth to join Him in the clouds of earth's atmosphere. This event will introduce Christians to an eternity in Jesus' presence.

The word "clouds" is used metaphorically, most likely as a reference to the sky. Alternatively, Paul might mean this as crowds of people, just as it represents a crowd of witnesses in Hebrews 12:1. At any rate Jesus' arrival in earth's atmosphere suggests He offers Christians' safe passage through the Devil's territory, reflecting imagery used elsewhere in Scripture. The Devil is "the prince of the power of the air" (Ephesians 2:2), but he is no match for Jesus. The apostle John offered strong encouragement by writing, "… he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world" (1 John 4:4).

Notably, Paul makes it clear that this meeting is "in the air," and not on the literal surface of the earth. This is why the rapture is considered to be a separate event from the second coming of Christ. When Jesus fully returns to earth, a second time, He will do so leading the armies of heaven (Revelation 19:11–16).

Go Deeper Bible Study

 

[DavidTree]

there is a reason why it's called "Pre-Tribulation Rapture".

We “wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come” 1 Thessalonians 1:10

One of the most amazing aspects of the mystery revealed in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 is the promise that the church of Jesus Christ will not pass through the Tribulation. That is one reason why the Bible calls the Rapture “the blessed hope” in Titus 2:13

Revelation 3:10 says we will be kept out of the hour of testing which will come upon the whole earth (the Tribulation). Some have wrongly believed “keep” means to keep through, or protect through the Tribulation.
The Church will be called home before the hour of testing.

Thank you @Larry for sharing - i appreciate your inquiry into the Scriptures of TRUTH

Larry, there is no such thing as "pre-trib" rapture in the Holy Scriptures = not a single scripture exists declaring it.

We(Larry, David and the Saints) “wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come” 1 Thessalonians 1:10

This is His Second Coming = ALL of Scripture ONLY speaks of His 1st Coming and His 2nd Coming

STUDY/PRAY - Genesis, Gospel, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, 2 Thess chapter 2 , 1 Corinthians chapter 15 as they are all AFTER tribulation.

Revelation 3:10 is reserved ONLY for a select group of saints that will be chosen by God = it is NOT for the entire church.

STUDY/PRAY Revelation in the LIGHT of the Gospel, the Apostles and the OT Prophets

SHALOM my Brother in Christ as we wait for His Second Coming

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Can People Get Saved After the Rapture?​

Chuckle!!! To begin with, "Eschatology" is a religious term meaning "Rank Speculation". Depending on one's "Denominational paradigm" it may or may not be possible, in in one version only JEWS can be redeemed. IF the Holy SPirit is also withdrawn aling with the Christians, then, of course salvation would be impossible.

Personally I couldn't care less about theological abstracts of this type. GOD'S AGENDA will unfold as HE HAS PLANNED, and our attempts at theology won't have any effect one way or another.

 

[TomL]

Thank you @Larry for sharing - i appreciate your inquiry into the Scriptures of TRUTH

Larry, there is no such thing as "pre-trib" rapture in the Holy Scriptures = not a single scripture exists declaring it.

We(Larry, David and the Saints) “wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come” 1 Thessalonians 1:10

This is His Second Coming = ALL of Scripture ONLY speaks of His 1st Coming and His 2nd Coming

STUDY/PRAY - Genesis, Gospel, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, 2 Thess chapter 2 , 1 Corinthians chapter 15 as they are all AFTER tribulation.

Revelation 3:10 is reserved ONLY for a select group of saints that will be chosen by God = it is NOT for the entire church.

STUDY/PRAY Revelation in the LIGHT of the Gospel, the Apostles and the OT Prophets

SHALOM my Brother in Christ as we wait for His Second Coming

Yep there is no secret coming of Christ to remove the church from the earth. There is the second coming when the dead are raised and the living caught up

 

[Larry]

Most Christians who take the Bible literally expect to be raptured before the Lord comes in power to this earth.

Some Bible doctrines are nonnegotiable: the deity of Christ, for example, or salvation by grace through faith.

But whether Christ comes for His church before the Tribulation, in the middle, or at the end is not a cardinal doctrine. All Christians believe that Christ is coming with a shout from heaven and that “the dead in Christ will rise first.” Believers living at the time will be changed and raised with them to meet the Lord in the air.

No single verse specifically states, “Christ will not rapture His church before the Tribulation.” On the other hand, no single passage teaches He will not come before the Tribulation, or that He will come in the middle or at the end of the Tribulation. If there was it would end the debate immediately.

 

[jeremiah1five]

When Jesus Christ ascended into heaven after His resurrection, He told His disciples that He would be returning. Soon. The first followers of Jesus expected Him to return in their lifetime. Over the centuries, many people have expected the same. Some have even attempted to predict the year or sometimes the very day of His arrival.

So far, everyone has been wrong.

Nearly two thousand years after Jesus said He would return, we are still waiting. So you may be tempted to ask, why the delay? Why hasn’t He returned for His Church? Why does He allow injustice and suffering and sin to continue? Why hasn’t our Savior come back for us?

You may even be tempted to doubt. It’s been so long . . . maybe we misinterpreted His words? Maybe it’s a sign that we were wrong about other things as well.

It’s frustrating to wait. It tries our patience and our confidence. But God has not forgotten His promises, and He has His reasons for delaying His return—and some of them may surprise you. In fact, you might be one of those reasons.

Huh?

Color me pre-tribulation rapture.
It will be an ordinary day on this globe—until, suddenly, it isn’t.
One day soon, the world will face the Great Disappearance!
Billions of people. Gone in a flash more powerful than an atomic burst, yet silent. Invisible! Sudden! Inexplicable!

Scripture does not teach a rapture. There is only ONE coming of Jesus Christ and it is in the same manner in which He ascended which is the same way He will return: Once.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:10–11.

Jesus returns a second time the same way He went up. In other words, Jesus will come in one act the same way He ascended with no time period in between. He didn't ascend, stayed in the air for three- and one-half years and then finally disappeared to be with His Father.

He went up in one action and will return in one action the same way He ascended.
The rapture is a lie.

 

[Jay]

No single verse specifically states, “Christ will not rapture His church before the Tribulation.” On the other hand, no single passage teaches He will not come before the Tribulation, or that He will come in the middle or at the end of the Tribulation. Any such explicit declaration would end the debate immediately.

 

[Grace ambassador]

No single verse specifically states, “Christ will not rapture His church before the Tribulation.”

Correct, no 'single verse', but about 100 Rightly Divided Passages Show 'pre-trib' rapture of The
Body Of Christ, God "removing His ambassadors [ Ending The Dispensation of Grace ]" Before
Declaring War/Judgment on an Unbelieving world [ Resuming His Prophetic Program For Israel! ]:

Great Grace Departure!​

Amen.