praise_yeshua
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There is much hostility over the centuries of faith surrounding the "thousand year reign" mentioned only in the book of Revelation.
In review. Peter made it clear that he agreed with what Paul taught in the letter to believers at Thessaloniki.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Peter referenced what Paul taught.
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Peter references what Paul taught as one of the "days of the Lord". (Zec 14:1)
However, in the book of Revelation there appears to be an "extend" revelation of this event.
Lets discuss this if you will.
I'll start with Rev 7....
Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
Rev 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Rev 7:11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 7:12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them
With the "view" depicted above in mind, notice how many peoples are with the Lamb and what they're doing.
In the context of this discussion, this must be accounted for relative to what some believe about end time events. This most certainly happens after what most anyone accepts as the "tribulation". Regardless of when you place the "tribulation"... (which I place before destruction of the temple in 70AD). This is the view of post tribulation peoples and events.
Now lets reconcile this "thousand years/day" of the Lord.
I would make the argument that the amount of people depicted in this view would prevent accepting a physical reign of Christ on this earth. If you believe it doesn't, then please explain what timing is involved? If you say after the physical 1000 year reign. Then you have an event where Christ abandons these peoples that already exist and are with Him....... to only attend/worship Christ from time to time during that physical reign....
Please remember that Peter/Paul said clearly that "all the works therein will pass away". Complete and total destruction takes please on the earth when Jesus destroys the enemies of God when returning with all the saints. (First Resurrection). I know some believe in the Rapture (which contradicts the "first resurrection" language of Revelation.
Please share your thoughts/concerns.
In review. Peter made it clear that he agreed with what Paul taught in the letter to believers at Thessaloniki.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Peter referenced what Paul taught.
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Peter references what Paul taught as one of the "days of the Lord". (Zec 14:1)
However, in the book of Revelation there appears to be an "extend" revelation of this event.
Lets discuss this if you will.
I'll start with Rev 7....
Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
Rev 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Rev 7:11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 7:12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them
With the "view" depicted above in mind, notice how many peoples are with the Lamb and what they're doing.
In the context of this discussion, this must be accounted for relative to what some believe about end time events. This most certainly happens after what most anyone accepts as the "tribulation". Regardless of when you place the "tribulation"... (which I place before destruction of the temple in 70AD). This is the view of post tribulation peoples and events.
Now lets reconcile this "thousand years/day" of the Lord.
I would make the argument that the amount of people depicted in this view would prevent accepting a physical reign of Christ on this earth. If you believe it doesn't, then please explain what timing is involved? If you say after the physical 1000 year reign. Then you have an event where Christ abandons these peoples that already exist and are with Him....... to only attend/worship Christ from time to time during that physical reign....
Please remember that Peter/Paul said clearly that "all the works therein will pass away". Complete and total destruction takes please on the earth when Jesus destroys the enemies of God when returning with all the saints. (First Resurrection). I know some believe in the Rapture (which contradicts the "first resurrection" language of Revelation.
Please share your thoughts/concerns.
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