Calvinism is Gospel !

[TomL]

@TomL



He wasnt in the flesh.

He wasn't personally regenerated.

 

[brightfame52]

His father was Jared (Genesis 5:18). Enoch was the father of Methuselah, who was the oldest man who ever lived - 969 years (Genesis 5:21)

Okay ? And ?

 

[brightfame52]

He wasn't personally regenerated.

Yes he was, had to be to have faith, a fruit of the Spirit.

 

[FreeInChrist]

Okay ? And ?

@TomL

Enoch pleased God

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He wasnt in the flesh.

Me

His father was Jared (Genesis 5:18). Enoch was the father of Methuselah, who was the oldest man who ever lived - 969 years (Genesis 5:21)

And now I am finishing with

Enoch was in the flesh when he pleased God, as he lived a life characterized by faith and obedience before being taken by God without experiencing death. He is noted for his close relationship with God, ~GQ

By faith Enoch was taken up so that he did not see death: He could not be found, because God had taken him away. For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God.

Enoch was pleasing to God because he not only lived his life by faith in the God of heaven and earth, but he also lived his life in intimate communion with God.

Enoch’s righteousness set him apart. He consistently made choices that aligned with God’s moral standards. Enoch’s commitment to righteousness pleased God, as it demonstrated his desire to live in accordance with God’s commands. His righteous actions were not driven by legalism, but by a genuine love for God and a desire to honor Him in all aspects of life.

Enoch’s unwavering faith serves as an example for us to follow. Hebrews 11:5 states, “By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: ‘He could not be found, because God had taken him away.'” Enoch’s faith in God’s promises and his complete trust in Him allowed him to experience a unique and extraordinary outcome. Enoch’s faith challenges us to trust in God’s faithfulness and believe in His promises, even when circumstances seem impossible.

HE WAS A MAN IN THE FLESH. HE HAD A FATHER. HE HAD A SON. AND HE HAD FAITH.

 

[brightfame52]

@TomL


You replied


Me

And now I am finishing with

Enoch was in the flesh when he pleased God, as he lived a life characterized by faith and obedience before being taken by God without experiencing death. He is noted for his close relationship with God, ~GQ

By faith Enoch was taken up so that he did not see death: He could not be found, because God had taken him away. For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God.

Enoch was pleasing to God because he not only lived his life by faith in the God of heaven and earth, but he also lived his life in intimate communion with God.

Enoch’s righteousness set him apart. He consistently made choices that aligned with God’s moral standards. Enoch’s commitment to righteousness pleased God, as it demonstrated his desire to live in accordance with God’s commands. His righteous actions were not driven by legalism, but by a genuine love for God and a desire to honor Him in all aspects of life.

Enoch’s unwavering faith serves as an example for us to follow. Hebrews 11:5 states, “By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: ‘He could not be found, because God had taken him away.'” Enoch’s faith in God’s promises and his complete trust in Him allowed him to experience a unique and extraordinary outcome. Enoch’s faith challenges us to trust in God’s faithfulness and believe in His promises, even when circumstances seem impossible.

HE WAS A MAN IN THE FLESH. HE HAD A FATHER. HE HAD A SON. AND HE HAD FAITH.

He had faith not from his natural father, but from regeneration. Having a natural father only means you in the flesh and cannot please God Christ gives Faith as ones Spiritual father heb 12:2

2 ;Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

 

[FreeInChrist]

He had faith not from his natural father, but from regeneration. Having a natural father only means you in the flesh and cannot please God Christ gives Faith as ones Spiritual father heb 12:2

2 ;Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Read the Book.

 

[JLB]

@JLB

Greetings JLB,

Without going into the different senses the words save/saved/salvation are used the scriptures, we shall limit ourselves to this one sense: "saved from our sins and from the condemnation of God's law".

1) By grace alone through the faith and obedience of one, Jesus Christ. Is the only ground upon which The Spirit of God regenerates God's elect.

Romans 5:17​

“For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)”

Romans 5:19​

“For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.”

2) It is grace alone, without the deeds of the law, or, any law/commandment that said in essence: "This DO, and live, sin, and die" ~ as though men in the flesh have the power, desire, will, to hear and obey, when God's testimony said that they do not, that in them, that is in their flesh, dwelleth no good thing, no, not one.

Romans 7:18​

“For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.”

So, legally we are justified freely by grace through the redemption work of Christ.

Vitally, we were quickeded to life by the power of God alone, the "same" power that raised Christ from the dead, raised us when we were dead in trespaases and sins. God alone was the only active person working in the regeneration of His people, they were totally passive. Totally unaware of this spiritual birth, only the results became clear afterward, by being able to see, hear and understand, and even them a very lsow and long process

Ephesians 1:19​

“And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,”

3.) Practically speaking concerning our salvation is seen in the fact we now believe, begin to fear God, and love the truth and God's people, etc. whereas before we did not.

1st John 5:1​

“Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ "is" born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.”

Maybe more later....RB

Sorry bro, but none of the verses you listed show what we must do to be saved.


that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9


This is what biblical believing looks like; the action one must take to be saved.