Calvinism is Gospel !
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Dizerner
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You say God does not require it, then you say we must ask.
If God does not require, then there is no reason we must ask.
That's where regeneration comes in and it is for whosoever shall believe. The unregenerate state is therefore a crucial understanding of the need for salvation, as it highlights the stark reality of humanity’s spiritual condition without Christ.
Titus 3:3-7: 3 For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another.
4 But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared,
5 he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,
6 whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
This lack of renewal underscores the essence of the gospel message, calling individuals to repentance and faith, a theme reinforced in John 3:3, where Jesus tells Nicodemus that one must be “born again” to see the kingdom of God. Ultimately, the transformation from unregenerate to regenerate encapsulates the core message of Christian faith, inviting believers into a life characterized by empowerment through the Holy Spirit and a commitment to God’s will.
The unregenerate state of humanity is further illustrated throughout various biblical narratives and theological discussions. This condition often implies a heart and mind that are resistant to the truth of God’s Word. The Old Testament depicts this through the imagery of a heart of stone, suggesting an inability to respond to divine prompting or to embrace righteousness. Prophets like Ezekiel foresee a day when God would replace hearts of stone with hearts of flesh, signifying a miraculous inner transformation that allows individuals to respond to Him effectively.
Selah
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One thing for sure, those chosen before the foundation of the world all had one thing in common, and this one thing was this: they loved God; they believed.
Romans 8:28-33 (NKJV) 28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to [His] purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined [to be] conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. 31 What then shall we say to these things? If God [is] for us, who [can be] against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? [It is] God who justifies.
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brightfame52
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Believing in Christ is something that they which are in the flesh cannot do. In fact there mind and heart are enmity against God and Christ is God.
Till regeneration comes in.
brightfame52
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That salvation the vital phase
brightfame52
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They love God and believe after they have been made spiritually alive and giving a new heart
Yes, salvation does have phases. The traditional understanding of salvation includes three main phases:
Justification: The initial act of God declaring a sinner righteous through faith in Jesus Christ, marking the moment of salvation.
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Sanctification: The ongoing process of becoming more like Christ, involving spiritual growth and transformation.
Glorification: The final stage where believers are fully conformed to the image of Christ and enter eternal life.
Understanding these phases helps in grasping the full scope of God's redemptive work in the life of a believer.
brightfame52
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There's no faith in Jesus Christ until we're saved into the vital phase otherwise we're dead and sin and hate the true Christ. The vital phase is The sovereign work of the Holy Spirit giving life to one of God's elect that has been redeemed.
Faith is the basis of our salvation
Romans 10:9-10
that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
Romans 10:9-10
that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
brightfame52
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Faith is the basis of our salvation. Justification by faith alone as the crucial and initial element in our redemptive relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
Romans 10:9-10
that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
Romans 10:9-10
that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
clearly it is shown by the following verse men may love Yahweh
And choose life, as God does not desire men to lose life
God obviously believes men can repent
God has pleasure in men repenting, and scripture shows man can repent.
One problem for Calvinist theology is that the election is based on foreknowledge. That denies unconditional election
brightfame52
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Those who are in the flesh cannot please God it is plain as the noonday Sun Romans 8:8.
brightfame52
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You will have to define in the flesh.
God has pleasure in men repenting, and scripture shows man can repent.
Enoch pleased God
Hebrews 11:5–6 (LEB) — 5 By faith Enoch was taken up, so that he did not experience death, and he was not found, because God took him up. For before his removal, he had been approved as having been pleasing to God. 6 Now without faith it is impossible to please him, for the one who approaches God must believe that he exists and is a rewarder of those who seek him.
Genesis 6:9 (LEB) — 9 These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, without defect in his generations. Noah walked with God.
Job 1:8 (LEB) — 8 So Yahweh said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? Indeed, there is no one like him on the earth—a blameless man and upright and God-fearing and turning away from evil.”
Luke 1:5–6 (LEB) — 5 It happened that in the days of Herod, king of Judea, there was a certain priest, Zechariah by name, of the division of Abijah. And he had a wife from the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. 6 And they were both righteous in the sight of God, living blamelessly in all the commandments and regulations of the Lord.
Luke 1:13–17 (LEB) — 13 But the angel said to him, “Do not be afraid, Zechariah, because your prayer has been heard, and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you will call his name John. 14 And you will experience joy and exultation, and many will rejoice at his birth. 15 For he will be great in the sight of the Lord, and he must never drink wine or beer, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit while he is still in his mother’s womb. 16 And he will turn many of the sons of Israel to the Lord their God. 17 And he will go on before him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous, to prepare for the Lord a people made ready.”
Acts 10:1–4 (LEB) — 1 Now there was a certain man in Caesarea named Cornelius, a centurion of what was called the Italian Cohort, 2 devout and fearing God together with all his household, doing many charitable deeds for the people and praying to God continually. 3 About the ninth hour of the day, he saw clearly in a vision an angel of God coming to him and saying to him, “Cornelius.” 4 And he stared at him and became terrified and said, “What is it, Lord?” And he said to him, “Your prayers and your charitable deeds have gone up for a memorial offering before God.
Exodus 33:17 (LEB) — 17 And Yahweh said to Moses, “Also I will do this thing that you have spoken, because you have found favor in my eyes and I have known you by name.”
Genesis 7:1 (LEB) — 1 Then Yahweh said to Noah, “Go—you and all your household—into the ark, for I have seen you are righteous before me in this generation.
Psalm 18:19–20 (LEB) — 19 So he brought me out to a spacious place. He delivered me because he delighted in me. 20 Yahweh has rewarded me according to my righteousness; According to the cleanness of my hands he has repaid me.
Acts 7:44–48 (LEB) — 44 The tabernacle of the testimony belonged to our fathers in the wilderness, just as the one who spoke to Moses directed him to make it according to the design that he had seen, 45 and which, after receiving it in turn, our fathers brought in with Joshua when they dispossessed the nations that God drove out from the presence of our fathers, until the days of David, 46 who found favor in the sight of God and asked to find a habitation for the God of Jacob. 47 But Solomon built a house for him. 48 But the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands, just as the prophet says,
2 Chronicles 31:20–21 (LEB) — 20 And Hezekiah did according to this throughout all Judah. And he did what is good and what is right and what is faithful before Yahweh his God. 21 And in every work that he began in the service of the house of God or with respect to the law and the commandment to seek his God, he did with all his heart, and he prospered.
Malachi 3:16–18 (LEB) — 16 Then those who revered Yahweh spoke with one another. And Yahweh listened attentively and heard, and a scroll of remembrance was written before him of those who revere Yahweh and ponder his name. 17 “They will be mine,” says Yahweh of hosts, “on the day that I am acting, my treasured possession. I will have compassion on them as a man has compassion on his son who serves him. 18 You will return and see the difference between the righteous and the wicked, between the one who serves God and the one who does not serve him.
Regarding Romans
Those in the flesh are those hostile towards God. Something we did not see in the men spoken of above.
Romans 8:7 (KJV 1900) — 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
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