God is not the first cause of all that exists? Yikes
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civic
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Is man part of the first 6 days of creation? LOL Asking for a friend. Did God know man would fall into sin? This is elementary stuff.
civic
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Sin and evil did not exist when the 6 days of creation occurred . Everything God created was GOOD. Woe to those who call evil good.
Next fallacy
So what. God knew they would exist. In fact planned for it's existence.
Another candidate for a class in basic logic
The Calvinist wants to eat his cake and have it to
civic
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Nope conflating foreknowledge and predestination
civic
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Yes
indeedNope. Cop out
Sorry no you are the first cause of your sin not God
And still Calvinist want to deny their theology makes God the author of sin
civic
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Amen
Absolutely but God is the ultimate cause. Good job. Your catching on
You are not however as you make the holy God the author of all sin.
Nope. It doesn't. Sorry. Your claim of two ultimate causes is not only ignorant, but laughable.
Since GOD does not want anyone to persih in unrepentance, 2 Peter 3:9, and
since all HE had to do to achieve this desire was to NOT CREATE those HE knew woulddie unepentant, thenthe fact of theirexist
The Rogue Tomato
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9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any [of you] to perish but for all to come to repentance.
Sorry God is not the cause of your sin
And you fail to show there is anything rediculous about that statement
1John 2:16 For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life—is not from the Father but is from the world.
Jer. 32:35 They built the high places of Baal in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to offer up their sons and daughters to Molech, though I did not command them, nor did it enter into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
Is. 30:1 “Ah, stubborn children,” declares the LORD,
“who carry out a plan, but not mine,
and who make an alliance, but not of my Spirit,
that they may add sin to sin;
Gal. 5:7 You were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8 This persuasion is not from him who calls you.
1Cor. 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.
atpollard
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Who placed Adam, Eve, the TREE and the Serpent in the same garden?
Was it God who set that stage, or not?
Did that have any impact on the world into which we were born?
Rockson
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You can't falsely accuse the loving Creator by saying he caused sin by some directive because these things were in the Garden. Man caused sin by his actions.
So if parents had a stove in their kitchen and they told their kid to keep their hands off the burners that means if their kids disobeyed they therefore caused their kid to do it? What sort of reasoning is that.
Yeah it also has an impact for parents to have a stove in their kitchen? So they caused their kids hand to be burnt if they put it on the burner?
