By the grace of God.
Arminian perspective on Gods Sovereignty and mans free will
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Eternally-Grateful
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if he is going to live out his character he claims to be yes.
If he asks us to do what we does not do. that also would make him what?
Them, not anyone.
Eternally-Grateful
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Grace is one things that draws a natural man to God yes.
Eternally-Grateful
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Them/anyone, it does not matter
God tells us to love our enemy, If he does not love THEM and offer them salvation, He is not the god he claims to be
Define natural man.
civic
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Yet that grace is for everyone since Gods will is the no one perish but for all men to be saved. Gods means of grace is the gospel message which is for everyone.
Eternally-Grateful
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A man who is not yet born again, who is separated from God. who is lost.
the state one is in until they repent and come to God in faith. and God saves them through adoption
TibiasDad
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4. Inform us of his desire to save us, of his plan to save us, and tell us how that salvation can be achieved.
Romans 10:14How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”
Acts17:24“The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 26From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.
Acts2: 37When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
38Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”
5. Convince our hearts of the truth about the above events, and urge us to respond positively to all that he has done.
Matt 28:18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
2 Cor 5:17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: <a href="https://biblehub.com/niv/2_corinthians/5.htm#footnotes" title="Or Christ, that person is a new creation.">a</a> The old has gone, the new is here! 18All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. 20We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. 21God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
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Let me rephrase my thought: Does God have to provide belief to someone in order to believe, or do we already possess the capacity to believe or disbelieve when something is presented to us for a decision?
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You have the natural ability but lack the moral or the desire. God must act first.
Are you suggesting that God gave the commandments, known as the Law of Moses together with the natural ability to obey, but then acted only on some, in fact few in percentage, to give them the moral desire to obey? Clearly that same question can be asked concerning believing in God. Are you suggesting that God has made believing in Him, i.e., having faith in God, the critical factor for salvation, but then gives that ability to believe in Him to only some and not others?
What sort of God would do that? Why would God do that?
My answer to such questions is that God would not do such things. He would not act like that. God would not do that and He doesn't do that.
No, He does not. There is no way to argue that is the action of a righteous God.
The real question is not that He chooses some to save and to condemn the rest; rather, it is what the basis for His choices is. It is not, as so many proclaim, independent of the persons, themselves, that He chooses.
Yes. Since He didn't cause the Holocaust to occur.
His foreknowledge of what the person would do. He knew from before the foundation of who would believe in Him and would love Him.
Eternally-Grateful
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Your right God does.
And he said there is non righteous
But he also said he loved them all so much he came to offer himself up for them. that whoever believes. he will apply his own righteousness to their account
God allowed Hitler of his free will to do what Hitler wanted.
God did not cause the holocost to occure. He just did not prevent it
Who is "them"?
He could have stopped Him right? Instead He allowed the mas murder of 6 million people to preserve your precious free will?
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