Arminian perspective on Gods Sovereignty and mans free will

[Presby02]

does that mean if he did not he caused Hitler to kill millions?

come on...

That's not the question. Could He have stopped the Holocaust yes or no?

 

[Presby02]

nor do you. But we do get to dictate what love looks like. because God showed us in his word.

And the God you are trying to feed us does not follow his own commands

He told us when he came to earth.

it is the will of the father in heaven that all who believe will not perish, and live forever.

those who do not repent and believe will remain in a condemned state

I do not try. LOL

Does not follow His commands?

Is it His will that all who do not believe perish?

 

[Presby02]

yes he is

But when he claims he is a God of love. he can not go against that character.

God is fully able to give his creation freedom to not only serve and love him, but to reject him.

that is how a relationship occurs in the natural world.

Would your God of love allow 6 million Jews to be slaughtered?

 

[praise_yeshua]

The question was, could He, not should He.

There is no could without should.

Your thoughts betray you. You think like a puppet waiting for someone to "pull your strings".....

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

That's not the question. Could He have stopped the Holocaust yes or no?

God could stop all evil

does that make god the author and instigator of evil?

your question is invalid to the topic at hand.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

I do not try. LOL

Does not follow His commands?

Is it His will that all who do not believe perish?

Yes.

but who's will is it that they do not believe?

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Would your God of love allow 6 million Jews to be slaughtered?

lol..

He would not allow billions to go to hell without giving them a chance to be saved.

God does not stop all evil. if he did. no one would seek God.

 

[TibiasDad]

God created the world in such a way He knew it would happen. How can it be otherwise if God is omniscience. Same with the garden. The tree, Eve and the serpent were put there for a reason. To carry out Hods plan.

Foreknowledge is not Predestination.


Doug

 

[TibiasDad]

I agree. So God had to act first.

Always! He is the only one who can reconcile the relationship with man.


Doug

 

[Presby02]

There is no could without should.

Your thoughts betray you. You think like a puppet waiting for someone to "pull your strings".....

LOL, you God of love sat by

Always! He is the only one who can reconcile the relationship with man.


Doug

 

[Presby02]

Foreknowledge is not Predestination.


Doug

Never said it was. God is predestination. That is how He foreknows.

 

[Presby02]

lol..

He would not allow billions to go to hell without giving them a chance to be saved.

God does not stop all evil. if he did. no one would seek God.

So He allowed 6 million Jews to be slaughtered so some would seek Him?

 

[Presby02]

Yes.

but who's will is it that they do not believe?

Yours of course. Does God change your will, your desires by changing your heart of stone to a heart of flesh?

 

[Presby02]

God could stop all evil

does that make god the author and instigator of evil?

your question is invalid to the topic at hand.

No it's not. LOL Because you have no coherent response does not mean it's a invalid question.

It makes Him complicit at the very least no?

 

[MTMattie]

Is it His will that all who do not believe perish?

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Never said it was. God is predestination. That is how He foreknows.

Better yet. God is God. As God he is Omniscient. As God he knows.

because he knows. he predestined.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

So He allowed 6 million Jews to be slaughtered so some would seek Him?

You want to question God feel free.

I just know this, In the end, God wins..

as for the rest. this is about the only thing I think we are given

2 peter 3: 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. (Like Hitler)

8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Yours of course. Does God change your will, your desires by changing your heart of stone to a heart of flesh?

You can not say this if you are not given the option or ability to repent.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

No it's not. LOL Because you have no coherent response does not mean it's a invalid question.

It makes Him complicit at the very least no?

whatever.

 

[MTMattie]

Opinion: Appropriate for " Arminian perspective on Gods Sovereignty and mans free will"
Can you imagine believing you are smarter than God? Or that He did not say what he said when he inspired the scriptures?

Although I do not suppose that man can be blamed of himself as the churches and pulpits and the soap box televangelists all preach differently
from their respective studies and much of it sticks to those who hear and are blinded to reasoning self interpretation.

I used to blame it on Satan in the Sanctuary, which may be part of it... but there certainly is a problem with so many not having a consensus of
... if I may borrow a phrase that if you are too young you will not understand... what the meaning of is , is.

Carry on my brothers and sisters. Time is short.

Maranatha