An Article on free will

No, that is not true. There are many occasions where the word πιστεύω [pisteuō] does not mean to take action but rather means only to acknowledge the truth of what is being presented.

John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things?

In this verse there is no action being implied. Clearly, Jesus is simply questioning their acknowledgement and acceptance of the truth of what He is telling them. If you do a word search, you will find many places where only mental assent is meant. On the other hand there are other occasions where both mental assent and trust or confidence is meant. Consider

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?"
John 9:36 He answered, "And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?"

Here in both verses we see the words πιστεύσω εἰς [pisteuō eis] meaning to believe in. Here the intent is to acknowledge the truth and place trust in the Son of Man. Combinations of pisteuō en or pisteuō epi also translated as believe in can be found.

Consider John 11:25-26.

John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live,
John 11:26 and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?"

Here we see both believe in, i.e., mental assent and trust, and believe, i.e., simply mental assent, being implied.

There are other occasions where the meaning of the verse or passage is clearly to believe in where the Greek word for in is omitted.

The above has addressed only the verb form of the word. I won't bother here to address the noun form.

I agree with you, Jim. A person will not take any action he/she does not believe (think, consider) that the action being requested by God is necessary or helpful or right.
What I want to stress is that the faith that God requires is that which leads to taking the action God wants us to take: to repent and start living the life He wants us to live. This is exactly why James says that demons can "believe" in the sense of mental or verbal assent, but such belief is sterile.

I invite you and our readers to examine what Jesus thought God wanted from us.

28 “But what do you think? A man had two sons, and he came to the first and said, ‘Son, go, work today in my vineyard.’
29 He answered and said, ‘I will not,’ but afterward he regretted it and went.
30 Then he came to the second and said likewise. And he answered and said, ‘I go, sir,’ but he did not go.
31 Which of the two did the will of his father?”
They said to Him, “The first.”
Jesus said to them, “Assuredly, I say to you that tax collectors and harlots enter the kingdom of God before you.
32 For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him; but tax collectors and harlots believed him; and when you saw it, you did not afterward relent and believe him.


How we know that harlots and tax collectors had truly believed in John? Because they understood theology better than the ones did not believe John? Or was it because harlots and tax collector repented and changed their life?

Don't be deceived, my friends: Many sectarian pastors are eager to persuade you that the RIGHT THEOLOGY equals believing in Christ. That's not true. Believing in Christ means doing what He asks us to do, regardless of whether you think Jesus is God, The Son of God, the Messiah, preexistent or not preexistent, married or single, with a physical body or not, etc.

Why do sectarian pastors want us to believe in the salvific power of orthodox theology? Because the rock where they build their self esteem as pastors, their identity, their ability to influence others and get their contribution$, is the "correct" theology.
The ROCK of those pastors is not Christ, but what is said and thought about Christ. Specifically, around supernatural aspects of belief. Things that have little or no effect on Christian life.
 
Are there examples in Scripture where the Holy Spirit moved upon individuals in a non-regenerative/regenerative manner-
Absolutely! I would say OT Prophets are the best example of that.
-i.e., instances where the Spirit’s activity did not result in or signify spiritual rebirth or saving faith?

J.
Their faith became saving faith at the Cross and Resurrection of Christ.
 
@synergy
Here we go again with the Calvinist idea that one can be Regenerated (alive) but not yet a believer (still dead in sins). That's Calvinism's Living Dead theology, a Zombie monstrosity.

Every Calvinist Congregation at night could be deemed the Night of the Living Dead.
So, this is all you have to say, from my post to you. Why not take the word of God and try to prove me wrong? I know why, and others should know as well ~ because you cannot do so.

I'll do what you are not able to do, which is to provide scriptures to support my teachings.

The Examples of Regeneration preclude faith:.

a) John the Baptist was regenerated before birth, thereforth before faith! (Luke 1:15; Rom 8:14; Gal 5:22).

Luke 1:15​

“For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.”

John must have been one of those Zombie babies you talk about.

b) Cornelius was regenerated before hearing the gospel (Acts 10:2-4, 34-35).

Acts 10:2​

A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.”

c) Lydia’s heart was opened before rather than by the gospel (Acts 16:14).

All these scriptures present a major blow to your corrupt gospel.

d) Ministers are to feed sheep (John 21:15-17) and perfect saints (Eph 4:12).

John 21:17​

“He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.”

Not to take goats and make them sheep!

The Glory of God precludes faith. Regeneration, an integral part of salvation, is all of God (1st Cor 1:26-31). b) God will not allow men to boast or to obligate Him (Rom 4:4; Eph 2:9

We have so much more...later.
 
The Examples of Regeneration preclude faith:.

a) John the Baptist was regenerated before birth, thereforth before faith! (Luke 1:15; Rom 8:14; Gal 5:22).

Luke 1:15​

“For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.”

John must have been one of those Zombie babies you talk about.

b) Cornelius was regenerated before hearing the gospel (Acts 10:2-4, 34-35).

Acts 10:2​

A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.”

c) Lydia’s heart was opened before rather than by the gospel (Acts 16:14).

All these scriptures present a major blow to your corrupt gospel.

d) Ministers are to feed sheep (John 21:15-17) and perfect saints (Eph 4:12).
Couple of problems here---and let's leave out the ad hominems please--not Christlike and not showing fruit.

John the Baptist – Luke 1:15
Text: “For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.”



The phrase πλησθήσεται πνεύματος ἁγίου ἔτι ἐκ κοιλίας μητρὸς αὐτοῦ indicates a future passive verb (πλησθήσεται = “he will be filled”), with the temporal phrase ἔτι ἐκ κοιλίας (“even from the womb”).

This is not the technical word for regeneration (e.g., παλινγενεσία), but refers to the prophetic Spirit's empowerment.

This language is more akin to Old Testament prophetic endowment (cf. Jeremiah 1:5; Judges 13:5).

It demonstrates the Holy Spirit’s presence and activity before conscious belief—but not necessarily regeneration in the salvific New Covenant sense.

Spirit-filling does occur before conscious faith in John’s case, but this is a unique prophetic calling, not a normative soteriological order.

b) Cornelius – Acts 10:2–4, 34–35
Text: “A devout man, and one that feared God… gave much alms… and prayed to God always.”



Cornelius is described as εὐσεβὴς (devout) and φοβούμενος τὸν θεόν (God-fearing), terms used of Gentile proselytes or God-fearers.

His prayers and alms “ascend as a memorial” before God—language of divine acceptance (Acts 10:4).

Yet Peter is sent so he may “hear words whereby he shall be saved” (Acts 11:14).

The Spirit falls upon him only after Peter preaches Christ and Cornelius hears and believes (Acts 10:44; cf. 15:7–9).

Cornelius feared God and was devout, but regeneration--if equated with receiving the Spirit--came after hearing the gospel, not before.

c) Lydia – Acts 16:14
Text: “whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.”



The verb διήνοιξεν (“opened”) is aorist indicative active--God actively opened her heart.

The result: προσέχειν τοῖς λαλουμένοις (“to pay attention to the things spoken”).

This denotes divine enablement prior to reception of Paul’s message—not clearly regeneration, but pre-faith preparation---forgive me for coining words here--

The text does not specify regeneration, only that God granted attentiveness.


This is a case of prevenient grace---God enabled her to respond---but it does not explicitly say she was regenerated before faith.

d) John 21:15–17 & Ephesians 4:12
John 21:15–17 – Jesus commands Peter to “feed my lambs/sheep,” which implies discipleship, not initial regeneration.

Ephesians 4:12 – Saints are equipped for ministry; this relates to spiritual growth post-conversion, not the order of salvation.

Soo---

Your examples highlight that the Spirit can operate before conscious faith--but they do not conclusively prove regeneration precedes faith in the New Testament salvific sense.

In John the Baptist’s case, the Spirit’s filling was prophetic and prenatal—more analogous to Old Covenant empowerment than salvation.

Cornelius had pre-gospel fear of God, but regeneration came after gospel proclamation.

Lydia’s heart-opening shows divine initiative but not full regeneration before hearing the word.


Person Claim Actual Text Indicates Regeneration Before Faith?
John Baptist Filled with Spirit in womb Prophetic filling, not salvific regeneration ❌ No
Cornelius Feared God pre-gospel Saved after hearing gospel (Acts 11:14) ❌ No
Lydia Heart opened Enabled to hear Paul—faith followed (Acts 16:15) ❌ No
Disciples Fed sheep/perfect saints Post-faith shepherding (Jn 21; Eph 4) ❌ Not Applicable

Final Note-- Not one of these cases provides a clear lexical or theological statement that regeneration (new birth, παλινγενεσία or ζωοποιέω) occurred prior to faith. Instead, they demonstrate God's sovereign role in drawing people to faith--but the new birth itself is consistently tied to believing the gospel (John 1:12–13; Eph 1:13; Rom 10:17).

Cannot get away from this @Red Baker/brother.

J.
 
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@synergy

So, this is all you have to say, from my post to you. Why not take the word of God and try to prove me wrong? I know why, and others should know as well ~ because you cannot do so.
Do you continue to deny that unbelievers are still in sin? In that case it is you that is promoting a "corrupt gospel", as you call it.
I'll do what you are not able to do, which is to provide scriptures to support my teachings.

The Examples of Regeneration preclude faith:.

a) John the Baptist was regenerated before birth, thereforth before faith! (Luke 1:15; Rom 8:14; Gal 5:22).

Luke 1:15​

“For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.”
Where does it say he was regenerated? Many OT Saints and Prophets were anointed with the Holy Spirit but not one of them claimed to be regenerated. In fact, the gift of regeneration or being born again is exclusive to the NT. I'm surprised you do not know that.
John must have been one of those Zombie babies you talk about.
Stop slandering John the Baptist. What did he ever do to you to make you slander him that way?
b) Cornelius was regenerated before hearing the gospel (Acts 10:2-4, 34-35).

Acts 10:2​

A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
No mention of regeneration. You failed again.
c) Lydia’s heart was opened before rather than by the gospel (Acts 16:14).
and..? Where is regeneration mentioned?
All these scriptures present a major blow to your corrupt gospel.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is not corrupt. Get over yourself.
d) Ministers are to feed sheep (John 21:15-17) and perfect saints (Eph 4:12).

John 21:17​

“He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.”

Not to take goats and make them sheep!
Huh? Jesus came to rescue the lost sheep. It is lost sheep that we are all supposed to rescue. I'm surprised you do not know that.
The Glory of God precludes faith.
You have failed miserably to prove that.
Regeneration, an integral part of salvation, is all of God (1st Cor 1:26-31). b) God will not allow men to boast or to obligate Him (Rom 4:4; Eph 2:9
Of course regeneration is an integral part of salvation. That does not prove that it comes before belief. You failed again.
We have so much more...later.
The only thing you continue to prove is that there is no verse anywhere in the OT or in the NT that explicitly declares that regeneration precedes belief.
 
Mans will by nature isn't free from the spiritual captivity of the devil, and his only hope is if God gives him or her repentance to acknowledging of the Truth 2 Tim 2:25-26

25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

See our will by nature cant overcome the devils will over us, so our will isnt free from the devils captivity.

And the Truth is none other than Gospel Truth in Vs 25,

This passage teaches us that no one can repent and turn to the truth until or unless God gives us salvation or its synonym repentance
 
Mans will by nature isn't free from the spiritual captivity of the devil, and his only hope is if God gives him or her repentance to acknowledging of the Truth 2 Tim 2:25-26
How can man HOPE for something that will never happen?
If God has chosen not to be give repentance to 90% of men, then speaking about hope is meaningless… a kind of black humor, a bad joke.
 
Except-you have to admit human volition @Kermos--


Romans 6:16 – Presentation of members to sin or obedience


Text:

“Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?” (ESV)

Greek:

οὐκ οἴδατε ὅτι ᾧ παριστάνετε ἑαυτοὺς δούλους εἰς ὑπακοήν, δοῦλοί ἐστε ᾧ ὑπακούετε



The verb παριστάνετε (present active indicative, 2nd person plural) is used here in an active form implying agency and deliberation. The audience is being addressed as morally responsible agents who choose whom to serve. This reflects a dichotomous moral decision—obedience unto righteousness or sin unto death.


2. Galatians 5:16–25 – Walk by the Spirit vs. Gratify the Flesh



“But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.” (v.16) Clear as a bell @Kermos

Greek:

λέγω δέ, Πνεύματι περιπατεῖτε καὶ ἐπιθυμίαν σαρκὸς οὐ μὴ τελέσητε.



Περιπατεῖτε is a present active imperative (2nd person plural), explicitly issuing a command. This assumes the addressees have the moral ability and obligation to respond. The whole passage (vv. 16–25) contrasts “works of the flesh” with “fruit of the Spirit,” and concludes with “If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit” (v.25, στοιχῶμεν = present active subjunctive), reinforcing the notion of volitional alignment.


3. 1 Corinthians 10:13 – The Way of Escape and Choosing It


Text:

“God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.”


Greek:

ποιήσει σὺν τῷ πειρασμῷ καὶ τὴν ἔκβασιν τοῦ δύνασθαι ὑπενεγκεῖν



While the escape (ἔκβασις) is divinely provided, the implication is that believers must take it. The verb ὑπενεγκεῖν (to endure) is an aorist active infinitive, denoting the purpose of the escape—so that they might be able to bear it. The availability of escape assumes an act of the will to choose the godly path.


4. Philippians 2:12–13 – Work Out Your Salvation



“Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to work for his good pleasure.”


God is not working out your salvation brother


Greek:

μετὰ φόβου καὶ τρόμου τὴν ἑαυτῶν σωτηρίαν κατεργάζεσθε

θεὸς γάρ ἐστιν ὁ ἐνεργῶν ἐν ὑμῖν καὶ τὸ θέλειν καὶ τὸ ἐνεργεῖν



Κατεργάζεσθε is a present middle imperative (2nd person plural), calling for deliberate effort and participation in God’s saving work. While v.13 emphasizes divine enablement (ἐνεργῶν, present active participle), v.12 assumes human response. The balance assumes synergy, not coercion.


5. Romans 12:1–2 – Presenting Bodies as Living Sacrifice



“Present your bodies as a living sacrifice…” Who is doing the presenting brother?

Greek:

παραστῆσαι τὰ σώματα ὑμῶν θυσίαν ζῶσαν



Παραστῆσαι is the aorist active infinitive used after παρακαλῶ (I urge), indicating an intentional, once-for-all act. This is a moral and volitional appeal grounded in “the mercies of God,” appealing to the will of believers to choose consecration over conformity to the world.


6. 2 Corinthians 6:17 – Come Out from Among Them



“Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord…” Human volition.

Greek:

ἐξέλθετε ἐκ μέσου αὐτῶν καὶ ἀφορίσθητε



Both ἐξέλθετε and ἀφορίσθητε are aorist imperatives, issuing divine commands through Paul to separate from idolatrous or immoral company. This presumes the will is engaged and responsible for obedience or defiance.


7. Colossians 3:1–2 – Seek the Things Above



“If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above…” Who are those seeking?

Greek:

εἰ οὖν συνηγέρθητε τῷ Χριστῷ, τὰ ἄνω ζητεῖτε



Ζητεῖτε is a present active imperative. The word ζητέω denotes earnest seeking and is used frequently to denote volitional and purposeful pursuit (cf. Matthew 6:33). The imperative assumes moral responsibility and the capacity to act accordingly.


8. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 – Test Everything; Hold Fast What is Good



“Test everything; hold fast what is good.” Who is doing the testing brother?

Greek:

πάντα δὲ δοκιμάζετε, τὸ καλὸν κατέχετε


Both verbs are present active imperatives (δοκιμάζετε, κατέχετε), addressed to the whole congregation. These exhortations rest on the assumption that believers can, and must, make discerning judgments and retain what is good, rejecting what is evil.


9. Ephesians 4:22–24 – Put Off the Old Man; Put On the New



“Put off your old self… be renewed… put on the new self…” Is God doing this for you brother?

Greek:

ἀποθέσθαι ὑμᾶς… ἀνανεοῦσθαι… ἐνδύσασθαι τὸν καινὸν ἄνθρωπον


These are infinitives used after the verb ἐδιδάχθητε (you were taught), implying moral instruction with volitional response. The middle voice (ἀποθέσθαι, ἐνδύσασθαι) emphasizes the subject’s involvement in the action—casting off and clothing oneself is a deliberate act.


10. 2 Corinthians 8:3 – They Gave of Their Own Accord


Text:

“They gave voluntarily of their own accord.”

Greek:

κατὰ δύναμιν καὶ παρὰ δύναμιν ἔδωκαν αὐθαίρετοι



Αὐθαίρετοι is an adjective meaning “of their own free will,” used to describe the Macedonian churches’ generosity. It confirms volitional agency in giving and contradicts deterministic views of human action. Their generosity is neither coerced nor externally imposed but proceeds from personal choice.


How much clearer could the Scripture possibly be? And correct you are--to Christ Jesus be all the glory, honor and praise!


Shalom.


J.

I admit the love of Christ controls us Christians (2 Corinthians 5:14).

I admit the love of Christ's control penetrates so deep into us Christians that even our will/volition is under our Father's loving care for the Holy Spirit assures us it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure (Philippians 2:13).

I admit God alone brings about good works in us children of God for the Word of God lovingly says “he who practices the Truth comes to the Light, that his works may be revealed, that they are having been worked in God” (John 3:21).

I admit God is in control of every good work recorded in the passages you cited such as Romans 6:16, Galatians 5:16-25, 1 Corinthians 10:13, Philippians 2:12-13, Romans 12:1-2, 2 Corinthians 6:17, Colossians 3:1-2, 1 Thessalonians 5:21, Ephesians 4:22-24, and 2 Corinthians 8:3.

You admit that you claim ownership of the good works in the passages you cited, so your claimed works are truly an idolatrous work of exalting yourself above the Holy Spirit because the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, good, faith, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).

You admit that there are works of the flesh which includes idolatry for among your passage citations is this Holy Spirit inspired writing of the Apostle Paul "the works of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God" (Galatians 5:19-21).

You never ever do the good of choosing Christ for Lord Jesus declares “you did not choose Me, but I chose you” (John 15:16) and “I chose you out of the world” (John 15:19, includes salvation).

I admit this Truth (John 14:6) by God's grace for God's glory!
 
You admit that you claim ownership of the good works in the passages you cited, so your claimed works are truly an idolatrous work of exalting yourself above the Holy Spirit because the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, good, faith, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).

You admit that there are works of the flesh which includes idolatry for among your passage citations is this Holy Spirit inspired writing of the Apostle Paul "the works of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God" (Galatians 5:19-21).
Exalting myself over and above the Holy Spirit?

J.
 
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Do you continue to deny that unbelievers are still in sin?
I'm going to finish answering your post, in the meantime, I would like you or your friends to answer this question for me:

Can a person be born again, yet be an "unbeliever" in certain biblical truths, and even in much biblical truths, due to a few factors:

A.) unable to eat the meat of word, because they are still on milk;

B.) never been heard or, taught certain truths;

C.) If heard and taught, just refuse to see the truth, because of pride in going about to establish their own righteousness, even though they love, fear and have a true zeal for God.
 
Can a person be born again, yet be an "unbeliever" in certain biblical truths, and even in much biblical truths, due to a few factors:

A.) unable to eat the meat of word, because they are still on milk;

B.) never been heard or, taught certain truths;

C.) If heard and taught, just refuse to see the truth, because of pride in going about to establish their own righteousness, even though they love, fear and have a true zeal for God.
Yes. Actually an excellent question.

Scripture explicitly teaches that born-again believers can remain at a "milk" stage for a considerable time, even when they should have advanced to "solid food."

Hebrews 5:12–14 (ESV):
"For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God.
You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child.
But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil."

1 Corinthians 3:1–2 (ESV):
"But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ.
I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready..."


Yes.
Scripture gives numerous examples of believers being ignorant of important truths simply because they had not yet been taught.

Acts 18:24–26 (ESV) — Apollos:
"Now a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus.
He was an eloquent man, competent in the Scriptures.
He had been instructed in the way of the Lord.
And being fervent in spirit, he spoke and taught accurately the things concerning Jesus, though he knew only the baptism of John.
He began to speak boldly in the synagogue, but when Priscilla and Aquila heard him,
they took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately."


Apollos was a sincere, fervent believer, but lacked complete knowledge-- until corrected privately and gently.

Also-

Acts 19:1–7 — The Ephesian "disciples":
They had believed but had not even heard that there was a Holy Spirit!

Thus, lack of teaching can cause born-again believers to hold incomplete or incorrect theology without negating the authenticity of their regeneration.

Yes, but with careful distinctions.
Regeneration breaks the dominion of sin (Romans 6:14) but does not immediately eradicate all pride, stubbornness, or misconceptions.

Romans 10:2–3 (ESV) — About Israel:
"For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.
For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own,
they did not submit to God's righteousness."


Though Paul speaks about unbelieving Jews, the principle applies:
Even among God's covenant people, pride and self-righteousness can obscure or resist divine truth, despite genuine zeal.

Among Christians, a parallel can be seen--

Galatians 2:11–14 (ESV) — Peter's Hypocrisy:
"But when Cephas (Peter) came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned.
For before certain men came from James, he was eating with the Gentiles;
but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party..."

Peter, a born-again, Spirit-filled apostle, fell into prideful behavior — contradicting the truth of the gospel he fully knew!

Thus, regeneration does not make pride or self-righteousness impossible — it only means these will not define the person's final destiny if they are truly born again.

J.
 
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I'm going to finish answering your post, in the meantime, I would like you or your friends to answer this question for me:

Can a person be born again, yet be an "unbeliever" in certain biblical truths, and even in much biblical truths, due to a few factors:
You know that I believe Calvinism is not logical RB.

HOW can a person be an UNBELIEVER
AND
be born again?

A born again person is a BELEIVER.

IF YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART, YOU WILL BE BORN AGAIN.
Romans 10:9-10

Surely, this means BELIEVE as is understood in the original Koine Greek.
If not....everyone that believes Jesus ever lived would be saved.

A.) unable to eat the meat of word, because they are still on milk;
So I don't get to be saved until I can eat the meat?

B.) never been heard or, taught certain truths;
So I can't be saved until I know certain truths...?
Sounds very gnostic to me.
Only the very knowledgable get to be saved....
Not what the NT teaches RB.
Need scripture?
C.) If heard and taught, just refuse to see the truth, because of pride in going about to establish their own righteousness, even though they love, fear and have a true zeal for God.
Well, if we refuse to see the truth, we cannot be saved.
That, of course, would make us be an UNBELIEVER.

An UNBELIEVER CANNOT BE BORN AGAIN.

The NT teaches us:
BELIEVE IN JESUS AND YOU WILL BE SAVED/BORN AGAIN, A BELIEVER.

Simple.
 
@synergy @Johann @Jim @MTMattie @GodsGrace @Kermos @brightfame52 @civic

I'm going to finish answering your post, in the meantime, I would like you or your friends to answer this question for me:

Can a person be born again, yet be an "unbeliever" in certain biblical truths, and even in much biblical truths, due to a few factors:

A.) unable to eat the meat of word, because they are still on milk;

B.) never been heard or, taught certain truths;

C.) If heard and taught, just refuse to see the truth, because of pride in going about to establish their own righteousness, even though they love, fear and have a true zeal for God.
First you must define "believer". And fortunately, it has little if anything to do with knowledge or comprehension of "certain biblical truths". Under the new covenant it is little more than acknowledgement, acceptance and trust in the truth that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. That clearly is inferred by Jesus' words concerning the kingdom of God belonging to the likes of children (Mar 10:14-15}. That, I think, is the essence of what is implied win John 1:12. In reality it is probably an individual thing for what constitutes receiving Him and believing in His name as required in John 1:12. But, at whatever that level is for the individual, it is sufficient to be given the right to become a child of God, that is, to become one born of God.

And in keeping with that, one cannot be born again and yet be and unbeliever.
 
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