An Article on free will

[brightfame52]

No it has not. It has been formulated by gnostic inspiration which cannot address rebuttal

Yes it has, and all my posts to you are rebuttals to your false teaching

 

[civic]

Jn 12:32 is the Sheep, the drawing is when they are regenerated. Also Jn 12:32 sets forth the saving, converting Death of Christ. None of them shall be lost

No sheep mentioned nice try with your presuppositions once again but a major failure.

 

[Rowan]

You must be regenerated first, which is a Spiritual saving Titus 3:5 then you will come to Christ, believe on Him. And believing on Christ isnt believing in the false christ of arminainism, its the Christ of particular, effectual redemption.

You are regenerated after becoming A child of God.

Theological Meaning.—The “new man” is the converted, then becomes the regenerated man. The phrase has its significance for the great theological doctrine of regeneration as it expands into the broad work of sanctification. Is the sinner dead? Regeneration is a new life. Is holiness non-existent in him? Regeneration is a new creation. Is he born in sin? Regeneration is a new birth. Is he determined by his fallen, depraved nature? Regeneration is a spiritual determination. Is he the subject of carnal appetites? Regeneration is a holy appetency. Is he thought of as the old sinful man? Regeneration is a new man. Is the sinful mind blind? Regeneration is a new understanding. Is the heart stony? Regeneration is a heart of flesh. Is the conscience seared? Regeneration is a good conscience. Is the will impotent? Regeneration is a new impotentiation. The regenerated man is a man with a new governing disposition—a “new man,” an “inward man,” a “spiritual man.”
(1) The “new man”—the regenerate man—is not a theological transubstantiation: a being whose substance has been supernaturally converted into some other sort of substance.
(2) He is not a scientific transmutation: a species of one kind which has been naturally evolved into a species of another kind.
(3) He is not a metaphysical reconstruction: a being with a new mental equipment.
(4) He is an evangelical convert: an “old man” with a new regnant moral disposition, an “outward man” with a new inward fons et origo of moral life; a “natural man” with a new renovated spiritual heart.


The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia

 

[Aeliana]

You not talking about nothing friend

Are you calling John 4:1 nothing? Oh my my.

 

[Aeliana]

You must be regenerated first, which is a Spiritual saving Titus 3:5 then you will come to Christ, believe on Him. And believing on Christ isnt believing in the false christ of arminainism, its the Christ of particular, effectual redemption.

That's putting the horse before the cart. The rest of it is an opinion. I understand how hard it is for someone that believes the false Doctrine to see the truth. But they're still hope.

 

[brightfame52]

No sheep mentioned nice try with your presuppositions once again but a major failure.

Dont have to be mentioned, was made clear in Jn 10

 

[brightfame52]

You are a regenerated after becoming A child of God.

Theological Meaning.—The “new man” is the converted, then becomes the regenerated man. The phrase has its significance for the great theological doctrine of regeneration as it expands into the broad work of sanctification. Is the sinner dead? Regeneration is a new life. Is holiness non-existent in him? Regeneration is a new creation. Is he born in sin? Regeneration is a new birth. Is he determined by his fallen, depraved nature? Regeneration is a spiritual determination. Is he the subject of carnal appetites? Regeneration is a holy appetency. Is he thought of as the old sinful man? Regeneration is a new man. Is the sinful mind blind? Regeneration is a new understanding. Is the heart stony? Regeneration is a heart of flesh. Is the conscience seared? Regeneration is a good conscience. Is the will impotent? Regeneration is a new impotentiation. The regenerated man is a man with a new governing disposition—a “new man,” an “inward man,” a “spiritual man.”
(1) The “new man”—the regenerate man—is not a theological transubstantiation: a being whose substance has been supernaturally converted into some other sort of substance.
(2) He is not a scientific transmutation: a species of one kind which has been naturally evolved into a species of another kind.
(3) He is not a metaphysical reconstruction: a being with a new mental equipment.
(4) He is an evangelical convert: an “old man” with a new regnant moral disposition, an “outward man” with a new inward fons et origo of moral life; a “natural man” with a new renovated spiritual heart.


The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia

You must be regenerated first, which is a Spiritual saving Titus 3:5 then you will come to Christ, believe on Him. And believing on Christ isnt believing in the false christ of arminainism, its the Christ of particular, effectual redemption.

 

[brightfame52]

That's putting the horse before the cart. The rest of it is an opinion. I understand how hard it is for someone that believes the false Doctrine to see the truth. But they're still hope.

You must be regenerated first, which is a Spiritual saving Titus 3:5 then you will come to Christ, believe on Him. And believing on Christ isnt believing in the false christ of arminainism, its the Christ of particular, effectual redemption.

 

[Aeliana]

You must be regenerated first, which is a Spiritual saving Titus 3:5 then you will come to Christ, believe on Him. And believing on Christ isnt believing in the false christ of arminainism, its the Christ of particular, effectual redemption.

Thats just an opinion and it's putting the cart in front of the horse. Regeneration means that one has been born again or born from above (John 3:3, 5, 7, 8).

 

[brightfame52]

It's just an opinion and it's putting the cart in front of the horse. Regeneration means that one has been born again or born from above (John 3:3, 5, 7, 8).

I already said its my opinion, yet formed by the word of God

 

[civic]

Dont have to be mentioned, was made clear in Jn 10

I guess Jesus name doesn’t need to be mentioned to be saved . See Acts 4:12.

 

[Rowan]

You must be regenerated first, which is a Spiritual saving Titus 3:5 then you will come to Christ, believe on Him. And believing on Christ isnt believing in the false christ of arminainism, its the Christ of particular, effectual redemption.

Conversion occurs when sinners turn to God in repentance and faith for salvation. After salvation comes regeneration. The Bible demonstrate that regeneration comes after faith.

 

[Rowan]

I already said its my opinion, yet formed by the word of God

What exactly does that mean? It could mean you misinterpreted the word of God and formed a false opinion.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

What exactly does that mean? It could mean you misinterpreted the word of God and formed a false opinion.

Funny you should put it that way. I was 100% free-willer when God saved me. I was gifted with a passion for reading the Bible. And the more I read it, the more convinced I became that free-willism is wrong. Perhaps if you put away your preconceptions about free will vs. robots (no third option) and prayed and went back and studied the Bible again, you'd see things differently.

 

[Aeliana]

I already said its my opinion, yet formed by the word of God

If we say that before we are born again we must practice righteousness, we would be teaching works-righteousness. We also can't say that first we avoid sinning, and then are born of God, that view would suggest that human works cause us to be born of God. And saying that first we show great love for God, and then he causes us to be born again. No, it is clear that practicing righteousness, avoiding sin, and loving are all the consequences or results of the new birth followed by regeneration.

 

[Rowan]

Funny you should put it that way. I was 100% free-willer when God saved me. I was gifted with a passion for reading the Bible. And the more I read it, the more convinced I became that free-willism is wrong. Perhaps if you put away your preconceptions about free will vs. robots (no third option) and prayed and went back and studied the Bible again, you'd see things differently.

I'm glad to hear that you love studying your Bible. Once again Your being convinced that man doesn't have a free will when it comes to salvation is your opinion. Suggesting that I need to pray and go and study my Bible so that I would believe a lie is irrehensible. Sharing your opinion is fine but that doesn't mean I'm going to buy into them.

 

[Rowan]

If we say that before we are born again we must practice righteousness, we would be teaching works-righteousness. We also can't say that first we avoid sinning, and then are born of God, that view would suggest that human works cause us to be born of God. And saying that first we show great love for God, and then he causes us to be born again. No, it is clear that practicing righteousness, avoiding sin, and loving are all the consequences or results of the new birth followed by regeneration.

That's what I'm talking about

 

[brightfame52]

I guess Jesus name doesn’t need to be mentioned to be saved . See Acts 4:12.

He exclusively died for His Sheep, it doesnt have to specifically say it every time, Christ said it specifically in Jn 10, that's the foundation.

 

[brightfame52]

Conversion occurs when sinners turn to God in repentance and faith for salvation. After salvation comes regeneration. The Bible demonstrate that regeneration comes after faith.

regeneration brings conversion, conversion is the fruit and effect of regeneration

 

[brightfame52]

If we say that before we are born again we must practice righteousness, we would be teaching works-righteousness. We also can't say that first we avoid sinning, and then are born of God, that view would suggest that human works cause us to be born of God. And saying that first we show great love for God, and then he causes us to be born again. No, it is clear that practicing righteousness, avoiding sin, and loving are all the consequences or results of the new birth followed by regeneration.

Is practising righteousness you preaching a false gospel ?