I see plenty of mention of Gentiles,,,but you never reply to my specific verses....
you carry on with your tirades instead. By tirade I mean paragraphs with no breaks which are pretty much unreadable.
No reply to my post but just carrying on with your ideology.
So it makes posting pretty useless.
Abraham was going to be the Father of many nations.
Father of NATIONS...
Not the Jews that lived in them.
"Nations" does not mean Gentiles. Gentiles were already being born from the families of Japheth and Ham.
And at the time the word "nations" was used at the time of Abraham it didn't mean Gentiles either. Non-Hebrews cannot come from two Hebrew parents. It's impossible for two German parents to birth a Japanese child, right? So, let's look at the text of Scripture. Oh, wait. You don't respect Scripture. The only place where the New Covenant is mentioned in the Hebrew Scripture (Old Testament) is found in Jeremiah 31:31-34. But you want to add Gentiles in the New Covenant when there is no mention of Gentiles in the text. But that's not good enough what Scripture says. You'll add Gentiles to the text even when there's no mention of Gentiles in order to support your false narrative.
31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That
I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and
with the house of Judah:
Jeremiah 31:31.
I don't see "Gentiles" mentioned in this verse, do you?
How about this verse?
33 But
this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be
their God,
And
they shall be my people.
Jeremiah 31:33.
It doesn't bother your conscience that you deliberately add to the Bible just as Adam and the woman did. Well, they added to God's Word - something you're doing - and they were found out to be liars, too.
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it,
neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Genesis 3:3.
6 Add thou not unto his words,
Lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Proverbs 30:6.
God declares those that add to His word are LIARS.
But again, if you won't respect God's Word in Jeremiah 31:31-34 neither will you respect His word anywhere else in the text. You just add to God's Word things not in the text which is what you've done by adding Gentiles to the New Covenant prophecy of Jeremiah.
But no Gentiles are in this covenant.
And neither can you say, "Jesus added Gentiles at the last Passover."
That's not true either. There were twelve Jewish men at this Passover meal when He took the bread and the wine and established the New Covenant "for you" (twelve disciples representing the twelve tribes of Israel) Jeremiah said was between God and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes) and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes.)
The New Covenant is for EVERYONE...not just the Jews.
Nope. The text of Scripture says otherwise. You're trying to add to the Bible.
There are no Gentiles named or mentioned in Jeremiah's scope of who the New Covenant parties are.
Baptism is for EVERYONE that believes.
It takes the place of the sign of circumcision in the Mosaic Covenant.
The new sign is baptism....and the Apostles baptized those that came to believe
AND THEY WERE NOT ALL JEWS.
Peter contradicts you. It's not the washing of the flesh, but of the conscience, something only the Holy Spirit of Promise can do when someone is born-again:
21 The like figure whereunto even
baptism doth also now save us (
not the putting away of the filth of the flesh,
but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
1 Peter 3:21.
Water baptism is nothing. But Spirit baptism is where true conversion occurs. And no one chooses Christ. There is no such thing as "accept Jesus into your heart" because NO ONE can tell where the wind is blowing, where it comes from and where it is going. No one. Not Nicodemus, and not you.
You can't step into a pool and say, "Jesus, come into my heart and save me." You can't self-baptize. There needs to be a baptizer, and that Baptizer is God Himself:
18 But now hath
God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
1 Corinthians 12:18.
And nowhere does it say in Scripture water baptism takes the place of circumcision. You read that is a book or some false teacher told you that. There is no Scripture that says "baptism takes the place of circumcision. First, circumcision was never given to Gentiles. It was required of Abraham by God as a sign of that covenant God placed him in. Abraham may have been awake when God promised him certain things, but Abraham was asleep when God ordained His Promises:
7 And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
8 And he said, Lord GOD, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?
9 And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.
10 And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not.
11 And when the fowls came down upon the carcases, Abram drove them away.
12
And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him. Genesis 15:7–12.
18
In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,
21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.
Genesis 15:18–21.
You believe in a weird theology J.
You pay no attention to Romans 1 and 2 which I've posted to you and to which you did not reply.
It should be obvious to you that Saul was writing to Jews and Jewish Christians at Rome.
So if I post something to you and instead of answering you just continue with YOUR ideas...
this is called speaking past each other.
It's a "conversation" that will bring to no good fruit.
It gets wearisome repeating myself to those who add to the Bible or whose eyes and mind are closed and regurgitate what's written in Gentile theology books. Don't you ever think for yourself? You've already proved to me that you add to the Bible things not in the Scripture.
I have asked for over a year for members to post the Scripture of Gentiles in the Abraham Covenant where it is described in the text in chapters 12, 15, and 17, but no one can show me where Gentiles are named or mentioned in Abraham's covenant.
Nor can anyone post the Scripture of Gentiles in the Mosaic Covenant or where the high priest offers sacrifice for the sins of Gentiles.
Nor has anyone posted the naming or mentioning of Gentiles in the New Covenant prophecy of Jeremiah in chapter 31:31-34.
Instead, they will cite "families of the earth" or "nations" as proof of Gentiles being mentioned. But I ask in response whether it is possible for two Hebrew parents (Abraham and Sarah) giving birth to a non-Hebrew Gentile (Isaac.)
They want to completely ignore the text as you do that says, "out of thee" (Abraham - Gen. 17:7), or "between me and you and your seed after thee" (Abraham - Gen. 17:10), or "shall be of her" (Gen. 17:16.)
Again, it is impossible for two Hebrew parents to birth a non-Hebrew child. But instead of looking at the text which destroys their theology they ignore it. Their opinions are more important and carry more weight than Scripture.
It's like "conversing" with a wall.
