An Article on free will

[TomL]

You did not say i deny God enables faith? If I did, where?? Quote me

You have stated God gives faith

they do not mean the same thing

 

[TomL]

Define your terms.

Typical dodge. Its your view which is asked for

Stop diverting

you have been asked to explain how God gives/gifts faith for days

How does he gift faith?

Does he transfer, instill, infuse it?

Can it be refused?

Answer the questions you have been avoiding, then I will answer your question.

Instill was defined, you denied he infuses it, so what is left ?

transfer?

Do you really want poster to believe you do not know the meaning of transfer

Nope you are dodging

 

[civic]

Deny what

Enable?

transfer, instill, infuse

yep !

 

[civic]

Typical dodge. Its your view which is asked for

Stop diverting

you have been asked to explain how God gives/gifts faith for days

How does he gift faith?

Does he transfer, instill, infuse it?

Can it be refused?

Answer the questions you have been avoiding, then I will answer your question.

Instill was defined, you denied he infuses it, so what is left ?

transfer?

Do you really want poster to believe you do not know the meaning of transfer

Nope you are dodging

a dodge dart leaves quickly.

then comes back as a dodge challenger with a question to divert an answer.

he needs to become a dodge caravan calling for the artillery rofl. needs back-up

 

[TomL]

a dodge dart leaves quickly.

then comes back as a dodge challenger with a question to divert an answer.

he needs to become a dodge caravan calling for the artillery rofl. needs back-up

He does not have it.

He cannot define how he believes God gives faith.

 

[Presby02]

You are too kind. I wouldn't say genius. I'm just one of multitudes of people that have discovered the many pagan ways of the calvinist pagan god, who is not the true God of the Bible. Your total inability to offer any counterargument proves our observations that your god is a pagan god, not the true God of the Bible.

I wouldn't either. LOL No one would.

 

[Presby02]

Typical dodge. Its your view which is asked for

Stop diverting

you have been asked to explain how God gives/gifts faith for days

How does he gift faith?

Does he transfer, instill, infuse it?

Can it be refused?

Answer the questions you have been avoiding, then I will answer your question.

Instill was defined, you denied he infuses it, so what is left ?

transfer?

Do you really want poster to believe you do not know the meaning of transfer

Nope you are dodging

Define your terms

 

[civic]

He does not have it.

He cannot define how he believes God gives faith.

agreed it sounds like magic . but we know faith involves our mind, heart, will, soul.

 

[Presby02]

You have stated God gives faith

they do not mean the same thing

No one said they did.

Now explain how my position is contradictory

 

[Presby02]

Deny what

Enable?

transfer, instill, infuse

Define your terms.

 

[Presby02]

agreed it sounds like magic . but we know faith involves our mind, heart, will, soul.

Who is the creator of all those things?

 

[Presby02]

why would Paul say believers are given love ? joy ? peace ? faith ? patience ? self control ?

unless you do not affirm the fruit of the Spirit is given by God.

next fallacy

Such as faith?

 

[TomL]

Define your terms.

Um you were to support to note what was denied

 

[civic]

Such as faith?

Given to believers , unbelievers cannot have the fruit of the spirit.

End of discussion

Next

 

[TomL]

No one said they did.

Now explain how my position is contradictory

You still have not explained how you believe God gives faith

You have been dodging this for days

this is just another instance of your dodging

Glad you affirmed enabling is not the same as giving

BTW do you have a verse which actually states God gives saving faith?

 

[synergy]

I wouldn't either. LOL No one would.

Nobody would think that the calvinist pagan god is the true God of the Bible.

 

[TomL]

Calvinist theology posits a Thor/Zeus-like god that zaps people. They believe that we should all just Sit Back, be Inert, do Nothing, and Wait for the Zapping.

But he cannot tell us how it occurs

 

[Presby02]

Um you were to support to note what was denied

Define your terms

 

[Presby02]

Nobody would think that the calvinist pagan god is the true God of the Bible.

Nobody would believe the pagan god of Provisionism is the god of the Bible. Man, that's easy. I win

 

[Presby02]

Given to believers , unbelievers cannot have the fruit of the spirit.

End of discussion

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Now we have believers who have no faith?