All Claims of The Son's Deity

We could say that the unitarians are dehumanizing Jesus.

At a minimum, he obvious doesn't know how to communicate. What he related isn't any different from one another. He does know to relate what he's claiming.

I don't believe he cares for Jesus at all. That is my assessment. It is not like I expect anyone else to have the same assessment though.

I've learned for the decades of battle Unitarians that is very seldom true that you find a Unitarian that actually cares anything at all about Jesus. The words of their lips have no praise for Jesus.

Heb 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
Heb 13:13 Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.
Heb 13:14 For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.
Heb 13:15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.

 
The devils misquote as good as you. I never said "The message was God". I said the The message (logos) was God and that message was in writing and that message was with Jesus. Messages do not become living creatures.
You said "The Message (logos) was God".

So when will you tell us more about your God which you call "The Message (logos)". Do you pray to The Message (logos)? How does your Church worship The Message (logos)? Do you sing praises to The Message (logos)? Does everyone at your church prostrate themselves towards The Message (logos)? Tell us about this God of yours called The Message (logos).
 
You said "The Message (logos) was God".

So when will you tell us more about your God which you call "The Message (logos)". Do you pray to The Message (logos)? How does your Church worship The Message (logos)? Do you sing praises to The Message (logos)? Does everyone at your church prostrate themselves towards The Message (logos)? Tell us about this God of yours called The Message (logos).
You're continuing to twist and misquote by taking my words out of context. The devils do the same. You're in good company.

The logos in John 1 is the expression of God and His communication of Himself just as a "word" is an outward expression of a person's thoughts. In this case that communication (His words) are an "it" from God. Jesus is not in the picture.
 
You're continuing to twist and misquote by taking my words out of context. The devils do the same. You're in good company.

The logos in John 1 is the expression of God and His communication of Himself just as a "word" is an outward expression of a person's thoughts. In this case that communication (His words) are an "it" from God. Jesus is not in the picture.
So you wish to backtrack on having said "The Message (logos) was God". Heretics always backtrack when their false statements have been exposed as heresies.

You're now going even further away from what John wrote which was "The Word was God" in John 1:1. You're going deeper and deeper into your cesspool stench of heresies.
 
So you wish to backtrack on having said "The Message (logos) was God". Heretics alway backtrack when their false statements have been exposed as heresies.

You're now gone even further away from what John wrote which was "The Word was God" in John 1:1. You're going deeper and deeper into your cesspool stench of heresies.
Truth can only agree with Truth

Lies are always morphing and adapting in order to prevent being EXPOSED as a LIE

Therefore the Holy Spirit Says: "no lie is of the Truth"
 
So you wish to backtrack on having said "The Message (logos) was God". Heretics always backtrack when their false statements have been exposed as heresies.

You're now going even further away from what John wrote which was "The Word was God" in John 1:1. You're going deeper and deeper into your cesspool stench of heresies.
Not backtracking. You are just taking my words out of context which is deception. Nothing more.
 
Not backtracking. You are just taking my words out of context which is deception. Nothing more.
So you continue to promote your view that "The Message (logos) was God".

So then don't be shy about telling us more about your God which you call "The Message (logos)". Do you pray to The Message (logos)? How does your Church worship The Message (logos)? Do you sing praises to The Message (logos)? Does everyone at your church prostrate themselves towards The Message (logos)? Tell us about this God of yours called The Message (logos).
 
So you continue to promote your view that "The Message (logos) was God".

So then don't be shy about telling us more about your God which you call "The Message (logos)". Do you pray to The Message (logos)? How does your Church worship The Message (logos)? Do you sing praises to The Message (logos)? Does everyone at your church prostrate themselves towards The Message (logos)? Tell us about this God of yours called The Message (logos).
No you continue to promote your view that I only said "The Message (logos) was God". What I said was "The message (logos) was God and that message was in writing and that message was with Jesus. Messages do not become living creatures."

And even that was probably a follow up to something we were talking about that you have also left out of the context. It's just evil what you do. Nothing more.
 
No you continue to promote your view that I only said "The Message (logos) was God". What I said was "The message (logos) was God and that message was in writing and that message was with Jesus. Messages do not become living creatures."

And even that was probably a follow up to something we were talking about that you have also left out of the context. It's just evil what you do. Nothing more.
So you're saying that "The message (logos) was God and that message was in writing and that message was with Jesus.".

So then please tell us more about your God which you call The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus. Do you pray to The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus? How does your Church worship The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus? Do you sing praises to The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus? Does everyone at your church prostrate themselves towards The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus? Tell us about this God of yours called The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus.
 
So you're saying that "The message (logos) was God and that message was in writing and that message was with Jesus.".

So then please tell us more about your God which you call The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus. Do you pray to The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus? How does your Church worship The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus? Do you sing praises to The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus? Does everyone at your church prostrate themselves towards The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus? Tell us about this God of yours called The Message (logos) that was in writing and was with Jesus.
It's not had to understand if you have gotten past the third grade. You also keep leaving out of the context the part when I said "words are not living creatures."

The logos is the expression of God and is His communication of Himself just as a "word" is an outward expression of a person's thoughts.

I shortened my statement from "the logos is the expression of God" to "the message (logos)" in the context of separating Jesus from God which was probably the conversation I had with somebody else and you picked up on just a few words that you pulled out of context and then you misquote me and accuse me of saying it. I gotta say it again. This is the same work of how the devil himself works.
 
It's not had to understand if you have gotten past the third grade. You also keep leaving out of the context the part when I said "words are not living creatures."

The logos is the expression of God and is His communication of Himself just as a "word" is an outward expression of a person's thoughts.

I shortened my statement from "the logos is the expression of God" to "the message (logos)" in the context of separating Jesus from God which was probably the conversation I had with somebody else and you picked up on just a few words that you pulled out of context and then you misquote me and accuse me of saying it. I gotta say it again. This is the same work of how the devil himself works.
Do you believe John when he said that "the Word was God" in John 1:1? Yes or No?

If yes then please proceed to tell us how you worship the Word as God.

If no then you are exposed as a Heretic.
 
Do you believe John when he said that "the Word was God" in John 1:1? Yes or No?

If yes then please proceed to tell us how you worship the Word as God.

If no then you are exposed as a Heretic.
The Word [logos] is the expression of God and is His communication of Himself just as a "word" is an outward expression of a person's thoughts.
 
The Word [logos] is the expression of God and is His communication of Himself just as a "word" is an outward expression of a person's thoughts.
I take that as a No to my question of whether or not you believe "the Word was God" (John 1:1). You have just exposed yourself as being a Heretic. I highly advise you that you start believing the Bible, starting with John 1:1, now that you can.
 
I take that as a No to my question of whether or not you believe "the Word was God" (John 1:1). You have just exposed yourself as being a Heretic. I highly advise you that you start believing the Bible, starting with John 1:1, now that you can.
I find myself in good company since they called the Apostles, Old Testament Prophets, and Jesus Christ himself a heretic.
 

There's no verse anywhere that says Jesus laid aside his deity...

How do you understand Philippians 2:6-7, Jesus though in the form of God emptied Himself and take the form of a servant in the likeness of man.
And Jesus never taught the trinity. In fact, nobody ever taught the trinity. If there is a trinity then why not just come out and say it? Why do we have to jump all over the Bible cutting and pasting pieces of words that are scattered all over the Bible? Why not just teach it? I know enough about how the Bible is written in the New Testament and in the Gospels to know if there was a trinity it would have been taught. The Gospels would have clearly said...
If Jesus did not taught the Trinity, there must be no Trinitarian today. The word "Trinity" cannot be found in the Bible, same as the Bible cannot be found.
Verily, verily I say unto you that I am Jesus and I'm also God.
The Epistles would have writings like...

Yay, I Paul do testify that Jesus who is God came down from heaven to be a man for us. And we do know and testify that this same Jesus who you crucified is God. And so let us bow our knee to the one and only true God-Man Jesus Christ.

And yet there's nothing like that anywhere. Not in the Old or New Testament. Not even one complete verse like that.
Yes, and there also not a single verse that say "Jesus is not God". But many verses proves that Jesus is God. The Father Himself proves that Jesus is God. What Arians do? Deny the Father's words or quote paraphrase translations from the thoughts of the translators and not from the original Bible words.(Hebrew or Greek)
 


If Jesus did not taught the Trinity, there must be no Trinitarian today. The word "Trinity" cannot be found in the Bible, same as the Bible cannot be found.

Yes, and there also not a single verse that say "Jesus is not God". But many verses proves that Jesus is God. The Father Himself proves that Jesus is God. What Arians do? Deny the Father's words or quote paraphrase translations from the thoughts of the translators and not from the original Bible words.(Hebrew or Greek)
1.) The word Bible is in the Scriptures mentioned as scrolls and scripts.

2.) In this life we speak about what is. Not what is not. I can say I'm a man. I should not have to say what I'm not. That I'm a man, but not a horse, or a cow, or a tree, or a truck, etc.

3.) Philippians says Jesus emptied Himself and took the form of a servant in the likeness of man. It does not say he emptied himself of his Godhood.
 
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