All Claims of The Son's Deity

[101G]

There's no verse anywhere that says Jesus laid aside his deity...

Hebrews 2:9 "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."

now commonsense to understand that the Lord Jesus Almighty God laid aside his deity. Knowing this, that there are only three entities. 1. God 2. angels and 3. man. if God, (Jesus) was made lower than the angels, then he God the Lord Jesus had to be HIGHER than the angels whom he was made LOWER than.

UNDERSTAND? if not just ask. 101G is here to assist you in clear understanding.

101G.

 

[101G]

To all,
to my unitarian Brothers in Christ. understand the implications of Hebrews 2:9 . if the Lord Jesus was just a man, an agent of God, how is a MAN greater than the angels? especially in POWER and MIGHT. for the scriptures clearly states, 2 Peter 2:11 "Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord."

so, if Jesus was Just a Man, (as you unitarian have said), then please tell us how he, Jesus as a man was made LOWER than the angels?

any unitarian Brother can reply with the answer please. please provide book, chapter, and verse to your answer.

101G.

 

[Peterlag]

Hebrews 2:9 "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."

now commonsense to understand that the Lord Jesus Almighty God laid aside his deity. Knowing this, that there are only three entities. 1. God 2. angels and 3. man. if God, (Jesus) was made lower than the angels, then he God the Lord Jesus had to be HIGHER than the angels whom he was made LOWER than.

UNDERSTAND? if not just ask. 101G is here to assist you in clear understanding.

101G.

Commonsense? You mean your own human reasoning, imagination, speculation and assumptions as you pick one verse here, and another verse there, a hint here, and a clue there, and then you construct your "own God" which is the product of your own human thinking.

 

[Peterlag]

A Trinity person asked...

Please explain how the Word that became flesh (Jesus) was with God and was God in the beginning before Christ was born? And how could Jesus have looked forward to the glory he had BEFORE becoming flesh?

And then someone replied with this...

Jesus did not physically exist before his birth, but rather was foreordained according to 1 Peter 1:20, which explains the “pre-existence” verses. God’s Word “Logos” in John 1:1 refers to God’s plan, wisdom, and intention. NOT a “second person” of the doctrine of men’s Trinity. That “Word” became flesh when Jesus was born and that was in John 1:14.

The “Word” was with God in the beginning because God’s plan and purpose for salvation was with Him from the start. But not as a literal person yet. So in John 17:5, when Jesus says he had glory with God before the world began, he’s not talking about remembering a past life. He’s asking the Father to now give him the glory that was planned for him all along.

Just like believers are said to be chosen “before the foundation of the world” (Ephesians 1:4), even though we didn’t exist yet. It’s about destiny, not preexistence. Jesus is God’s human Messiah, born at a specific time (Luke 1:35), not an eternal being who became a man. The beauty is that God’s plan - His Word - became a real person, when the precious Son was born!