All Claims of The Son's Deity
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civic
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Same creation, same Creator, same beginning
Yep.
And new revelation -
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
This quote of John 17:3 reminds me of the one-verse unitarianism. For the unitarianist, this verse overrules all passages that show the ambiguity of Jesus with pre-existence in divine form.
The odd thing is that biblical facts against the unitarian heresy are not persuasive to unitarians. John 17:5 has no persuasive effect against the Unitarian heresy. Jewish beliefs in the Two Powers of Heaven is not persuasive against the Unitarian heresy. Runningman tried to argue on passages that challenge the unitarian view. Other unitarianists just cut and paste with no effective arguments. I did look at passages they propose but these do not overcome the broad testimony of scripture nor resolve encounters of Yahweh interacting with Yahweh in the OT.
Peterlag
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Really... no connection. One is the beginning of the creation. And the other is the beginning of Jesus Christ.
You are impossible
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Who is this child that is born ?
And how can a child (a human) born here on this Earth called Mighty God and Everlasting Father ?
What is Isiah prophesying about?
Where in Scripture is this prophecy fulfilled ?
Show me.
