praise_yeshua
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Prove Jesus chose you. Go for it.
I know from the Scriptures that God chose Christ. Show me where you're anywhere?
Acts 10 does not support calvinism
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Prove Jesus chose you. Go for it.
I know from the Scriptures that God chose Christ. Show me where you're anywhere?
brightfame52
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Cornelius in Acts 10 was a regenerate man since he had the fear of the Lord, he was also be considered wise, the beginning of wisdom, which no man has by nature
Prov 1:7
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Job 28:28
And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.
Ps 111:10
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
Prov 15:33
The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.
Cornelius proves regeneration and a new heart is preparatory to hearing and believing the Gospel
God sends the Gospel as a word of Salvation to them that fear Him Acts 13:26
Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.
Its not sent to the spiritually dead in sin !
Prov 1:7
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Job 28:28
And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.
Ps 111:10
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
Prov 15:33
The fear of the Lord is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.
Cornelius proves regeneration and a new heart is preparatory to hearing and believing the Gospel
God sends the Gospel as a word of Salvation to them that fear Him Acts 13:26
Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.
Its not sent to the spiritually dead in sin !
It is so typical of those holding to Calvinism or Reformed Theology to think that God is incapable of communicating with the unregenerate. It really is a slap in the face to God.
Besides, regeneration is a key feature of the New Covenant. No such action by the Holy Spirit was ever spoken of before the cross of Jesus Christ Nevertheless, the is the entire remnant of the OT saints which were saved but had not been regenerated.
brightfame52
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This is how God views the uregenerate Rom 3:9-19
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
No, this is not about the unregenerate, per se. In the section of Romans 1:18-3:20 Paul is establishing the impotence of the Law as a way of salvation. In the first passage of that section, Romans 1:18-32, Paul is laying out the sinfulness of the Gentiles. In the second passage, Romans 2:1-3:8, Paul is speaking of the sinfulness of the Jews. In the last passage, Romans 3:9-20, Paul is presenting the universal sinfulness and hopelessness under law. He introduces that section with the question, "What then? Are we any better off?" His answer is "Not at all". We can discuss who the "we" is that Paul is referring to.
Without going into any detail, I think it should be clear that Paul is not distinguishing between the regenerate and the unregenerate. Looking back to 3:1-2, Paul affirms that Jews have a great advantage over the Gentiles, especially in the possession of theoraclles of God. Just so no one will misunderstand, Paul asks this question in v. 9 so that he can reemphasize the point made in chapter 2. That is, no matter what privileges the Jews may have enjoyed in relation to their unique role as the people through whom the Messiah would come, in reference to sin and judgment and their standing before God, they have no advantage whatsoever.
Paul's next sentence shows that this the main point: "we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin". He then proceeds to lay out, verses 10-18, quoting from several different OT passages, what can be attributed to the Jews. He closes that Passage of Romans, 1:18-3:20, with the statement, "For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin".
He then launches into his next general section, Romans 3:21-5:21, presenting the all-sufficiency of Grace as the way of salvation.
brightfame52
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That passage shows us how helplessly wicked man is by nature before God, under the power of sin Rom 3:9
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
The word under is the greek word ὑπό a prep that means:
hypó (a preposition) – properly, under, often meaning "under authority" of someone working directly as a subordinate (under someone/something else).
to be under, i. e. subject to the power of, any person or thing,
We by nature are under te power of sin and darkness. Col 1 13
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
civic
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Yet you were a child of wrath just like the rest. So much for your unbiblical opinion
brightfame52
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Every one is depraved by nature and worthy of wrath, thats what Rom 3:9-19 shows . Thats why one must be born again
First of all, being depraved by nature does not make one worthy of wrath. We are not condemned for what we are by nature. We are condemned for what we do., even if that is because of what we are by nature. The question is not if everyone is depraved, the question is why. Reformed Theology says that God caused it. I reject that. If you are or were depraved, that is tied strictly around your neck. Do not blame God for it.
Right on! This is what I tell our calvinists comrades:
It is not nature that sins, it is us as a person who sins. God did not create a sinful nature. He is not a pagan god that creates sinful things. Our human nature came straight from God. God does not produce sinful anything, let alone a sin nature. Only pagan gods produce sinful things. It is us, as persons, who sin and degrade ourselves. Granted, our bodies do decay and die but that is a consequence of Adam's sin and not because God is in the business of creating sinful nature.
So stop being a Platonist.
If human nature is sinful then what does that make Jesus who took up the very same human nature we all have?
Newsflash! It's not human nature that sins. People sin
brightfame52
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That is the eisegesis of Reform Theology.
So a man as an infant deserves wrath for being born? What nonsense is that all about?
civic
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Talk about a false god. Yikes
A pagan god that wants to vent his wrath unto infants who all they did was to be born.
civic
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could you imagine as a Father sitting at the dinner table talking about how such a god hates infants in such a way as to eternally condemn and torment them. Do you think any child in their right mind would follow the god and faith of their parents when they are old enough to make a decision.
civic
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nope he was not regenerate until Peter came to his house. that was 3 days after the verses you quoted.
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