John 1 does not support Calvinism

[synergy]

Are you just trying to be difficult? The moment we receive a new heart, it is the beginning of a new life. The new heart will grow from immature to mature, from weak to strong.


Doug

I nailed him on that exact same point. I think we're just wasting our time here with edited like @Presby02 . I've got better things to do.

 

[Presby02]

Are you just trying to be difficult? The moment we receive a new heart, it is the beginning of a new life. The new heart will grow from immature to mature, from weak to strong.


Doug

Doug, you are making claims you obviously cannot back up. And you pile on another. I am not bound by your speculation ound by your presuppositions. The giving of the new heart is not a process.

 

[TibiasDad]

Nothing about the new heart in those texts Doug. Your question begging

Is the new heart perfect?

Doug

 

[Presby02]

I nailed him on that exact same point. I think we're just wasting our time here with imbeciles like @Presby02 . I've got better things to do.

Imbecile? Ad hom attacks are a sure sign of defeat. You are dismissed.

 

[Presby02]

Is the new heart perfect?

Doug

Nope. No one said it was did they?

 

[TibiasDad]

Doug, you are making claims you obviously cannot back up. And you pile on another. I am not bound by your speculation ound by your presuppositions. The giving of the new heart is not a process.

I didn’t say it was a process, so stop creating straw men to attack! The new heart is the new life we now have. You either have life or you don’t! But the new heart/life is not perfect, it needs to grow, to mature.

Doug

 

[civic]

I didn’t say it was a process, so stop creating straw men to attack! The new heart is the new life we now have. You either have life or you don’t! But the new heart/life is not perfect, it needs to grow, to mature.

Doug

Yes new birth is new life, adoption as sons, becoming a child of God

 

[TibiasDad]

Nope. No one said it was did they?

The scriptures I posted countered your assertion that the new heart was mature! The word for perfect is the same word for mature. The heart, though new, is not perfect/mature, but needs to grow.


Doug

 

[Presby02]

I didn’t say it was a process, so stop creating straw men to attack! The new heart is the new life we now have. You either have life or you don’t! But the new heart/life is not perfect, it needs to grow, to mature.

Doug

No one said it was perfect. If so, who? I agree we are a new creation that needs to grow to Spiritual maturity. If I misunderstood, I apologize. You appeared to say the giving of the new heart was a process. You can calm down now.

 

[Presby02]

Yes new birth is new life, adoption as sons, becoming a child of God

Agreed

 

[TibiasDad]

No one said it was perfect. If so, who? I agree we are a new creation that needs to grow to Spiritual maturity. If I misunderstood, I apologize. You appeared to say the giving of the new heart was a process. You can calm down now.

I’m always perfectly calm; it’s one of the benefits of being right!


Doug

 

[Presby02]

I’m always perfectly calm; it’s one of the benefits of being right!


Doug

Then how would you know?

 

[TibiasDad]

Then how would you know?

How would I know what?

Doug