Your Views on The Trinity

[DavidTree]

no you are in ERROR, just read the very next verse, Rev 4:3 "And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald".

D.T. ..... HOW MANY IS "HE?" ... thank you. how IGNORANT some are.

101G.

There is more then 'one' he on the Throne

Please examine the definitive scripture evidence posted by @Johann in post #1,295

Remember that your own ignorance is always right = "in your own eyes/understanding"

Yet we who seek Truth do not lean on our own understanding but yield to "every word of Elohim"

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Yes and Amen !!!

Yes indeed GOD , HIS WORD , HIS WORDS are always TRUTH .
So go ahead and ask me why i never remarried but have remained single for over twenty years .
There is a reason i ask this and its so that we all begin afresh and anew to actually
and truly examine ourselves . But feel free to ask me why .

 

[101G]

We have to be careful with the 'single entity' designation to Elohim.

LISTEN, Oh those who are IGNORANT of God's Holy Word. listen to the desigination of God's plurality.
Deut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

the term "ONE", H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

Ordinal "FIRST", yes, the EQUAL SHARE that was to come. this why and how 101G know it was only one person AT Genesis 1:26 and 27 when God made man male and female ... Just as the Lord Jesus said, Matt 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female".

the he is the Ordinal "FIRST" one person. understand Ordinal Designation, just as the defination above clearly states.

the Ordinal Designations of "FIRST" and "LAST", clearly shows God's plurality as Father/CREATOR and MAKER, and Son/REDEEMER and SAVIOUR.

man this is too easy ...

101G.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Yes indeed GOD , HIS WORD , HIS WORDS are always TRUTH .
So go ahead and ask me why i never remarried but have remained single for over twenty years .
There is a reason i ask this and its so that we all begin afresh and anew to actually
and truly examine ourselves . But feel free to ask me why .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[DavidTree]

LISTEN, Oh those who are IGNORANT of God's Holy Word. listen to the desigination of God's plurality.
Deut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

the term "ONE", H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

Ordinal "FIRST", yes, the EQUAL SHARE that was to come. this why and how 101G know it was only one person AT Genesis 1:26 and 27 when God made man male and female ... Just as the Lord Jesus said, Matt 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female".

the he is the Ordinal "FIRST" one person. understand Ordinal Designation, just as the defination above clearly states.

the Ordinal Designations of "FIRST" and "LAST", clearly shows God's plurality as Father/CREATOR and MAKER, and Son/REDEEMER and SAVIOUR.

man this is too easy ...

101G.

Listen to the Truth oh great ignorant 'one'(101G)

The Hebrew word for 'one' in the Shema is 'Echad'

Echad means a 'Oness' of more then a single entity that 'together' are 'one'

The LORD expressed this fact in His creating male and female for the purpose of marriage and pro-creation.

Mark 10:6 - "from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’
‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’;
so then they are no longer two, but one flesh.
Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

 

[Marvelloustime]

Yes indeed GOD , HIS WORD , HIS WORDS are always TRUTH .
So go ahead and ask me why i never remarried but have remained single for over twenty years .
There is a reason i ask this and its so that we all begin afresh and anew to actually
and truly examine ourselves . But feel free to ask me why .

@TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY

 

[MTMattie]

Matthew 19:28 (ESV)
"Jesus said to them, 'Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit (καθίσει, kathisei) on his glorious throne (θρόνου, thronou), you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.'"


Matthew 25:31 (ESV)
"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit (καθίσει, kathisei) on his glorious throne."


Mark 16:19 (ESV)
"So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down (ἐκάθισεν, ekathisen) at the right hand of God."


Hebrews 1:3 (ESV)
"After making purification for sins, he sat down (ἐκάθισεν, ekathisen) at the right hand of the Majesty on high."


Revelation 3:21 (ESV)
"The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit (καθίσειν, kathisein) with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down (ἐκάθισα, ekathisa) with my Father on his throne."

This may be the most definitive verses of those posted.
REV 3 21 ........... as I also conquered and sat down (ἐκάθισα, ekathisa) with my Father on his throne."Rev 3:21

Greek Verbs:

καθίσειν (kathisein) - Aorist Active Infinitive - "to sit"

ἐκάθισα (ekathisa) - Aorist Active Indicative, 1st Person Singular - "sat down"



Revelation 5:6 (ESV)
"And between the throne (θρόνου, thronou) and the four living creatures and among the elders I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain..."

While this verse depicts the Lamb standing, the context is the throne room of God, where the Lamb (Jesus) is identified as central to the throne's authority.


Revelation 22:1 (ESV)
"Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne (θρόνου, thronou) of God and of the Lamb."



These verses collectively show that Jesus is depicted as sitting on a throne in several contexts:

In the eschatological future (Matthew 19:28, 25:31).

At the right hand of God following His ascension (Mark 16:19, Hebrews 1:3).

Sharing the throne of God as both the victorious Lamb and the reigning King (Revelation 3:21, 22:1).

He is causing confusion.

J.

 

[MTMattie]

LISTEN, Oh those who are IGNORANT of God's Holy Word. listen to the desigination of God's plurality.
Deut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

the term "ONE", H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

Ordinal "FIRST", yes, the EQUAL SHARE that was to come. this why and how 101G know it was only one person AT Genesis 1:26 and 27 when God made man male and female ... Just as the Lord Jesus said, Matt 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female".

You mean the male and female who became husband and wife Gen 2:24 And as such became one flesh???????????????????????

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Bet you dont understand that one either.....................................

And was reconfirmed

Matt 19:5 For this reason, a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”

Also in Mark 10 and Eph 5 and Matt 19.

the he is the Ordinal "FIRST" one person. understand Ordinal Designation, just as the defination above clearly states.

the Ordinal Designations of "FIRST" and "LAST", clearly shows God's plurality as Father/CREATOR and MAKER, and Son/REDEEMER and SAVIOUR.

man this is too easy ...

101G.

 

[101G]

Listen to the Truth oh great ignorant 'one'(101G)

The Hebrew word for 'one' in the Shema is 'Echad'

Echad means a 'Oness' of more then a single entity that 'together' are 'one'

The LORD expressed this fact in His creating male and female for the purpose of marriage and pro-creation.

Mark 10:6 - "from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’
‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’;
so then they are no longer two, but one flesh.
Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

next
101G

 

[101G]

You mean the male and female who became husband and wife Gen 2:24 And as such became one flesh???????????????????????

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Bet you dont understand that one either.....................................

And was reconfirmed

Matt 19:5 For this reason, a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”

Also in Mark 10 and Eph 5 and Matt 19.

oh boy, next

101G

 

[Peterlag]

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

A mediator is the third party through whom agreement is reached between two parties previously in conflict with each other. Christ is the mediator of the new covenant, the one whose action makes the covenant possible, and who is the guarantor of its execution. Christ Jesus is the one functioning as a go between, in order to initiate a relationship with us because he is literally connected to both sides, and therefore he is set between God and us. It's our big brother Christ Jesus, who is the one who is acting as a guarantee—to secure something that otherwise would not be obtained. Christ is the better covenant, the new covenant, guaranteeing its terms for the Christian people before the almighty God. Christ Jesus is producing peace for the salvation of his Church and has made a promise of assurance that the new covenant will perform satisfactorily because he is the one who is set between God and us.

 

[MTMattie]

Listen to the Truth oh great ignorant 'one'(101G)

The Hebrew word for 'one' in the Shema is 'Echad'

Echad means a 'Oness' of more then a single entity that 'together' are 'one'

Isn't it odd that so many will claim words they twist in the four corners of the Holy Book and then when presented with a truth
simply cannot comprehend?

The LORD expressed this fact in His creating male and female for the purpose of marriage and pro-creation.

Mark 10:6 - "from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’
‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’;
so then they are no longer two, but one flesh.
Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

 

[Peterlag]

Hebrews 9:24
For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

The intercessor must have standing before God, just as defense attorneys must have standing before the court where they are pleading. Christ Jesus intercedes by placing his incorruptible life at the service of the Christian people to help in the form of a supporter. Christ has undertaken to see to it that this new covenant will not go unfulfilled since this function of the intercessor is related to the divine promise that is in the relation between God's sworn oath and us. Since God is one of the parties involved in the covenant and since there is no higher court that God could represent His covenant in relation to us; the only possible solution is to have Christ vouch for God’s oath to the new covenant. Since we are the other party involved in the covenant and since God has made His Son our brother and Lord, by way of the spirit of Christ within us; the only possible solution is to have Christ vouch for us in the relationship of this new covenant.

 

[DavidTree]

Isn't it odd that so many will claim words they twist in the four corners of the Holy Book and then when presented with a truth
simply cannot comprehend?

Are you referring to my post or to those who argue against Echad Elohim = FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT

 

[MTMattie]

Are you referring to my post or to those who argue against Echad Elohim = FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT

LOL... to no one in particular. But for sure those who argue against Echad Elohim = FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT.

Also the predestination V free-will crowd.

We all read the same scriptures, but even those in agreement in such as the Trinity will often understand differently from each other.

I am a full fledged, card carrying, Trinitaririan. WITH free will.

It would not surprise me at all to find out once we are in eternity that for those who cannot see what another does hails back to Tower of Babel. (Dont ask... that is my opinion and I am not going there)

 

[JLB]

LISTEN, Oh those who are IGNORANT of God's Holy Word. listen to the desigination of God's plurality.
Deut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

the term "ONE", H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

Ordinal "FIRST", yes, the EQUAL SHARE that was to come. this why and how 101G know it was only one person AT Genesis 1:26 and 27 when God made man male and female ... Just as the Lord Jesus said, Matt 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female".

the he is the Ordinal "FIRST" one person. understand Ordinal Designation, just as the defination above clearly states.

the Ordinal Designations of "FIRST" and "LAST", clearly shows God's plurality as Father/CREATOR and MAKER, and Son/REDEEMER and SAVIOUR.

man this is too easy ...

101G.

It’s easy because you reject the scriptural foundation of the Godhead.

For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 1John 5:7


It does not say this one is three.


These three are one; united as one


Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;
Genesis 1:26

 

[101G]

It’s easy because you reject the scriptural foundation of the Godhead.

HOW?

For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. 1John 5:7


It does not say this one is three.

this ONE have three ... "Titles". Oh my.

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;
Genesis 1:26

tell us how did God go from a US and a OUR in Genesis 1:26 and in the VERY, and 101G mean the VERY NEXT verse describe himself as a He and a HIM.... common sense must dictate why US and OUR are used in one verse and in the very next verse HIM and HE. especially when the Creator himself say "HE" a single person made man male and female ..... IN the beginning. common sense have to kick in sometime.

when one realize that God is a plurality in TIME, ....... PLACE, ORDER, and RANK, then they will KNOW why "US", and "OUR" re used. in "TIME", and in "ORDER", in "PLACE", and in "RANK" .... this is just too easy.


101G encourage anyone to look up the term "beginning" in Genesis 1:1 and the term "ONE" in Deuteronomy 6:4. in theses two verses one will see the term "FIRST" which is a. the "TIME", and the "ORDER" of God's plurality, as well as b. his designations in "PLACE", and "RANK". ..... just too easy.

101G.

 

[101G]

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

A mediator is the third party through whom agreement is reached between two parties previously in conflict with each other. Christ is the mediator of the new covenant, the one whose action makes the covenant possible, and who is the guarantor of its execution. Christ Jesus is the one functioning as a go between, in order to initiate a relationship with us because he is literally connected to both sides, and therefore he is set between God and us. It's our big brother Christ Jesus, who is the one who is acting as a guarantee—to secure something that otherwise would not be obtained. Christ is the better covenant, the new covenant, guaranteeing its terms for the Christian people before the almighty God. Christ Jesus is producing peace for the salvation of his Church and has made a promise of assurance that the new covenant will perform satisfactorily because he is the one who is set between God and us.

also @JLB, @MTMattie, @DavidTree, @TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY , Galatians 3:20 "Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one." so, who is the MEDIATOR? answer,
G3316 μεσίτης mesites (me-siy'-tees) n.
1. a go-between.
2. (simply) a spokesman.
3. (by implication) a reconciler (intercessor).
[from G3319]
KJV: mediator
Root(s): G3319

a reconciler (intercessor)? 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

Advocate:
G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
[(not given)]
KJV: advocate, comforter
Root(s): G3844, G2822

2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another). ....... 3. a comforter? yes COMFORTER, the Holy Spirit.
John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;"
Comforter:
G3875 παράκλητος parakletos (pa-ra'-klee-tos) n.
1. (properly) one called near (to give help).
2. an intercessor (one who entreats of behalf of another).
3. a comforter.
[(not given)]
KJV: advocate, comforter
Root(s): G3844, G2822

the advocate of 1 John 2:1 is the comforter of John 14:16 ... WHO IS THE "MEDIATOR" of Galatians 3:20 "Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one."

for those who still in darkness, but to those shine in the LIGHT. this is bible for food.

101G.

 

[DavidTree]

HOW?

this ONE have three ... "Titles". Oh my.

tell us how did God go from a US and a OUR in Genesis 1:26 and in the VERY, and 101G mean the VERY NEXT verse describe himself as a He and a HIM.... common sense must dictate why US and OUR are used in one verse and in the very next verse HIM and HE. especially when the Creator himself say "HE" a single person made man male and female ..... IN the beginning. common sense have to kick in sometime.

when one realize that God is a plurality in TIME, ....... PLACE, ORDER, and RANK, then they will KNOW why "US", and "OUR" re used. in "TIME", and in "ORDER", in "PLACE", and in "RANK" .... this is just too easy.


101G encourage anyone to look up the term "beginning" in Genesis 1:1 and the term "ONE" in Deuteronomy 6:4. in theses two verses one will see the term "FIRST" which is a. the "TIME", and the "ORDER" of God's plurality, as well as b. his designations in "PLACE", and "RANK". ..... just too easy.

101G.

Beyond your capability to SEE and understand.......even though it is spelled out to you.

 

[MTMattie]

HOW?

this ONE have three ... "Titles". Oh my.

tell us how did God go from a US and a OUR in Genesis 1:26 and in the VERY, and 101G mean the VERY NEXT verse describe himself as a He and a HIM.... common sense must dictate why US and OUR are used in one verse and in the very next verse HIM and HE. especially when the Creator himself say "HE" a single person made man male and female ..... IN the beginning. common sense have to kick in sometime.

when one realize that God is a plurality in TIME, ....... PLACE, ORDER, and RANK, then they will KNOW why "US", and "OUR" re used. in "TIME", and in "ORDER", in "PLACE", and in "RANK" .... this is just too easy.


101G encourage anyone to look up the term "beginning" in Genesis 1:1 and the term "ONE" in Deuteronomy 6:4. in theses two verses one will see the term "FIRST" which is a. the "TIME", and the "ORDER" of God's plurality, as well as b. his designations in "PLACE", and "RANK". ..... just too easy.

101G.

How does saying I DO mean you are now one flesh?