Your Views on The Trinity

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

LOL... to no one in particular. But for sure those who argue against Echad Elohim = FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT.

Also the predestination V free-will crowd.

We all read the same scriptures, but even those in agreement in such as the Trinity will often understand differently from each other.

I am a full fledged, card carrying, Trinitaririan. WITH free will.

It would not surprise me at all to find out once we are in eternity that for those who cannot see what another does hails back to Tower of Babel. (Dont ask... that is my opinion and I am not going there)

I noticed you brought up the tower of babel .
So allow me some parting words for all to hear .
Intefaith finding common ground which is of anti christ
is bringing all religoins and all denominations
to merge as one under what all beleive IS GOD
as they build in their all inclusive tower , THEY BELIEVE IS THE WAY TO GOD and REACHES TO HEAVEN .
Talk about a one world langauge all religoins and peoples can buy into .
KNOWN AS THE FALSE LOVE RELIGOIN .
As they holler lets all find common ground .
But forget This occured long ago .
HUMANITY also had FOUND COMMON GROUND as THEY ALL IN UNITY BUILT THE TOWER .
IF GOD so desired HUMANITY TO HAVE THIS COMMON GROUND UNITY AS ONE , WE ARE ONE
THEN why did HE scatter them like a fart in a hurricane . EXACTLY they ALL BEEN DECIEVED into this love broad road
to build in its tower of diverse inclusive stones of untemperered morter
of a love language OF THE WORLD AND NOT GOD . its all a TOTAL deceptoin of anti christ
who has promised them the idea THEY shall attain WORLD PEACE n safety . NOPE , SUDDEN DESRUCTION cometh upon them

 

[JLB]

tell us how did God go from a US and a OUR in Genesis 1:26 and in the VERY, and 101G mean the VERY NEXT verse describe himself as a He and a HIM

Because Jesus the Word of God is male and was speaking and expressing the will of His Father.


Was Eve created in the image of God?

So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Genesis 1:26-27

 

[JLB]

How does saying I DO mean you are now one flesh?

The “one” flesh refers to the child that comes from the union.

The sperm and the egg become one flesh.

 

[JLB]

I noticed you brought up the tower of babel .
So allow me some parting words for all to hear .
Intefaith finding common ground which is of anti christ
is bringing all religoins and all denominations
to merge as one under what all beleive IS GOD
as they build in their all inclusive tower , THEY BELIEVE IS THE WAY TO GOD and REACHES TO HEAVEN .
Talk about a one world langauge all religoins and peoples can buy into .
KNOWN AS THE FALSE LOVE RELIGOIN .
As they holler lets all find common ground .
But forget This occured long ago .
HUMANITY also had FOUND COMMON GROUND as THEY ALL IN UNITY BUILT THE TOWER .
IF GOD so desired HUMANITY TO HAVE THIS COMMON GROUND UNITY AS ONE , WE ARE ONE
THEN why did HE scatter them like a fart in a hurricane . EXACTLY they ALL BEEN DECIEVED into this love broad road
to build in its tower of diverse inclusive stones of untemperered morter
of a love language OF THE WORLD AND NOT GOD . its all a TOTAL deceptoin of anti christ
who has promised them the idea THEY shall attain WORLD PEACE n safety . NOPE , SUDDEN DESRUCTION cometh upon them

Jesus said it this way -

“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; Matthew 10:34-35

 

[MTMattie]

The “one” flesh refers to the child that comes from the union.

The sperm and the egg become one flesh.

AH... so they were pregnant before the I DOs. Yea, that sounds about right to those who cannot discern what was written.

This is the oddest explanation I have ever read.

 

[MTMattie]

Jesus said it this way -

“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; Matthew 10:34-35

Which is exactly what has happened with mans inability to read and discern scripture.

 

[JLB]

AH... so they were pregnant before the I DOs. Yea, that sounds about right to those who cannot discern what was written.

This is the oddest explanation I have ever read.

I never said they were pregnant before the I do’s.


The one flesh refers to the child, not the union between man and woman.


Whether married or not the one flesh refers to the offspring.

Just because there is physical union between man and woman doesn’t necessarily mean there will be one flesh produced from that union.

 

[JLB]

Which is exactly what has happened with mans inability to read and discern scripture.

Did Jesus say He came to bring (world) peace or division between His people and the Devil’s people.


Let’s try it again with another scripture since you don’t seem to believe what Jesus said.


And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.”
Genesis 3:15

 

[MTMattie]

I never said they were pregnant before the I do’s.


The one flesh refers to the child, not the union between man and woman.


Whether married or not the one flesh refers to the offspring.

Just because there is physical union between man and woman doesn’t necessarily mean there will be one flesh produced from that union.

Where is that written.

What is written

And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

IT SAYS THEY SHALL BE ONE FLESH. NOT THEY SHALL PRODUCE ONE FLESH FROM THEIR UNION.

You cannot discern this meaning so what else are you haveing trouble with.

 

[Johann]

How does saying I DO mean you are now one flesh?

Echad.

Lol!

J.

 

[MTMattie]

Did Jesus say He came to bring (world) peace or division between His people and the Devil’s people.


Let’s try it again with another scripture since you don’t seem to believe what Jesus said.


And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.”
Genesis 3:15

Oh Brother....

This has zero or less to do with one flesh.

Unless you have scripture that shows Eve and the Serpent mated....................?

We are/were talking about the meaning of one flesh..... not what Jesus came to do.

The battles between God and Satan are not in this discussion.

Now, I am off to the doctor so figure your reply carefully so I can reply when I am back.... or not

 

[Peterlag]

The life of Jesus, and the subsequent persecution of Christians during the Roman Empire, have come to define what many of us know about early Christianity. The fervent debate, civil strife, and bloody riots as Christianity was coming into being, however, is a side of ancient history rarely described.

Richard E. Rubenstein takes the reader to the streets of fourth-century Rome, when a fateful debate over the divinity of Jesus Christ is being fought. Ruled by a Christian emperor, followers of Jesus no longer fear for the survival of their monotheistic faith. But soon they break into two camps regarding the direction of their worship: Is Jesus the son of God and therefore not the same as God? Or is Jesus precisely God on Earth and therefore equal to Him?

With thorough historical, religious, and social research, Rubenstein vividly recreates one of the most critical moments in the history of religion.

 

[101G]

Beyond your capability to SEE and understand.......even though it is spelled out to you.

GINOLJC, to all.
your ability to see or UNDERSTAND is so blind until it's a shame. the word is written and you have no clue. when 101G asked just a few simple questions you still cannot answer. for the scripture is correct. Matthew 15:6 "And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition."Matthew 15:7 "Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,"Matthew 15:8 "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me."Matthew 15:9 "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Oh so true.

until you or anyone else can answer 101G scripture questions, then you're still in IGNORANCE, and in danger of hell fire with false doctrine of a three person God.

until, and only until you come into knowledge of the TRUTH, you're still in darkness and lost.

101G.

 

[101G]

How does saying I DO mean you are now one flesh?

LOL, LOL, Oh boy, ok, one.... John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." and this scripture, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

MT, is this the same "ONE" person who MADE ALL THING? yes or no. your answer will answer the Lord Jesus statement, Matthew 15:7 "Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,"Matthew 15:8 "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me."

your answer MT.
101G.

 

[101G]

Because Jesus the Word of God is male and was speaking and expressing the will of His Father.

LOL, Oh Boy, J, J, 101G was speaking of singularity, not Gender. he in Genesis 1:27 speak of singularity not Gender, "ONE" person. do you see how easily it is to misunderstand?
"he" and "him" in Genesis 1:27 .... a SINGLE PERSON ..... do it contradicts the "US" and the "OUR" in verse 26? no, so, common sense dictates one need to clearly understand why US and OUR is use in verse 26, plurality. see the contradiction that needs explaining? because the Lord Jesus said "he" a single person in the beginning, (covering Genesis 1:26 & 27 is a single Person) who made man male and female. see the problem now of a three person God who made man male and female.

@MTMattie, @DavidTree, and @Peterlag, please answer also. maybe we can REASON why US and OUR a plurality was used in Genesis 1:26 and in the next verse HE and HIS a singularity is used, especially when the Lord Jesus who made man said "he" a single person, (God), made man male and female in the beginning. (see Matthews 19:4).

will be looking for all responses. thanks in advance,

101G.

 

[Peterlag]

LOL, LOL, Oh boy, ok, one.... John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." and this scripture, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

MT, is this the same "ONE" person who MADE ALL THING? yes or no. your answer will answer the Lord Jesus statement, Matthew 15:7 "Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,"Matthew 15:8 "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me."

your answer MT.
101G.

Again, it's an "it" not a "him" and I think the only way to solve this is we will have to fight it out in hand to hand combat. Where do you live?

 

[101G]

Again, it's an "it" not a "him" and I think the only way to solve this is we will have to fight it out in hand to hand combat. Where do you live?

LOL, LOL, LOL, No, the bible is clear. NO READ, no "it" ..... "him" Listen, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." there is no "IT", now try again..... (smile)

to completely eliminate your "IT" from him, John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

so, try again.

101G.

 

[101G]

@Peterlag
if you're calling the Word a "it" then you're calling God an "it" per Isaiah 44:24. for "he", the LORD made all things

101G

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

AH... so they were pregnant before the I DOs. Yea, that sounds about right to those who cannot discern what was written.

This is the oddest explanation I have ever read.

people can beleive ANYTHING my dear friend . I read what that person wrote and nearly fell .
Truly man is capable of believing anything , SO LONG as the anything agrees with what they desire to believe
is truth . Yes it was quite an odd explanation indeed .

 

[TOTHALORDBEALLGLORY]

Did Jesus say He came to bring (world) peace or division between His people and the Devil’s people.


Let’s try it again with another scripture since you don’t seem to believe what Jesus said.


And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.”
Genesis 3:15

Yes you can bet when i see a reminder This sheep gonna warn against the unholy satanic
that which is of anti christ
false finding common ground interfaith lie .
CAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT . JESUS NEVER ONCE came to BRING PEACE On earth
but it sure seems many are running to men who decieve this people
into believe THAT IS NOW THE AGENDA OF GOD
as they gather with all kinds of darkness to find common ground . THANK YOU DEAR SIR .
Now do you mind if i ask you a question .
Surely you are not sitting in the liberal progressive churches
AND SURELY you are not heeding the nar prophets either . CAUSE THEY ALL BEING DECIEVED and DECEIVED
they are all being . HARRIS aint saving , the popes aint saving , AND TRUMP aint saving SQUAT .
THEY DO THE WILL OF ANTI CHRIST to merge these peoples and denominations and religoins as one .
SURE HOPE you aint sitting under a singel one of them . THEY WOLVES IN WOOL
and hold not thy breath waiting for an apology from me . THEMS WOLVES and WOLVES BE EXPOSED on this sheeps watch .